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louis

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BFR Becomes Starship!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3sO6yFc3vA

Personally I was quite happy with BFR and BFS

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elderflower

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Re: BFR Becomes Starship!

And the only star its ever going to approach is the Sun. It seems like somebody in Spacex developed folie de grandeur.

louis

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Re: BFR Becomes Starship!

It's a naff name - and you give one reason why!

How about MMO:  Mars, Moon and Orbital? Or Transender?

Maybe the marketing boys and girls were called in? Sort of thing they would come up with.

And the only star its ever going to approach is the Sun. It seems like somebody in Spacex developed folie de grandeur.

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SpaceNut

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Re: BFR Becomes Starship!

A ship that gets to orbit and then can not move is not much of a starship...
Yes space x is trying to create a branding for the bfr but its been done....
You have now stumbled into the project name problem that Nasa is having with its gateway and SLS....

Just goes to show how critical that first name is as it can define what will be more than what it can do....

louis

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From: UK

Registered: 2008-03-24

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Re: BFR Becomes Starship!

I think my Transender suggestion is pretty good - it references:

1. Trans of transport

2. Transcending our Earth-bound existence.

3. Sending people somewhere.

4. End as in "goal".

I challenge anyone to do better!

A ship that gets to orbit and then can not move is not much of a starship...
Yes space x is trying to create a branding for the bfr but its been done....
You have now stumbled into the project name problem that Nasa is having with its gateway and SLS....

Just goes to show how critical that first name is as it can define what will be more than what it can do....

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RobertDyck

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Re: BFR Becomes Starship!

Heart of Gold, from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
For some infinitely improbable reason happens to look like a shoe.

SpaceNut

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Re: BFR Becomes Starship!

Starblazer if we were actually going beyond the solar system.

The planetary system would be Visitor, Colonist and Scout much like Columbus....

SpaceNut

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Re: BFR Becomes Starship!

Here is the 3rd topic

tahanson43206

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Re: BFR Becomes Starship!

This topic has been sitting for a while ...

A recent post by Mars_B4_Moon included a link to a warning about consequences if the Starship initiative fails.

Currently (October of 2023) it is my understanding the refurbished Starship and Super Heavy booster are ready to go, but FAA has not issued a launch license.

If a member has a spare minute or two, please try to discover the current status of the license application.  It is my understanding SpaceX has been working on a checklist of requirements for the next launch.  An example is completion and testing of the water deluge system.

The Starship initiative could also fail if it is not permitted to launch, completely aside from technical issues to be solved.

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tahanson43206

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Re: BFR Becomes Starship!

This forum has a surprising number of topics that contain the word "starship" in the title ....

Here is an update on FAA completing it's work ... other reviews are still pending .... the ship itself is ready ...

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/faa- … 18988.html

TechCrunch

FAA completes SpaceX Starship safety review as environmental assessment remains ongoing

Aria Alamalhodaei

Updated Tue, October 31, 2023 at 6:24 PM EDT·2 min read

Image Credits: SpaceX (opens in a new window)

The Federal Aviation Administration has finished a key portion of the launch license review for SpaceX’s Starship, bringing the company one step closer to a second launch.

Regulators said Tuesday that they completed a safety review focused on how a Starship launch could affect public health and property. That review evaluates SpaceX's “safety organization, system safety processes, flight safety analysis, and quantitative risk criteria for launch, reentry, and vehicle disposal,” an FAA spokesperson said in a statement.

That regulators have completed the safety review portion of the license is critical — especially considering that the first Starship orbital flight test in April ended in a spectacular midair explosion of the vehicle.

However, this does not mean that regulators have given SpaceX a green light for launch. The company is still awaiting the results of the environmental assessment, which the FAA is conducting in consultation with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS). That updated biological assessment, being performed under the Endangered Species Act, will examine potential impacts to the local environment.

The FWS and FAA initiated that review on October 19, and they have 135 days to provide an updated assessment. Among their considerations are SpaceX’s new water deluge system, which SpaceX installed after the orbital launch mount was destroyed by the rocket booster’s ultra-powerful engines.

SpaceX’s Starship is the most powerful rocket in human history. The nearly 400-foot-tall Super Heavy booster and upper stage (also called Starship) took off on its maiden test flight on April 20. The launch vehicle did not complete stage separation, which triggered an automated self-destruct command that detonated the rocket over the Gulf of Mexico.

For its part, SpaceX has said that it’s ready to go for a second orbital flight test. In testimony provided to lawmakers earlier this month, SpaceX’s VP of build and flight reliability Bill Gerstenmaier said that Starship has been ready for its next flight test “for more than a month.”

In a tweet last week, SpaceX said it conducted a wet dress rehearsal of the stacked vehicle in preparation for launch.

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SpaceNut

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Re: BFR Becomes Starship!

Here is a bit more FAA wraps up safety review of SpaceX's huge Starship rocket

in the other topic we had information that 66 identified issues needed to be resolved in total but not all would be required to have another go at a flight.