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We should begin speaking in respectful whispers when speaking of AI. 

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Done.

RobertDyck

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Another fly-in job. This time a Metro III aircraft. Out of the Winnipeg airport main terminal building, to Red Lake then on to Sioux Lookout. Then transfer to a flight to Pickle Lake. This will be a 4 day job. The Post Office is changing their counter. I will dismantle the computer equipment, then after the counter guy replaces it with a new one, I will re-install. I just hope my tool bags don't get lost this time. Last te I got my tool bag on the return flight. And once the connecting flight departed before I could check-in. Two other passengers were also stranded. Fun and games, but this is why I get paid so much for these fly-in jobs.

RobertDyck

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We should begin speaking in respectful whispers when speaking of AI. 

Tell M3GAN I'm not a threat to her charge. Just ignore me.

And please don't combine ChatGPT with an avitar in a Boston Dynamics body.

tahanson43206

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For RobertDyck re visit to remote Canada ...

Any chance you could give a talk about the Large Ship at the local school?

Genius is randomly distributed throughout the population.  Your vision of the Large Ship (with all the detail you can provide) may be inspiring to someone.

Even if you don't touch the mind of a genius, your vision can inspire ordinary young people to think on a larger scale.

This would be OI (Original Intelligence) instead of AI.

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RobertDyck

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Tried to upload an image of my boarding pass. 3 hour layover in Sioux Lookout. It's in English and an aboriginal language. I'm sure you've never seen this alphabet before. I've seen it in signs in stores on reservations, but first time on a boarding pass. Looked it up with google; it's called Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics. In this part of the country the aboriginal people speak either Cree or Ojibwe.

kbd512

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RobertDyck,

What do the Cree and Ojibwe people think of their respective languages being turned into "Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics"?

tahanson43206

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For kbd512 re #256

Neat question!  I'm hoping RobertDyck will come back with actual interactions with the folks who are receiving anglo support for the preservation of language.

For RobertDyck ... thanks for sharing this (potentially important) news ....

It is my understanding that Native American languages were recorded to some extent when they were vibrant with energy, but that no written versions were ever created by the original peoples.  That impression could be incorrect, and I am hoping this topic (or a new one dedicated to language) might provide background.

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RobertDyck

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Some context, the bad and the good.
Canadian Encyclopedia: Indigenous Language Revitalization in Canada

The city of Winnipeg has a significant aboriginal population. I was a census worker in 2016 and 2021, went door-to-door to houses that hadn't completed it on time. No penalty, just get me knocking on their door. Only get a fine if they completely refuse. Statistics Canada doesn't want to give fines. Several people of aboriginal descent spoke Cree, several Ojibwe, and several Ojicree which is a mixture of the two. When I flew to the northern Manitoba reservation of Lac Brochet, I found they speek Dene.

SpaceNut

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We do acknowledge the Navaho talkers but the one that comes to mind for the US is Cherokee was one of the first American Indian languages to have a system of writing devised for it—a syllabary, so called because each of the graphic symbols represents a syllable. Cherokee syllabary developed by Sequoyah.  They are part of the Iroquoian family, spoken by the Cherokee (Tsalagi) people originally inhabiting Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama.

https://education.nationalgeographic.or … syllabary/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenou … e_Americas

RobertDyck

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Sponsored advertising on LinkedIn: I have been selected for an MBA from the Australian Institute of Business. They do courses online, so I would study for 2 years from home in Canada. It's accredited so would confer an MBA. They claim that I do qualify for admission. Seriously considering it. I told them that I want to start a business.

tahanson43206

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For RobertDyck re #260

Bravo for Initiative and Best wishes for success!

If the Institute is willing to allow you to share your experience with the Forum, I am confident you would have a following.

It would be free advertising for them, and I am hoping it would help you to feel a bit of the group experience you would have if you were on site.

Plus! If you are given a reading list, and if the Institute does not mind your sharing ** that ** then members here would have the opportunity to stretch their wings a bit.

The only downside I can see is that you would probably pick up an Australian accent by osmosis.

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RobertDyck

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During this year's Mars Society convention, one impromptu discussion in the hallway raised fertility rate. One individual mentioned a trip to Iceland. He saw a woman with a baby carriage for 4 children: 2 side-by-side in front, another 2 behind. He said he never saw anything like that in America. But checking statistics, they don't have a positive population growth. Iceland has the same problem as every developed country in the world: birth rate, what geographers call fertility rate, is below sustainability.

Again you might think the average for a couple must be 2 children just to replace themselves. But due to child deaths and other technical factors it's 2.1. Since families can be quite different today, that's presented as babies per woman. The United States had 1.665 in 2022. Iceland had 1.59 in 2022, the lowest since they started collecting statistics.

Source: Statistics Iceland
US source: Centers for Disease Control