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#1451 2019-07-06 22:32:28

RobertDyck
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'Battle of the Baggage Claim': Trump's 1775 airport claim inspires parodies

Donald Trump’s unusual claim during his Fourth of July speech that the US revolutionary army of 1775 “took over airports” from the British a full 128 years ahead of the Wright brothers’ first flight has spurred a slew of memes.

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#1452 2019-07-18 18:45:57

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Four Democratic congresswomen of color who Mr. Trump told to "go back" to their original countries in a racist tweet one is black, one is Hispanic and two are Muslim. All are American citizens, and three were born here. That did not matters as the crowd erupted into chants of "send her back," at a Trump rally in North Carolina Wednesday after the president renewed his attacks on four Democratic freshman congresswomen. You would think that he would know better. As the chant was “ugly, wrong, & would send chills down the spines of our Founding Fathers. This ugliness must end, or we risk our great union.

President Trump took a lot of heat from his own family over the racist chants at a campaign rally in Greenville, North Carolina. He heard from first lady Melania Trump, his daughter Ivanka and Vice President Mike Pence.

Of course the back walking and reinterpretation of what he said and what he meant is what he has always done. Some in GOP criticize ‘send her back’ chant, but not Trump which is not the way to make America Great.

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#1453 2019-07-19 04:23:53

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"racist tweet"

A tweet thread, actually. In which he said that if they don't like America, they are free to leave. Not exactly racist - people have (rightly) said the same about Piers Morgan when he's been critical of America in the past.


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#1454 2019-07-19 12:12:18

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The ugly part was "go back where you came from".  The racist part is that his targets were all non-white.

That second part is inherently colored by the deliberate mismanagement of events on the southern border.  Atrocities are being committed upon helpless migrants to create the fear reaction that might deter others from coming. 

Question:  how is that use-of-mistreatment-to-inspire-fear not terrorism?

Beyond that,  the deportation raids by ICE are also really intended to inspire fear in all non-citizens.  The proof of that interpretation is that the raids were publicized widely before they started.  Any agency actually wanting to catch real wrongdoers would keep their operation secret until completed.  But there is no terror inspired unless your victims know you will be coming.

Same question:  how is misuse of a police force to inspire fear not terrorism? 

Another question:  is not misuse of government resources and agencies to create terrorism a "high crime and misdemeanor" worthy of impeachment? 

If not,  then please explain to me how these things are in any significant way different from how the SS and Gestapo were used for terrorism purposes 70-80 years ago.

Those who refuse to learn from history really are doomed to more-or-less repeat it.  Trouble is,  they drag the rest of us down with them.

GW

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#1455 2019-07-19 13:13:13

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The quote you cited reminds me of this. I realize it's not perfectly applicable to the situation you describe. But unless you're indigenous, you or your ancestors are immigrants.

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#1456 2019-07-19 16:40:46

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Sort of inline with yours

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He may of actually heard this from the crowd....

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#1457 2019-07-25 21:26:39

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Apparently someone is not believing Trump and is listening to what the CIA , FBI and Mueller has been saying using his free speech artistry to show it.

Trump delivers a Speech standing next to an altered Presidential Seal adorned with a Golfing Russian eagle on presidential seal at a recent Trump rally is raising eyebrows
The phrase "45 es un titere” translates to "45 is a puppet."

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#1458 2019-07-26 07:22:43

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For SpaceNut re #1457 ...

According to this morning's news, the individual responsible for posting the Russian Puppet image on the wall behind the speaker at the Young Republican event has been let go.  Apparently the mistake was "innocent" in the sense that the person was just looking for interesting images, but there is reported to be at least one person who thinks this was a conspiracy.  I think this was simply an example of youthful ignorance, and the perpetrator will (no doubt) have gained useful experience which the person will bring to the next responsibility the person may (?possibly) be given?

(th)

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#1459 2019-07-26 21:22:44

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The 46-year-old graphic designer threw it together after the 2016 presidential election — it was one part joke, one part catharsis.
Blaming google for selection....

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/26/busi … trump.html

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politi … story.html

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#1460 2019-07-31 20:14:11

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So of a crap storm after Trumps Baltimore Elijah Cummings city twitter attack was a rat and rodent-infested mess ...Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson visited Baltimore on Wednesday morning to discuss opportunity zones in the city. His visit comes after the president's recent negative tweets about Baltimore and to discuss what can be done for the area opportunity zones and federal programs that might help Baltimore revitalize its poorest communities.. But do not look at what Trump 'rodent' tweets ring true at Kushner-owned apartments

Davon Jones doesn't have to look far to see the irony in President Donald Trump's tweets that Baltimore is a "rat and rodent infested mess." His apartment owned by the president's son-in-law has been invaded by mice since he moved in a year ago.

"I don't know how they come in," Jones says. "Every time I catch them, they come right back."

Jared Kushner's family real estate firm owns thousands of apartments and townhomes in the Baltimore area, and some have been criticized for the same kind of disrepair and neglect that the president has accused local leaders of failing to address. Residents have complained about mold, bedbugs, leaks and, yes, mice — plenty of mice. And they say management appears in no hurry to fix the problems.

"They don't care," says Dezmond James, who says he has spotted as many as three mice a week since he moved in to the Commons at White Marsh in suburban Middle River four years ago.

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#1461 2019-08-03 09:34:45

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#1462 2019-08-03 22:28:57

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Saw this on Facebook. I posted something similar before, but there was a mass shooting in El Paso today.
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#1463 2019-08-04 01:36:19

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Robert,

Mexico has about double the number of homicides per year as in the US and Brazil has nearly quadruple our homicide rate.  Mexico set a record in 2018 regarding the number of homicide investigations opened by La Policia, at 33,341, as did Brazil at 63,800.  Meanwhile, back in gun-happy America our homicide rates continue to decline and amounted to about 1/3rd of Brazil's homicide by firearm rate- in a country with more guns than people.  Maybe the Mexicans and Brazilians just hack each other apart down there with machetes instead of shooting each other, but even I know that's a bunch of BS.  In regressive ideology, I guess being cut up into little pieces and dangled off a highway overpass is preferable to being shot.  That said, counting was never a strong suit of our regressives.

NPR Opinion: Brazil's High Murder Rate Could Get Even Worse If Gun Laws Are Relaxed by Robert Muggah

Many pro-gun arguments rely on sensationalist anecdotes rather than scientific facts. The truth is that robust firearm laws, when enforced, can help deny access to guns to people who should not have them.

Many people who aren't completely brain dead morons realize that people claiming to be "progressives" or "Democrats" have no intention of ever enforcing the laws, seeing as how they're generally the first to ignore the laws whenever it's politically convenient.  The evidence would be all those bodies you see piling up in regressive Democrat-run cities, both here in America and abroad.

The debate today is not whether or not there ought to be rules to regulate firearms, but rather how comprehensive they should be. This is the minimum to ask of citizens who, ultimately, have the privilege — and not the right — to own firearms.

No, dingbat, firearms ownership is not a privilege in America.  Nice try, though.  If it is, then freedom of speech is also a privilege.  Here in America, our regressives have tried and gloriously failed to regulate both out of existence.

Brazil already registers among the highest per-capita homicide rates in the world and features the largest absolute number of gun deaths on the planet.

No derp, Sir Derps-a-lot.  And yet, they also have some of the most stringent "gun control" laws on the planet.  How did that work out?  Oh right, we already know the answer to that since you told us.  If it's a crime to have a gun, then only the criminals will have guns.  Surprise!  Not.

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#1464 2019-08-04 08:25:01

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Both posts are reposted in our gun topic... http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=8085

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#1465 2019-08-09 19:08:31

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This has long been rumorred that Jeffrey Epstein and his close associate ordered a teenage girl to have sex with several high-powered men, including former New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson and former Maine Sen. George Mitchell, according to a deposition from the girl released Friday.
Such was also said to have been with Trump a simular situation....

update:
Jeffrey Epstein is dead. But the criminal investigation that led to the sex-trafficking charges against him is not.
Conway defends Trump retweeting a baseless Epstein conspiracy theory, saying he wants 'everything to be investigated' Why the Jeffrey Epstein Investigation Is Not Over...Tweet storm that the clintons conspiracy is behind this...

The stories of suicide are not adding up as personal ties of Attorney General William Barr and alleged sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein, who reportedly committed suicide in jail.

NYT columnist: Epstein claimed to have damaging information on powerful people

Epstein was awaiting trial on allegations that he trafficked dozens of minors for sex. He previously accepted a plea deal in 2008 over similar accusations of soliciting sex from underage girls that landed him on the sex offender registry.

FBI agents swarm Jeffrey Epstein's private Caribbean island
The search was directed by the Epstein task force led by the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York

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#1466 2019-08-17 19:24:34

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Try to bolster claims of slumping Union Workers in Pennsylvania Told to Attend Trump Rally or Lose Pay

The company didn’t mandate that workers attended Trump’s event. They just made it clear that workers would not be paid if they did not attend Donald Trump’s illegal taxpayer-funded rally. Pennsylvania union leaders reveal Shell employees who skipped Trump rally lost hundreds in income.

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2019/8/1 … -in-income

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#1467 2019-08-18 21:40:03

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I would start looking at the Clintons again, since Epstein had a picture of Bill Clinton in his office.

Yes, I'm quite certain William Barr had many personal ties to Jeffrey Epstein, which is why he's launching an investigation into finding out how it is that the man died in custody.  When you have personal ties into someone who died that you're trying to hide, launching an investigation into that person to deflect attention away from yourself works quite well.  If you actually believe that, then ask Hillary Clinton / James Comey / Andrew McCabe how well that went for the Obama administration.

The regressive Democrat-run media claims are getting nuttier by the day.  Pretty soon, nobody is going to be able to keep all of their lies straight.  I know I can't, which is why I quit watching.

Cohen claimed to have damaging information on President Trump, too.  He's now in federal prison.  If he had anything at all, we'd already know about it.

I guess the unions are supporting President Trump now after wasting so much time and effort backing the Democrats.  I guess they got tired of having Democrats make promises of economic prosperity for votes and then fail to deliver anything at all.  The Republicans used to whine about this incessantly and the Democrats ignored them, so it's hilarious that the shoe is now on the other foot.

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#1468 Yesterday 21:19:05

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8 Years of Trump Tax Returns Are Subpoenaed by Manhattan D.A.

Whistleblower Snowden: I'd love to be granted asylum in France

Of course the Whistle-blower Edward Snowden, living in Russia since leaking a trove of classified documents showing the scope of post-9/11 U.S. government surveillance is not seen as a whistle blower at all...more like a traiter....

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