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#1 2007-10-30 11:46:25

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Re: Artificial Magnetosphere

I was reading a Focus magazine artical on the Earths magnetic field and they used the analogy of a bar magnet. Then it occured to me. If the Earths magnetic field is like that it would be possible to place one (or two connected by a rod,if it's needed) in the middle of the craft. The magnetic field produced would keep out the harmful radiation. Would it need to be an electromagnet or could it just be permanent?


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#2 2007-10-30 12:52:07

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Re: Artificial Magnetosphere

it would mostlikely need to be electromagnetic so that it could be strong enough to repel.

your best bet is having the magnets arround the exterior surface of the craft then powering them outwards so it doesn't disturb any of the inner electronics...

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#3 2007-10-30 13:00:26

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Re: Artificial Magnetosphere

Here's an interesting thought. Due to the artificial magnetosphere charged particles will be directed towards the front and back of the ship (possible fuel?), releasing energy in the form of light.

If it was powerful enough you wouldn't need an airtight hull (the magnetosphere would keep the atmosphere in) allowing the possibility of custom built planets.


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#4 2007-10-30 13:06:20

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Re: Artificial Magnetosphere

Here's an interesting thought. Due to the artificial magnetosphere charged particles will be directed towards the front and back of the ship (possible fuel?), releasing energy in the form of light.

If it was powerful enough you wouldn't need an airtight hull (the magnetosphere would keep the atmosphere in) allowing the possibility of custom built planets.

thats basicly the idea with earth, but the ammount of power required to do something like that would have to be literally almost insane... think something the size of the death star or perhaps the moon...

heck look at the moon, it doesn't have an atmosphere, even mars... has hardly an atmosphere... if you had a strong enough magnetosphere that would basicly either make it a planet or a moon... and you would need to be careful to not go close enough to planets to distort their orbit...

I understand what you mean by what your talking about but i dont know if it would retain such things as air or particles like that... I would immagine a forcefield like that could get that strong, but it will still be a while yet...

not to mention we need to find out yet still if light is a particle or not... by figuring that out we can do lots with that info.

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#5 2007-10-30 13:13:01

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not to mention we need to find out yet still if light is a particle or not

What effect would that have?

If the magnetic feild was strong enough it could heat up and vaporise meteoroids about to hit it (possibly).


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#6 2007-10-30 13:28:48

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Re: Artificial Magnetosphere

not to mention we need to find out yet still if light is a particle or not

What effect would that have?

If the magnetic feild was strong enough it could heat up and vaporise meteoroids about to hit it (possibly).

as far as light being a particle, so that you could use that to move objects/reflect them (by manipulating them)

and if you could heat it up with out using TONS of power sure i dont see why not....

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#7 2007-10-30 13:31:40

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Redirecting excess heat from the engines that would otherwise go to waste?


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#8 2007-10-30 13:33:47

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Redirecting excess heat from the engines that would otherwise go to waste?

assuming the engines your using produces heat...

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#9 2007-10-30 14:38:37

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Re: Artificial Magnetosphere

Conventional, Nuclear (Fusion or Fission, doesn't matter), Matter/Antimatter, all produce excess heat. It's just spreading it out around the ship to produce a sheild.

Has anyone considered using the excess heat to generate power?


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#10 2007-10-30 14:39:55

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Re: Artificial Magnetosphere

Conventional, Nuclear (Fusion or Fission, doesn't matter), Matter/Antimatter, all produce excess heat. It's just spreading it out around the ship to produce a sheild.

Has anyone considered using the excess heat to generate power?

its hard to get it to be specific to producing power... if anything it would be able to help with life support more than anything...

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