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#1 2007-01-24 22:20:38

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Re: Will India be the third Player a lunar landing 2020AD?

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID … 47F15DDDFE
India's capsule makes unmanned orbit, so will it be a three dog fight for lunar supremacy as the superpowers war over Space?

Or would you like to come out on the side of the Space Commonwealth? and chance being one of the ten million lunar colonists?

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#2 2007-02-03 12:40:53

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Re: Will India be the third Player a lunar landing 2020AD?

They have a nice Moon goal coming up but a lot of it was been supported with NASA tech that was outsourced to India. Their first man in space was a cosmonaut who flew with the Soyuz. They have gained much experience since then and gone far but they still have much to do because one of their last launches was a total failure
They do have an x-43A type program in operation, but I suspect that's so they can continue their military nuclear showdown with Pakistan.
http://www.newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2137
I think India has a lot of good things going for them but don't think their program is much when compared to Russia's space exploration or other space agency groups like NASA.

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#3 2007-02-03 13:57:08

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Re: Will India be the third Player a lunar landing 2020AD?

India is way way behind China, and China is far behind Russia and in turn Russia is still stuck using 1960s Soyuz technology. Whereas the US is at least a decade ahead of Russia with its 1970s STS technology. Only the US has a serious new human space program.

The US robotic program is by far the most advanced, with only ESA anywhere near in a few areas. Japan is trailing behind ESA. Not quite sure where to put Canada wink


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#4 2007-02-03 16:26:06

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Re: Will India be the third Player a lunar landing 2020AD?

Im actually more of the opinion that India will become a major player in Space. As India benefits from globalisation it has more and more resources to put towards the technologies that lead to space. Another point is that India is basically more stable both politically and on a financial basis and is willing to work with the USA and other players.

India certainly has the vision and an indigenous program. It has the engineers and it has a lot lower costs. It has the facilities to make the rockets and it also has of course a good location to do launch from.

So yes India can do it.


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#5 2007-02-07 16:12:23

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Re: Will India be the third Player a lunar landing 2020AD?

I agree with cIclops

The only superpower that could have matched the US were the Soviets and we saw this through their political and social union, the Soviet military might - thousands of tanks or APCs and might aircraft like the Mig-29 and their feats such as first man in space, first spacewalk, first woman in space and so on.

I think Europe has the potential one day have the potential to rival the USA, for example if you were to compare the strength of each European nation to the strenght of US states like Texas or California the Europeans would look equally as strong. The French have a vivrant industry in computing, aerospace and rocketry, the British have made some wonderful discoveries in radio astronomy and had amazing scientists and the Germans have some great research labs but today Europe it is too divided and does not speak with one political voice like the USA. This is why the Europeans will never have a strong policy that will put people on the Moon or Mars.

Japan once looked like it could do something big but its economy has stagnated over the past decade and it is now being eclipsed by a rising China

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#6 2007-02-07 22:04:01

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Re: Will India be the third Player a lunar landing 2020AD?

There are many many different paths to being a major player in space and the road taken by the Russians, Americans and Chinese might not be the same for the Indians or Europeans, but can still become a major force in the human development into space.

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#7 2007-02-21 07:51:03

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Re: Will India be the third Player a lunar landing 2020AD?

Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) is preparing to send a man into space to orbit around the earth ahead of its more ambitious plans of moon and mars missions in future. "This is a step in the direction of future plans of ISRO to send man to the planetary targets like moon and mars," a top ISRO scientist told journalists last week.

http://www.spacedaily.com/

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#8 2007-02-21 08:47:23

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Re: Will India be the third Player a lunar landing 2020AD?


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#9 2007-02-28 10:10:47

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Re: Will India be the third Player a lunar landing 2020AD?

India Planning New Institute To Train Space Cadets

Spacedaily SPACE TRAVEL

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#10 2007-03-13 00:33:41

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Re: Will India be the third Player a lunar landing 2020AD?

Thanks for fixing it

wink

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#13 2007-04-26 11:15:17

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Re: Will India be the third Player a lunar landing 2020AD?

India plans Mars mission in 2012

Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) chairman G Madhavan Nair told HT: "Mars is emerging on our horizon.

and in other news

Riots in India After Gere Kisses Shilpa Shetty
http://www.indiawest.com/view.php?subac … m=&ucat=11
Angry crowds in several Indian cities burned effigies of Richard Gere April 16 after he swept popular Bollywood actress Shilpa Shetty into his arms and kissed her several times during an AIDS awareness event.

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#14 2022-08-07 08:54:14

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Re: Will India be the third Player a lunar landing 2020AD?

2020 has arrived and gone and nobody has returned to the Moon, NASA, Space-X, Russia and China have human access to space.

There are satellites and Rovers on Mars but human spaceflight is still in LEO

ISRO still has work

New Indian rocket fails to put satellites in right orbit in debut launch
https://www.space.com/india-sslv-rocket-first-launch

India's new Small Satellite Launch Vehicle deployed its two payload in the wrong orbit. They are "no longer usable."

It does seems the “data wobble” at the tail end of 3rd stage burn was a sensor (IMU?) failure, maybe mechanical/RF interference (?) caused. The VTM should have been functioning normally to compensate for shortfalls but this caused the program to tell it to shutdown immediately.
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/stat … 5315888128

Failure?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEfbBPADmcc

Sir it seems that the third stage was underperforming...was this the reason of the extended duration of SS-3 ? Also as far as I can guess VTM was not ignited for scheduled duration.
https://twitter.com/UtpalGautam5/status … 6245043200

ISRO Launched Maiden SSLV, suffers with upper stage and dataloss issues
The SSLVD1 rocket launched with 2 satellites and could not place in desired orbits.
https://twitter.com/nkknspace/status/15 … 5014706176

ISRO reports the SSLV-D1 reached a 76 x 356 km orbit. There would have been 3 or 4 objects in this orbit: EOS-02, AzaadiSAT, the VTM upper stage, and possibly the third stage. Most likely they reentered at first perigee on the track shown here
https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1 … 3539175426

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