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That is Griffins position. Cowing and his band of jerks are trying to kill that in favor of the lousy EELV nonsense.
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Bumping an old thread. Where is NASA's manned architecture now?
Since this thread was made flying on Mars, to scout on Mars by air has become a thing.
Heavy Lift has also arrived from NASA using the Space Launch System or SLS an American super heavy-lift expendable launch, by Aerojet Rocketdyne, Northrop Grumman, Boeing and United Launch Alliance, Musk and Space-X might come soon and the Chinese might also arrive.
Mars helicopter Ingenuity soars between Red Planet airfields on 46th flight
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/mar … 38840.html
4 flights in 10 days!
https://twitter.com/NASAJPL/status/1630989945186979840
Over the weekend, the MarsHelicopter completed Flight 46. Ingenuity traveled 1,461 ft or 445.3 m across the Martian surface for 135.86 seconds at a max. altitude of 40 ft (12 m).
First will be looking at samples back on Earth before any 'Architecture' or building is made will the the goal of achieving a sample return, it seems China may get there first for bragging rights but the NASA / European mission is more complex and will achieve more science.
China's two plans to return Mars samples, both require two launches of Long March 5 in 2028 and will return in July of 2031.
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/statu … 7961435137
The return orbiter will launch in November of 2028 in both cases. The lande r/ ascender will launch in Dec or May.
This is from a speech of Sun Zezhou
Some critics want an O'Neill spinnig station instead
LOFTID is an EDL demonstrator for large Mars surface payloads
https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/15 … 0229395456
Economics after landing?
https://twitter.com/DrPhiltill/status/1 … 8066247682
'when building a civilization on Mars, it is wrong to think that we should ship goods to/from to Mars only when the planets are aligned once every two years. That trajectory is the optimum to a *different* economic problem than starting a city on Mars.'
Heavy Lift
Teams at NASAMichoud “flipped” the engine section for the first crewed #Artemis mission from a vertical to a horizontal position in preparation for final integration to the SLS core stage.
https://twitter.com/NASA_SLS/status/1625273660662480896
For now NASA is look at Architecture on the Moon not Mars.
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on update on where manned Mars missions may go
Politics changed and the Group of Eight (G8) was an inter-governmental political forum it had formed from incorporating Russia into the Group of Seven, or G7, and returned to its previous name after Russia was expelled in 2014, there has also been 'Brics' and the 2023 G20 New Delhi summit was the eighteenth meeting of G20 Group of Twenty.
Boeing Starliner spacecraft issues delay docking at ISS with NASA astronauts
https://www.foxweather.com/earth-space/ … astronauts
Elon Musk’s giant Starship rocket rumbles into space once more
https://www.wprl.org/npr-news/2024-06-0 … -once-more
NASA Inspector Alarmed by Extensive Damage to Heatshield of Astronaut Moon Vehicle
https://futurism.com/nasa-inspector-ala … hield-moon
NASA places its first order for Lunar Gateway components
https://bgr.com/science/nasa-gateway-moon-2024-maxar/
Russia now facing sanctions after its invasion will not be invited to the Moon by USA, Canada, Europe or Japan.
Leveraging Russia's frozen assets for Ukraine: what are the EU and G7 plans
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ho … 024-06-06/
The Group of Seven countries and the European Union are considering how to use profits generated by Russian assets
Former astronaut says it’s “extremely important” to study artificial gravity
https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/07/f … l-gravity/
"We have nothing in between one and zero."
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