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#1 2003-06-19 09:17:45

Palomar
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Re: Nozomi


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

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#2 2003-06-19 20:45:54

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Re: Nozomi

Damn, that poor probe has been through hell.  Hope appears to be hopeless.  sad


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#3 2003-09-16 04:13:51

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Re: Nozomi

There has been too little discussion on NOZOMI.It is one of the four spacecrafts expecting to land on mars  early 2004.It is persevering also.It started as early as 1998 and it has proven the prverb failures are pillars of success.Since it is a Japanese stuff,I donot understand why no Japanese takes part in any discussion anywhere.Nozomi means hope.Do men of Japan hope?

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#4 2003-09-16 05:36:31

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Re: Nozomi

There has been too little discussion on NOZOMI.It is one of the four spacecrafts expecting to land on mars  early 2004.It is persevering also.It started as early as 1998 and it has proven the prverb failures are pillars of success.Since it is a Japanese stuff,I donot understand why no Japanese takes part in any discussion anywhere.Nozomi means hope.Do men of Japan hope?

*Hi alokmohan; welcome to New Mars.  I see you're from India.  smile

I don't believe we've had any people from Japan interacting here before; if so, it was very briefly and a long time ago, and I don't remember.

I've been keeping a lookout for further articles concerning Nozomi, without success.  If you could tell us more, I'd be interested. 

Every mission is an important mission.  I hope for the success of Nozomi.

--Cindy


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

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#5 2003-09-24 05:04:10

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Re: Nozomi

Strange Japan govt is not keen on it!

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#6 2003-11-21 18:43:13

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Re: Nozomi

Japan admits its Mars probe is failing

After months of silence and a week of hopeful half-truths, Japanese space officials have finally confirmed that their Mars-bound Nozomi probe is teetering on the brink of failure in its five-year quest to explore the Red Planet.

DURING THIS VOYAGE, Nozomi became the first space vehicle to make an Earth-Mars-Earth round trip after navigation and power problems thwarted mission managers’ original plans. Ingenious flight planning and fine-tuned space navigation gave the probe an unprecedented second chance to reach Mars. But that space odyssey now appears doomed.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/996466.asp?0cv=CB20]source

(from slashdot): http://www.msnbc.com/news....cv=CB20

http://www.msnbc.com/news/996466.asp?0cv=CB20


Some useful links while MER are active. [url=http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html]Offical site[/url] [url=http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Web.html]NASA TV[/url] [url=http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/]JPL MER2004[/url] [url=http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/statustextonly.html]Text feed[/url]
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#7 2003-11-22 07:25:18

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Re: Nozomi

Japan admits its Mars probe is failing

After months of silence and a week of hopeful half-truths, Japanese space officials have finally confirmed that their Mars-bound Nozomi probe is teetering on the brink of failure in its five-year quest to explore the Red Planet.

DURING THIS VOYAGE, Nozomi became the first space vehicle to make an Earth-Mars-Earth round trip after navigation and power problems thwarted mission managers’ original plans. Ingenious flight planning and fine-tuned space navigation gave the probe an unprecedented second chance to reach Mars. But that space odyssey now appears doomed.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/996466.asp?0cv=CB20]source
(from slashdot): http://www.msnbc.com/news.......cv=CB20
http://www.msnbc.com/news/996466.asp?0cv=CB20

*Hey Josh, thanks for the update.  This isn't surprising.  I saw a brief article about Nozomi in "Astronomy" magazine.  Failure for the little probe was inevitable, it seems, considering its history since launch.

Apparently the Japanese controllers were attempting to "tweak" it, but to no avail.

This is sad.  The loss of any exploration device is.  Hopefully Japan's next venture in this regard will be successful.

--Cindy


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

--John Sladek (The New Apocrypha)

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#8 2003-11-22 13:33:50

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Re: Nozomi

Well if it makes it, it'll be a nice lil' bugger of a surving satellite, and if it crashes, well congrats to the Japense for have started 'terraforming' at a minimal level.
*Hopes if Nozomi does crash and contains bacteria, they'll be photo... whatever its called so the Red Planet can get a lil' O2 in the atmosphere*


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#9 2003-11-22 13:50:55

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Re: Nozomi

Sorry to know this, & I hope it can be saved, somehow

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#10 2003-11-25 02:30:59

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Re: Nozomi

Well if it makes it, it'll be a nice lil' bugger of a surving satellite, and if it crashes, well congrats to the Japense for have started 'terraforming' at a minimal level.
*Hopes if Nozomi does crash and contains bacteria, they'll be photo... whatever its called so the Red Planet can get a lil' O2 in the atmosphere*

You're not serious I hope.

Contaminate the planet before we've had a chance to properly find out if there really is any indigenous life there?

Time running out for Mars mission


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#11 2003-12-02 12:03:58

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Re: Nozomi

More bad news about Nozomi

*This article is dated December 1.

"Engineers have just one more week to repair a damaged electrical system needed to warm fuel for Nozomi's thrusters. If the thrusters aren't fired, Nozomi will not be in position to go into orbit around Mars.

'We believe what the mission team can do is not to give up, but to do the best until the very last moment,' the newly formed Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency said in an update posted on its website last week."

The very best of luck to them, of course!!  Geez, how terrible.  [Japan also recently had a setback in its satellite program]

I think the article's author is a bit pessimistic in the last paragraph, regarding past Mars missions; we've had outstanding successes as well.  Must be one of those "the glass is half-empty" types.

--Cindy


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

--John Sladek (The New Apocrypha)

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#12 2003-12-07 04:16:36

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Re: Nozomi

Nozom's deadline to start the engine has passed. Eerily quiet on the Jaxa site. So we can assume mission-not-accomplished?

Sad news, if true, but of course quite predictable.

Sigh. Japan's space industry once again facing a big setback.

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#13 2003-12-09 12:43:33

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Re: Nozomi

Nozom's deadline to start the engine has passed. Eerily quiet on the Jaxa site. So we can assume mission-not-accomplished?

Sad news, if true, but of course quite predictable.

Sigh. Japan's space industry once again facing a big setback.

Japan Abandons Troubled Mission to Mars

*Too bad it didn't work out somehow.

No great loss without some small gain, however:

"Moriuma said scientists will continue to modify Nozomi to carry out alternative missions, including monitoring solar activity, as it carves a wide path round the solar system."

I'm surprised it even has that capacity.

--Cindy


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

--John Sladek (The New Apocrypha)

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#14 2003-12-09 13:08:03

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Re: Nozomi

sad


Some useful links while MER are active. [url=http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html]Offical site[/url] [url=http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Web.html]NASA TV[/url] [url=http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/]JPL MER2004[/url] [url=http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/statustextonly.html]Text feed[/url]
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#15 2003-12-09 14:07:12

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Re: Nozomi

Hope the other probes/landers make it, but we have to keep in mind there's only been a 30% chance of success, to date, IIRC, so... At least *one* should do ok.

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#16 2003-12-09 15:40:29

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Re: Nozomi

Well,  I think Kudos are in order for the Japanese Space Agency.  Nozomi, while dubbed a failure, I believe it is miracle that they have gone this fair, with the failures.  I hope they take it all in Stride and put up something new soon.  The probe has had such bad luck, and they have done so well to get this far.


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#17 2003-12-10 00:09:09

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Re: Nozomi

We have a Toyota and the damned thing's indestructible!
    I guess making Mars probes is a bit harder than making good cars.
                                             sad


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#18 2003-12-10 10:01:32

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Re: Nozomi

Well, the probe went MORE THEN 300,000 MILES..  maybe the timing chain broke..  thats always the killer for Toyota pickups..   tongue

Well,  I think the Japanese will be able to make a comeback,  unless the have lost Hope.   pardon the pun..


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#19 2006-02-08 14:33:58

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Re: Nozomi

some websites on this lost mission

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nozomi
http://www.planetary.org/mars/nozomi.html

formerly known as PLANET-B

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#20 2007-06-14 23:44:58

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Re: Nozomi

The new Moon mission


The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has announced the nickname for the lunar explorer SELENE, which was selected from submissions sent in by the general public: "KAGUYA." The name is taken, appropriately, from the name of a moon princess in a folktale.
http://www.space.com/imageoftheday/imag … 70607.html
The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) plans to launch SELENE (SELenological and ENgineering Explorer) on-board a H-IIA Launch Vehicle from Tanegashima Space Center in 2007. The major objectives of the SELENE mission are to obtain scientific data of the lunar origin and evolution, and to develop the technology for future lunar exploration. SELENE consists of a main orbiting satellite located at about 100km altitude, and two small satellites (Relay Satellite and VRAD Satellite) in polar orbit. The orbiters will carry instruments for scientific investigation of the Moon, on the Moon, and from the Moon.


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#21 2007-06-15 00:30:02

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SELENE is not Nozomi!


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#22 2007-06-15 02:17:42

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I know that
but still couldn't find a more appropriate place to post

If you want to make a new thread then go ahead


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