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#1 2022-09-27 11:12:28

Mars_B4_Moon
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Mars Defence Protectorate, Planetary Defense Treaty?

Who would defend Mars or is a future Mars expected to protect itself? NASA has deliberately crashed the DART spacecraft into an asteroid in a planetary protection test.

Some have visions of the future what Mars will be in 2050 or year 2122 or 2500 or the Year 3,000 and who would protect and patrol the entire Solar system. There was discussion of making Mars a central hub, a supply route from Comets Asteroids low tech manufactured items. Maybe these items could be made by nuke powered AI machines and then shot into space from their surface and hard product going to Mars. Ballistic Delivery of Hardened Supply to Mars, setting up multiple routes from Callisto, Earth's Moon, the Jupiter Trojan Asteroids  scheduled to arrive at very precise location. Would the people of Mars request that NASA or the Chinese or the US SpaceForce protect them? In NASA's and Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory (APL) current mission the impact has created a very large flash observable even from Earth, Observations will confirm if it has changed the course of the Asteroid in an Epic Collision between DART Probe and Asteroid Dimorphos, a double asteroid binary system. The Asteroid is classified as a potentially hazardous asteroid and near-Earth object, Mars has even less atmosphere to protect itself from impacts but it does have some protection with atmosphere unlike the Moon, Mars is also much closer to the main body of the Asteroid belt located roughly between the orbits of the planets Jupiter and Mars. The total mass of the asteroid belt is about 4% that of the Moon, the belt is estimated to contain between 1.1 and 1.9 million asteroids larger than 1 kilometer (0.6 miles) in diameter.

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#2 2023-11-09 08:20:19

tahanson43206
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Re: Mars Defence Protectorate, Planetary Defense Treaty?

For Mars_B4_Moon re this topic ....

In light of PhotonByte's proposal to drop an asteroid or a comet on Mars, this topic of yours might provide a meeting place for members who are interested in how to deal with construction proposals that involve crashing objects into Mars. 

In light of Earth people's concerns about unwanted asteroids dropping onto the planet, I can well imagine that future Mars residents would have reason to be worried about similar unplanned visits by space objects.

It would be a small stretch from unplanned visits by space objects, to "planned" ones.

By the time an object is headed to Mars, there will likely be numerous people on the planet, and several major Earth powers with bases on the planet, and military capabilities in the vicinity.

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#3 2023-11-09 10:43:39

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Re: Mars Defence Protectorate, Planetary Defense Treaty?

The good side is we could "Eat" the potential impactors. 

The bad side is humans love to kill each other.  Too bad.

Done


Done.

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#4 2023-12-08 13:27:29

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Re: Mars Defence Protectorate, Planetary Defense Treaty?

'Space Rescue Service' needed for coming space tourism era, report argues - 'The more people who fly in space, the higher the likelihood of something going wrong.'

https://www.space.com/rand-space-rescue … urist-help

Rescuers on Earth can reach a lot of rugged environments: stranded boaters in the ocean, folks injured while skiing in the mountains, and victims of plane crashes in rural areas.

    But there's currently no emergency-rescue system for space — and there might be a way to change that. The nonprofit Rand Corp. suggests that a Space Rescue Service, if funded and given a strong enough mandate, could be deployed to help astronauts or tourists stuck in low Earth orbit — or even at the moon.

    The idea was suggested in a November 2023 report, "Select Space Concepts for the New Space Era." To be sure, there are lots of questions that need to be answered before a Space Rescue Service can get up and running: how this fits in with existing United Nations treaties concerning space exploration, who would be responsible, who would fund it and what technologies might be needed, for example.

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#5 2023-12-08 15:54:17

RobertDyck
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Re: Mars Defence Protectorate, Planetary Defense Treaty?

Short answer: Mars must defend itself.

I posted a thread about a government for Mars. My idea was a federal government with jurisdiction over the entire planet, and cities. Nothing in between. Minimal federal government, basically city states like ancient Greece. But federal government has the only military. Defence against attacks from Earth or asteroids would be the federal military.

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