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#351 2023-10-09 09:41:20

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#352 2023-10-10 14:08:31

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Re: Email Outreach Campaign 2022-2023

Four emails were sent today and four arrived.

This happened with a long break between two sets of two.

I'm not sure what to make of that.

It is possible to increase the pause between sends.

The upper limit is the time out setting for NewMars logins ... I don't know what that setting is, but it is not TOO long, because I often hit it while distracted with a post intended but not submitted.

The limit might be as much as 30 minutes, but that's just a guess.

I might try a ten minute pause tomorrow, just to see if that makes a difference.

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#353 2023-10-11 07:26:09

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Re: Email Outreach Campaign 2022-2023

A complication has shown up.  The email provider I use apparently has a feature that looks for bulk email, and it has flagged the test messages from NewMarsMember as bulk.  It is possible that some of the non-delivered messages were blocked by that algorithm.

Today's test will run for 10 sends, but the time separation will be increased from five minutes to ten minutes.

Update ... the first two sends completed, but a halt occurred. I'll restart with new goal of 8.

That run also failed after two sends. The time pause of 10 minutes is too long for FluxBB, apparently.

I completed the last 6 sends with the previously successful interval of five minutes.

Update for Web Automation Report for 10-11-2023 at 10:44:49
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393

All 10 emails arrived today. Four were sent with 10 minute delay, and 6 were sent with five minute delay. All arrived.

Tomorrow I'm planning to try 8 minute delay.  10 minutes is too long.

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#354 2023-10-12 11:05:37

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Re: Email Outreach Campaign 2022-2023

Today's test run set the pause interval at 8 minutes, and it completed without incident.

Update for Web Automation Report for 10-12-2023 at 11:07:33
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393

I'll report on results a bit later today.

All ten emails arrived today.  I'll restart the Email Outreach.  If someone at Dreamhost made a change, thank you!

I'll stay with the 8 minute wait between sends. 

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#355 2023-10-13 07:34:39

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Re: Email Outreach Campaign 2022-2023

Today's run is a test, but it is with only four sends, and Steve Stewart is the selected volunteer to receive the message.

I'm looking for feedback that the email service is working well enough to resume the Email Outreach campaign.

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#356 2023-10-13 07:58:03

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Re: Email Outreach Campaign 2022-2023

Only two of the planned four sends went out:

Update for Web Automation Report for 10-13-2023 at 09:10:20
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=432265
http://newmars.com/forums/misc.php?email=437393

The program hit a snag on the third send, after waiting eight minutes.  The account was still logged in.

I'll settle for two sends today, and try four again tomorrow.

Steve Stewart wrote to say he'd received today's test send!  Thanks Steve!

I'll take a chance and resume the Email Outreach campaign tomorrow. It has been on hiatus since the web site outage in July.

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#357 2023-10-14 13:27:26

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Re: Email Outreach Campaign 2022-2023

The last send before the web site outage was sent July 11, 2023.  Two attempts were made in August.

Today's candiate is "internet"

"internet" joined in 2004, so may be a member of the First Wave ...

Yup! First Wave .... >>> The first and only post was a reply to Palomar.  While the post was friendly enough, I am not inspired to reach out to this person.

Let's look further ....

The next candidate is InternationalSpaceAgency ... Registered in 2019

We have an IP address to investigate ....

The IP address is (apparently) still active ... It is located in Omaha, Nebraska and the ISP name is "Do Space"

There is an active web site still responding ... there is a page showing 2003 as the date of incorporation in New York as a non-profit.

If someone wants to investigate further, please report what you find here.

For today, we've reviewed two candidates and I am not inspired to contact either.

Any member can send email to any other member.

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#358 2023-10-16 06:52:13

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Re: Email Outreach Campaign 2022-2023

Today's candidate is Indiana

Indiana registered in 2006 in the Second Wave

The email address is with an ISP I don't recognize.

So much for that! The ISP does not exist today, assuming it did exist in 2006.

Pass!

***
The next candidate is immortalem

immortalem registered in 2005 and the ISP is one I recognize and know still exists. Second Wave

Registered: 2005-07-27 (0.0.0.0)
Last post: 2005-08-01 11:42:45
Last visit: 2005-11-07 15:34:58

immortalem wrote:

My question:

What do you know?


Seems like that gives us the most bang for our interstellar buck.

 

I agree.  That is a great question to ask them.

Index» Intelligent Alien Life» One question, what would it be? - Contact with an ET, what would you ask?

This topic was quite successful.  It went on for 5 pages, and reached #116: "Is Elvis with you"

I guess that one was too much, and the topic stopped.

Never-the-less, I'll re-open the Email Outreach Campaign with a send to immortalem.

This will be a traditional send package, with one copy to SpaceNut and two to me.  I'll use the new timing of 8 minutes.

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#359 2023-10-17 07:21:42

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Re: Email Outreach Campaign 2022-2023

Today's candidate is iminfornow

Registration date is 2020, just before SpaceNut cut off the spammers.

We have an IP address to look up ... The address is registered in the Netherlands

Registered: 2020-10-30 (77.175.162.64)
Last post: 2020-10-31 00:45:02
Last visit: 2020-10-31 00:48:07

OK ... Let's look at the one and only post...

Topic:  Martian Politics and Economy » Government of Mars to start on earth

iminfornow wrote:

The Starlink terms of service:
"For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement."

What do you think about it? I would like a free planet, no Earth-based government authority and self-governing principles. At face value this seems to align with my philosophy.
<snip>

The post was interesting and appropriate to the topic ...

Will send ...

Update later: Both test messages arrived today ... SpaceNut, you should have received a copy as well.

For SpaceNut ... rather than take up a post with a new message, please just update ** this ** post if you received your copy.

You ** are ** Senior Administrator, and can update any post in the database.

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#360 2023-10-18 11:50:18

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Re: Email Outreach Campaign 2022-2023

Today's candidate is another member of the First Wave ...

Icy Member ID is 524

Registered: 2003-09-10 (0.0.0.0)
Last post: 2003-09-10 12:57:36
Last visit: 1969-12-31 20:00:00

The From field says "Iceland"

Icy wrote:

I have a question  smile If a group of humans were going to Mars and they intend to stay there for a period of time, e.g. doing research. What type of equipment would they need? Where can I find reliable information about this kind of equipment e.g. air locks.
Thanks.

Byron from Florida recommended Zubrin's "The Case for Mars"

Will send

Update later ... The two test messages sent to the NewMarsMember email arrived.

SpaceNut ... if you receive your copy, and would care to report receipt, please update this post, rather than create a new one.

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#361 2023-10-19 07:33:55

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Re: Email Outreach Campaign 2022-2023

Our candidate for today is Icom_Fan

Icom_Fan is another First Wave ... Member ID 635

Registered: 2004-01-15 (0.0.0.0)
Last post: 2004-01-15 06:24:45
Last visit: 1969-12-31 20:00:00

Topic: Index» Terraformation» Atmospheric Degeneration

Icom_Fan wrote:

If you want Mars to retain an atmosphere, all that you need to do is increase the mass of Mars.  Luckily there is a handy source of raw materials next door in the form of the Asteroid Belts.  Also, if you feel the need for more water and organics, you could use cometary cores from the outer solar system.  The side benefit is that you reduce the a number of objects that could attain an Earth-crossing orbit.

Icom_Fan's post appears to have stimulated an ongoing discussion of how to terraform Mars, between JoeDaWold and Shaun Barrett.

The topic itself lasted all the way to #27, which was posted in April of 2004. 

The post was reasonable.

I'll send SpaceNut's email.

Update later: Both test emails arrived.

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#362 2023-10-19 21:20:26

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Re: Email Outreach Campaign 2022-2023

Our candidate for Friday 2023/10/20 is IceCrystal23

The email address is an educational institution ... I am doubtful the email address is still working.

The member ID is 243 ... ** way ** before RobertDyck ... Definitely First Wave ...

Registered: 2002-07-15 (0.0.0.0)
Last post: 2002-07-15 22:28:28
Last visit: 1969-12-31 20:00:00

Topic: Human missions » Reasons to send humans to Mars - help me

At the time, IceCrystal23 was a high school student.

IceCrystal23 wrote:

I found an article on BBC News about how Russia plans to send six men to Mars in 2015 here's the article
Well, I am a high school student taking a night English class in order to graduate early, and next week we have an arguement essay due.  This article inspired me to write about either why we should send people to Mars, or something like "Why the Public Should Want Men on Mars."
All of the arguements I've read here are very helpful, but I need a some credible sources as well (such as papers by Dr. Zubrin and such).  I was wondering if anyone here would be willing to send me some links or something to find such sources.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. in case you didn't catch this yet I am fully in support of a manned Mars mission, and enjoy reading the debates at this site

The topic lasted only 6 posts, but it was friendly and supportive.

The educational institution still exists ... Virginia's Community Colleges .... However, the subdomain is not recognized, which is not surprising after 20+ years.

This is someone it would have been fun to try to reach, but it does not appear to be possible.

On the other hand, if a member of the forum would care to contact Virginia's Community Colleges, they may have records of students, and they might be willing to forward an inquiry. 

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#363 2023-10-21 14:48:29

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Re: Email Outreach Campaign 2022-2023

Out candidate for today is Hope55.

Hope55 registered in 2004, which is First Wave


Registered: 2004-06-20 (0.0.0.0)
Last post: 2004-06-20 15:10:06
Last visit: 1969-12-31 20:00:00

The email provider is not a major, so I'll ask ... Well! There's something there!  I got a one word response: "Mail."

I tried "Whois" and got a message that the site would not allow a description.

The company registered is DigitalOcean, and the location is given as NewYork.

OK ... I'll assume the email address is still working after nearly 20 years.

Hope55 wrote:

There are some who believe that terraforming Europa is out of the question because of the probability that life already exist there.  The fact that the Galileo probe was intentionally crashed into Jupiter's crushing atmosphere to protect the findings regarding its ocean would certianly add to that intrigue.


Should an attempt a terraforming be made, the prospects of harvesting land from  nearby asteriods could create the needed land mass. 

I'm not a scientist, just fascinated by the prospects for the coming generations of human in the regards to space colonization.
Here is a neat link.

http://www.hudsonfla.com/spaceview.htm]Colonization

Hope55 received a nice welcome from atitarev from Melbourne, Australia.

The topic reached Post #41, before ending in late June of 2004.

The topic was:  Terraformation» Should we colonize Europa and Ganamedie! - Nice place to live

I'll send the email. 

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#364 2023-10-24 06:58:11

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Re: Email Outreach Campaign 2022-2023

The email provider for today's candidate no longer exists. 

hollowayiocom >> Member 86 >> First curl of the first Wave!

Registered: 2002-01-17 (0.0.0.0)
Last post: 2002-01-17 19:00:50
Last visit: 1969-12-31 20:00:00

hollowayiocom wrote:

I think another problem is O'Keefe the new NASA administrator.  He's already OK'ing scalebacks on the ISS and is on record as wanting "closer ties to the pentagon."  He's former military and a noted penny-pincher.

I think the handwriting is on the wall here and it reads "military puppet."

It seems to me that a human mars mission should other ways besides NASA to get the job done.  NASA at this point is unreliable.

The topic itself went on for some time.

It ended at #31 with a repair report by SpaceNut.

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#365 2023-11-01 06:44:39

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Re: Email Outreach Campaign 2022-2023

It's been a while since we've looked at one of our candidates ....

I've been trying to convert the email send program to run on Windows 10.  The transition to Windows 10 seems to be working, but the hardware environment is surprisingly challenging. I'm having to verify that requested system actions have completed.  I attribute this to the under powered CPU of the Windows system, combined with the many layers of software that are now present.  Windows XP is tight and clean in comparison.

Today's run will be back on the XP ...

Our candidate for today is hillkid.  Member ID is 235. Candidate number is 997 (we have 996 candidates to go)

The email provider still exists.

Registered: 2002-07-09 (0.0.0.0)
Last post: 2002-07-09 21:37:45
Last visit: 1969-12-31 20:00:00 << First Wave

Re: Mars Gravity Biosatellite » Translife on ISS - Does anyone see a problem with this? » 2002-07-09 21:37:45

hillkid wrote:

One of the advantages of placing the Translife mission on board someone else's spacecraft is that momentum control and the like becomes the ISS problem.  While the momentum of a spinning centrifuge may seem high, the station can handle it.  What likely happens for short periods of time, there are momentum wheels that absorb momentum for a while, then thrusters fire to dump any additional.  There are other ways to do it, but this is the most common.

The topic ran for a total of 14 posts and ended in 2003 with a post from India.

The post was reasonable.  The email provider still exists. I'll send the email.

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