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However, of all of the worlds, mars is the most appreciated.  It is also the easiest to live in.

I do not want to sikp the moon.  However, I dn't think we should ignore mars either.  They should both be colonized in stages, having mars a step or two behind the moon all of the time.  But mars features the lowest healthy gravity (I think, correct me if I'm wrong) for humans.  Yes, I agree, the stars are the final goal, but for the next few hundred years at least, mars is the closest thing to a home we will find.

BTW- 'Necessary'  I think

no, but it seems too coincidental that they are both form there, and both advertising dry ice blasting.  Maybe they are going to talk next about 'a great company for all of your dry ice blasting needs'.

Actually, I would love to go to Caligornia

I think it will be a mix between gov't and private companies.  The government has the know-how, and the private companies have some incentive.  Kind of like the x-prize, except with a bigger push.

so basically, you're saying accellerate alpha particles (helium nuclei) so that they fuse with the N, and make O?

Even if this was feasible (there's a HUGE energy loss)  It would be nearly impossible to set up enough factories to do that.

However, most rocky planets/large moons are at least 30% oxygen (in various oxides) by mass.  Just free up a tiny bit of that (possibly extracting some useful ore in the process, a lot of iron and nickel and silicon) and put it into the atmos.  Only problem is ther would be almost two bars.  Can humans stand 2 bars of pressure forever?

I'd say this one is definitely spam.

honestly, the daanger of asteroid impacts is over exaggerated.  I personally, am not a fan of terraforming anyway.  Paraterraforming is really the only way to go, start with a few domes, then add and add and add.  The domes would have to start with pretty high closure rates, but it's really the easiest way.

However, the mag field for mars could easily be provided by a few M2P2's

If this continues,  soon, I will feel as if I am being personally attacked, and I will report you, I guess .

Ceres is too small to terraform.  The atmosphere would escape, the core would cool (somewhat quickly, I might add), and have fun w/ 1/9 the sunlight, I personally see an antarctic world at best, failing other miracle technologies. 

I agree with Tom Kalbfus on this one: If you are going to terraform ceres, just don't waste your time and money; turn it into x rotating space stations.

Here's how you terraform ceres:

1. Smash Ceres into Mars
2. Say that mars smashed into ceres, making mars ceres
3. Terraform Mars, and be greatful for the heat, volatiles etc. brought in.

If it doesn't destroy planet mars and asteroid ceres, you're golden.

In other words, you don't terraform ceres.  The only way to terraform it would be paraterraforming, and that means miracle domes.

A space elevator falling would burn up in the atmosphere.

If I were you, I wouldn't poo poo the shorter space evevator.  A suborbital craft would be needed to go there, providing some use for suborbit (Although, scramjet, NTR, NIXRS, ETC would be MUCH more effficient) that is, or course, ignoring its multiple advantages.

Oh, I'm sorry, terraformer, actually, I WAS under the impression that you were supposed to talk at forums.  Silly me. :shock:    Since I'm a multibillionare ( I wish) I'll just send people to the moon and mars all by myself.

You don't have to come to these forums, it's optional. 

Don't worry, it's okay to feel angry at people who prove that your ideas are wrong, even if they're right.