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#176 Re: Life on Mars » Are there people against contamination of Mars? » 2003-12-14 22:29:21

I'd say that the amount of "reds" is ~ to 2/3 the amout of pro-terraformers.

#178 Re: Intelligent Alien Life » Extraterrestrials... - The nature of ET » 2003-12-10 21:29:25

Yes Bryon! That was an awesome SciFi movie for its time,
but being able to live on the Martian surface for 10 minutes at a time o-o?
Anywho, I make all my assumptions based on an extra lil' variable I like to call God.
As the Bible says God created man in his image,
perhaps our alien cousins aren't so diffrent,
but then again how do we know the face of God  ??? .

#179 Re: Human missions » Low Earth Orbit space ship design. - Practical? » 2003-12-09 17:09:39

With the my recent discovery of the X Prize, I fthought hey why not try just for the fun of it.

v2model1.jpg

DARC - Zygote will spend one week in orbit spinning at 4 rpm
with 8 passengers and 4 crew members and be capable of re-use in two weeks.

It ascends using the old fashion Hydrogen-Oxygen combustion and descends using the same and uses a parachute to land.

Oopsie wrong forum XD.
However this design could be an alternative to the space elevator no?

#180 Re: Human missions » Gravity - Gravity » 2003-12-09 15:37:01

Most likely the good ole' spin method will be used.

#181 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Why does Earth have so much water? - Do you know? » 2003-12-08 13:18:03

Mars is dry, but it certainly does not lack water :b.
Alotta planets and moons have water in ice form,
Mercury, Mars, the Asteroids contain some ice, comets, Ganymede, Callisto, Europa, Titan(?), and Oort cloud objects might contain ice.

#182 Re: Life on Mars » A "Must-Read" Article - desolate Earth locale/Marsian life » 2003-12-08 13:13:42

Cindy, I think you may well be right about 'tight-rope walking going on'.
    I'm not sure what the game is but there are inconsistencies in the way NASA carries on; the most recent one being their claims about being interested in looking for life, particularly on Mars which is the most obvious place to look, and their failure to place life-detection equipment on the large MERs!
    I think Mars has abundant life, if not on the surface then at least under it, and I'm inclined to believe Dr. Gil Levin when he says his Labeled Release experiment on Viking discovered some of that life.

    Whatever the logic behind it, it seems to me that NASA sees some advantage in playing down the Viking results as inconclusive, deliberately avoiding any further search for life on Mars, while pretending to be enthusiastic about exobiology.

    If Beagle 2 crashes, I've got a sneaking feeling nobody at NASA will be terribly upset about it. It's almost like the longer they can delay unequivocal proof of life on Mars, the better they appear to like it (?).
    But why?!
                                            ???

[For God's sake, somebody please tell me it's nothing to do with fundamentalist bible teachings!!!
                                                             yikes   sad  ]

Thats very biased of you to say something like that, not all of us Chrisitans believe evolution is impossible hmm.

#183 Re: Life on Mars » A "Must-Read" Article - desolate Earth locale/Marsian life » 2003-12-07 21:24:37

Perhaps we are looking for the wrong type of life(both here and other planets)   ???
There could be carbon based lifeforms that breath helium and give off methane as exhaust(possible Titan lifeforms?) or Oxygen based lifeforms that give off Ozone exhaust(both Europa has plenty of).

#184 Re: Terraformation » Blue about Green vs Red? » 2003-12-07 20:37:53

Terraforming seems like a relatively cheap thing to do,
We've landed an object on an asteroid, surely there is a way to guide into a crash collision with the Martian south pole thats less that $3 billion.

#185 Re: Terraformation » Blue about Green vs Red? » 2003-12-07 15:33:49

I'm Ann and Sax's 'Blue'.
Mars will always be the red planet in our hearts and it will remain geologically unchanged for the most part, but we should still try to preserve some of the planet.

#186 Re: Terraformation » Venus Mercury solution! - Kill two birds with one stone » 2003-12-06 13:41:40

Eh that seems like a massive waste of CO2, Nitrogen, Sulfur, and Amonia.
Surely we could use the 89 extra bars for terraforming Mercury, Mars, Europa, Ganymede, Callisto, Io, Titan, and possibly Pluto and still have around 79 bars for terraforming outside our solar system  ??? .

#187 Re: Terraformation » Natural Terraformation? - A Possibillity? » 2003-11-29 16:57:53

Lets say in a hypothetical situation that a 1 kilometer asteriod struck the Martian south pole and tossed chunks of CO2 ice into the atmosphere and melted it. Wouldn't the asteroid release CO2 and H2O providing Water Vapor and heat? Melting the North Pole and forming the legendary 'Oceanis Borealis'? Couldn't we also stear the asteriod into Mars ourself?

#188 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Poll @ Space.com » 2003-11-25 21:26:22

Ehh... Knowing bush its probably space nukes hmm,
but I voted Humans to mars.

#189 Re: Planetary transportation » Land propulsion - Tracks, or tires? » 2003-11-25 17:21:38

Blimps > Ground Transport.
Since tracks are slow and if you're going somewhere on Mars you'd better be there quick, I say some Magnesium variant of tires.

#190 Re: Terraformation » Minimum Terraformation - When can we ditch the pressure suits? » 2003-11-25 16:21:24

Ehh I'm not for sure but I think its 100-300 mb :b.
And I say with Release of locked Nitrogen, CO2 Import and PFC release, and Other terraformation efforts, 40-60 years.

#191 Re: Terraformation » Rapid Terraforming... - ...the most ambitious ideas? » 2003-11-25 10:42:42

Eh.. I have a question about all this which I'm surpisded no one has asked,
What is the rate of CO2 consumption by 'Oceanis Borealis' ?

#192 Re: Unmanned probes » Nozomi » 2003-11-22 13:33:50

Well if it makes it, it'll be a nice lil' bugger of a surving satellite, and if it crashes, well congrats to the Japense for have started 'terraforming' at a minimal level.
*Hopes if Nozomi does crash and contains bacteria, they'll be photo... whatever its called so the Red Planet can get a lil' O2 in the atmosphere*

#193 Re: Terraformation » Rapid Terraforming... - ...the most ambitious ideas? » 2003-11-22 11:52:13

Erm hate to dis ya like this,
but YA you do recieve lots of radiation on the Martian surface,
BUT its not that significant, its like receiving half of what the Astronauts/Cosmonauts on the ISS recieve.

#194 Re: Terraformation » Rapid Terraforming... - ...the most ambitious ideas? » 2003-11-20 18:34:13

I personally 1-3 centuries is plenty fast.
Who knows, the way science heading we may
actually have a longevity drug in the near future  big_smile .

#195 Re: Human missions » No plans for Mars mission in near future - sketchy details » 2003-11-20 13:38:57

Perhaps buisness with soon be able to send
people to the Moon, Mars, and many other places
to go.
Seriously, the government has no law in space, its invalid
if they do, because space is not theirs to use or control.

#196 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Searching for exhaust. - A new method of find ET? » 2003-11-17 13:01:07

Would it be possible to detect alien 'exhaust'?
Imagine looking for ET by searching for planets with exhaut in the 2% range in the alien atmosphere.
Just as humans breath out CO2, wouldn't Suflur and Silcon based life forms breath out  SiO2 and SO2?
If so couldn't we detect Oxygen in alien atmospheres and see if there is CO2, SiO2, or SO2 in the 2% range of the atmospheres?

#197 Re: Terraformation » Terraforming Venus - methods anyone? » 2003-11-15 18:01:26

I see Venus as the beginning start for terraformation of ANY Helelio-Orbit object.
I'm sure we could use the 89 extra bars for Terraformation of all the planets/moons besides Mercury.

#198 Re: Intelligent Alien Life » Extraterrestrials... - The nature of ET » 2003-10-29 20:53:58

I believe in 'aliens'.
Achledi Liotflaci Di is a ship of the Andorean home world that orbits the Centauri star systems o_o...
I don't know how I know, its just a feeling o_o.

#199 Re: Terraformation » Rapid Terraforming... - ...the most ambitious ideas? » 2003-10-13 22:04:29

Martian terraformation isn't that hard in my eyes... of course I ignore math and use pure imagination within realistic accompishments.
Step One:
Release 20 mb of PFC gasses(Freon being the majority).
Step Two:
Nuke the south pole if its not already melted.
Step Three:
Repeat step 2 for the North pole.
Step Four:
Aerobrake asteroids into the atmosphere.
Step Five:
Huzzah, realease PFC amune Lichen into the wet soil.
big_smile~ about 60 years in all.

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