New Mars Forums

Why 2010?

China. Of course we could always give up on Taiwan. 2008-2015 will see some sort of resolution, one way or the other, there.

If we're still fighting the war on terror as now, we have few options.

Nice idea, but...

who holds the bag when a savior tries, and destroys the thing?

Maybe it'd be easiest to import nitrogen to Mars for the first misison with a greenhouse, but a half century later Mars might be exporting nitrogen to the moon! In terms of delta-v, it's half as "far" away as the surface of the Earth.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the moderate Muslim in Iraq found predominantly among the Sunni minority?

Shiite Whabism got us here, no?

Sunnis are not unanimous in their view of the Shi'ites. However the Sunnis do not consider the difference between the Shi'ites and the Sunnis to be comparable to the difference between the different mazahib of Sunni Fiqh. A tiny minority maintains that Shias (specifically the Jafaryia or The Twelvers) can be considered a "fifth madhab" of Islam. A decree from the prestigious Al-Azhar university in Egypt supporting this later viewpoint was widely condemned by Sunni scholars the world over. Generally, most Sunnis consider Shia to be a misguided and heretical sect, but within the fold of Islam. However all three of established Sunni schools in South Asia, i.e the Berailvi, the Deobandi and the Wahhabi consider Shia to be apostates from Islam.

Quote (Cobra Commander @ Dec. 07 2004, 10:30)
What have we come too when the friggin' Fascist is the calm one?   

Because you guys are winning?

I resent the implication that George Bush and Karl Rove are fascists.

It reflects poorly on the rest of us. 

*Due to laws within this nation, Jerry Falwell's powers are limited.  He can't build dirty bombs or store up a cache of weapons without the Feds pouncing on him and tossing him in the slammer.  (And I'm not implying I think Falwell WOULD do those sorts of things in the first place, but then I'm not eager to give him the benefit of the doubt with regards to much).

Do we have that same sort of control over the rag-tag religious jihad nuts in the Middle East?  They aren't beholden to our legal process.

--Cindy

How about forcing my chidlren to learn that creationism is as equally valid as evolution? After all, both are just theories and neither theory is better than the other.

That "threat" is happening today.

= = =

You see, Cindy, the West vs Islam WILL morph into Christians versus Islam - - "My God is bigger than their God" - - is how it is being played out TODAY!

*Oh, I know.  Don't get me started...!  :angry:   :;):  I'm the LAST person here who cares for religion.

But Falwell and folks in this nation are "muzzled" by laws, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.  Falwell can't order some of his goons to ransack my house and harrass me for not believing the way he does.  That could, does and has happened in nations like Afghanistan and Iran, etc., etc. 

--Cindy

::edit::  You added more as I was responding    As for the last -- yes, I think that's likely.  But that doesn't prevent me from seeing the threat (BOTH pose) independently.  Particularly those folks who are outside the reach of our laws, our concepts of human rights and freedoms, etc.  I fear them more, because they aren't "muzzled."

Liberty University's School of Law Mission Statement: "Liberty University School of Law aspires to produce future leaders who are clear thinkers, skilled legal practitioners, and morally responsible leaders of society. Thus the purpose of the School of Law is to equip graduates in law with a superior legal education in fidelity to the Christian faith expressed through the Holy scriptures."

At first blush, Liberty University's School of Law Mission Statement appears innocuous, but it is actually a dangerous and radical declaration. Falwell is making no bones about his Law School’s mission, saying that graduates of the school "would be on the Judeo-Christian side of every issue."

Remember the punishment thread?  Severity versus certainty of punishment?

Being ruled by Jerry Falwell would certainly be better than being ruled by bin Laden however the threat of being ruled by Jerry Falwell is far more immediate and likely.

Therefore, WHY should I accept the rule of Falwell because you say you are afraid of Islam?

*Due to laws within this nation, Jerry Falwell's powers are limited.  He can't build dirty bombs or store up a cache of weapons without the Feds pouncing on him and tossing him in the slammer.  (And I'm not implying I think Falwell WOULD do those sorts of things in the first place, but then I'm not eager to give him the benefit of the doubt with regards to much).

Do we have that same sort of control over the rag-tag religious jihad nuts in the Middle East?  They aren't beholden to our legal process.

--Cindy