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#126 Re: Not So Free Chat » Political Potlock I » 2006-02-19 11:54:50
Marathon Battle 490 BC : Two centuries before Greece became a summit of science, philosophy and math.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(number)
Did young ancient greek men out on a date wind up in trouble with ancient restaurant owners because they ordered meals they couldn't pay for because they discovered after dinner that they had "zero" money, and didn't know it ?
The point was : could "nothing" be a number as any number ?
Records show that the Ancient Greeks seemed unsure about the status of zero as a number: they asked themselves "how can 'nothing' be something?", leading to interesting philosophical and, by the Medieval period, religious arguments about the nature and existence of zero and the vacuum. The paradoxes of Zeno of Elea depend in large part on the uncertain interpretation of zero. (The ancient Greeks even questioned that 1 was a number.)
Greek letter symbols for large number end with 10000, if they were used to count or calculate frequently higher numbers, they would have attributed a letter for 100000, one for a million, and so on.
Anyways, for a man in antics, and even in the middle ages, 10000 is a very very large number known only by the few that could count over a couple of their ten fingers
#127 Re: Not So Free Chat » Political Potlock I » 2006-02-17 02:36:06
Persia is a much more bad ass name too, at the Hot Gates the Inmortals over came the Spartins. 300 spartin vs 1,000,000 Persians, a battle that Mars him self would not of won. The Hot gates was turned red with the blood of the 300 Spartains and the 200,000 Inmortals that died that day.
You mix legend with history 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Immortals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Marathon
Herodotus tells that Immortals were heavy infantry lead by Hydarnes that was kept constantly in strength of exactly 10,000 men — every killed, seriously wounded or sick member was immediately replaced with a new one. The regiment accepted only Median or Persian applicants.
Ancient greeks weren't able to count, think up to a million or to write such a number because they didn't even know what a zero was.
The Persians could never have the logistic and the fleet to land one million men anywhere
#128 Re: Not So Free Chat » Froggy's » 2006-02-08 03:30:32
LO
By the sound of it you've got a some sort of monolithic national labor union.
No more.
We had, it was the "CGT". It was teared apart post WWII when the CIA money funded "Force Ouvrière" and christian Church funded "CFTC", a christian trade union to break the powerful marxist lead "CGT" trade Union monopoly.
Since there are half a dozen weak trade unions which compete and are very divided.
There is a strong attachment of the french public opinion for welfare state.
#129 Re: Not So Free Chat » Froggy's » 2006-02-07 14:43:51
LO Rxke
More than 70% froggy public opinion oppose Villepin projects...
One more year of Chirac social regression before presidential elections.
Rightist policy will be swept out
#130 Re: Unmanned probes » Cassini-Huygens - NASA/ESA Saturn orbiter & Titan lander » 2006-02-07 14:38:07
Hello
One year data study results from Cassini Huygens.
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/multimedia … ast001.mp4
Gotta understand froggy english speaking 
#131 Re: Not So Free Chat » Race and Culture - A Changing Europe - Opening a mighty can of worms... » 2006-02-05 05:39:28
European media are struggling to preserve freedom of speech and expression in the media/free press; meanwhile the US State Department and the UK gov't are sympathizing with the Muslims. :shock: :?
I'd better never hear another American refer to Europeans as "Eurowimps."
--Cindy
LO Cindy
Here, you can find the caricatures. French press took the risk to publish them so that everybody could make an opinion about. News papers which published them being prosecuted by extreme left antiracist organisations.
Indeed some are outrageous, others harmless, but muslims overreact, paintings of the prophet did exist in the muslim area, most of the angry muslim demonstrators didn't even saw the cartoons, as well as most of the muslims which condemned Salman Rushdie never read any line of him.
Lot of hysteria from the muslims in this affair.
#132 Re: Not So Free Chat » Froggy's » 2006-01-24 08:01:12
Duh... Obvious answer:
The French go on a holiday to Spain and...
but, only 10% froggies go abroad for hollydays :cry:
#133 Re: Not So Free Chat » Political Potlock I » 2006-01-24 07:52:31
I really DON'T know the history of Iran, but am interested.
(..) But I don't think the rest of the planet should trust Iran to acquire Nuclear Capability only because WMD was used on them in the past.
LO
I don't know 
I just can say that Froggies turned to Nuke power mainly because they didn't want to fear anymore conflict with Germany.
Im trying to know if the best has been done with Iran to avoid its greed for nuke power.
Is the euro troïka the best for talks with Iranians when Germany and France helped Saddam regime during Iran-Iraq war ? I can't say.
Israel helped Iran. Maybe, in spite of hard speeches at Israel, Israel should lead negiociations with Iran
#134 Re: Not So Free Chat » Froggy's » 2006-01-23 13:43:59
LO
In a recent european poll, the spanish men answers to the poll made of them the first lovers with the highest supposed copulation rate in Europe...
...SO
Do you have any idea on why they have the lowest natality rate in Europe...
... when the Froggies have the highest one ? 
#135 Re: Not So Free Chat » Political Potlock I » 2006-01-23 10:37:47
LO
I'm having some fun reading your saloon strategy, Commodore and RIZ4ROCKET.
Wonder if you even know Iran's geography and history.. :shock:
At first, Iran is four times geographically more extended than Iraq, so that any invader will need more than a million soldiers to have any chance to control the whole country. The country have high mountains, desert zones, more than 4000 miles borderlines, and 70 millions inhabitants.
So, the cost of a war at Iran should be four times higher than war at Saddam.
You think that Iranians will welcome US troops ?
They learned History and know that USA had already ousted Mossadegh to replace him by the Shah which has been quickly hatred by the populace. Hating the mollahs doesn't mean that Iranians will love their ennemies, specially if they are the "big Satan".
My son in law toured Syria, jordan and Labanon last year. He can't be called a nationalist, but for the first time in his life, he had to stick a french flag on his T-shirt to prevent any agressivity at him. Even the young Syrians eating in MacDonald's deeply hate USA. I guess it would be the same in Iran. All Iranians were fed at school with an intense anti US propaganda.
Iranians suffered more than 1 million victims during Iraq-Iran war, when the West supported Saddam; they suffered gaz attacks, and their greed for nuke armament is popular: they never want to be threatened or attacked with WMD.
Iranians are traditionnaly ennemies of the Arabs. Iran is diplomatically isolated.
The Ahmedinejad anti Israel speeches are just a poor attempt to gather some support among extremist arabs.
Poor strategists are the ones who are unable to realize what is the ennemy point of view. :twisted:
#136 Re: Not So Free Chat » Froggy's » 2006-01-07 16:54:49
LO
Please would you tell me if
unlimited homephone calls + cable TV + unlimited 10.Mbps Internet for about 30$ per month would be seen as expensive in USA ?*No; it'd be a bargain.
My husband and I pay:
$25.00 per month unlimited homephone calls
$45.00 per month cable TV (regular programming; no additional fancy packages)
$21.00 per month for internet access
-Cindy
Some change: unlimited phone calls is for national as well as international calls if not towards portable phones 
#137 Re: Not So Free Chat » I'll take malaprops for *5* Bob - Apropos of Nothing continues. . . » 2006-01-01 10:13:30
A happy new year, everybody
#138 Re: Not So Free Chat » Froggy's » 2005-12-14 16:44:12
LO
But that is kind of my point, they have it as a national language, but a pan European Union undermines the need for French as a national language
Well, french remains the second european work langage, and is still choosen as a sophisticated language by students.
In long sentences, such as textes of laws, french is quite more precise than english, because qualifiquier adjectives do combine with the words, so that if a text may be interpretated in two divergent ways in English, the french understanding of the french version of a european law or rule will be mostly accepted as the reference.
Another point is a very active french movie industry which collaborate closely with many countries as producer. An example is "Commissaire Maigret" TV serial which were filmed in Poland and in Czech Republic because many buildings there still looks like french 1950 years buildings.
And back to economics, powerful french supermarkets groups and automobile industry spread in eastern Europe, where french exportations have been multiplied by four since these countries joined EU. Many french farmers do settle in eastern Europe bringing money in obsolete and poor farming regions which have to upgrade to european hygiena and productivity standards. If USA is the world first agro-industry exporter in volumes, France is the first in value.
Even british agro-industry leaders oppose to a stop in subventioning french farmers because they can get cheap supplies. For instance, 80% of scotch whisky production rely on french wheat malt. (Scots supply pure spings water and work)
#139 Re: Not So Free Chat » Froggy's » 2005-12-14 07:55:02
LO
Importance of french will come back if ever we're are abble to keep our economic, science and research ranking.
Don't forget that about 100 million peoples out of France have french as national language, mainly in Africa.
For the so-called Euro-US shift of values, don't you think that it's much thinner than the differences between your's and the middle-west US country men ?
Don't you think that almost all world big metropolies citiezns will finally share the same values ?
You know what ? Many Europeans and other migrants that choosed to live in France say:
"This is a bullshit country , but after all, we love to live here"
The immigrated origin youth which whistled the french national anthem and set fires in the french suburbs, were in fact deseperate to feel a rejection from the french society.
We have to make a special integration effort, to begin with our parliament which have almost not any immigrated people representative.
We have one black town mayor among 36000 communities mayors !
#140 Re: Not So Free Chat » Froggy's » 2005-12-14 07:12:20
Hi Clark
We're bitter partners because, in fact, we're so close.
For instance, frenchies do understand New-Yorkers much more easily than Brits when they speak, there is some kind of convergence of american english with french.
European peoples will not melt in an european identity because we have choosen to keep and protect all european langages in European institutions, even if the main work language is euroenglish. What wasn't the case in USA till quite a recent time.
For instance, I can read spanish, portuguese, italian and romanian, understanting 70% of the meanings (after all, these are latin originated languages) , and when I hear German I never studied, I'm able to separate correctly words in their speech, just because I often watch foreign cable TV channels.
Sorry I've got to leave, be back latter on
#141 Re: Not So Free Chat » Froggy's » 2005-12-14 06:32:10
But none of this answers the pressing question on my mind...
Do the French have to pay to watch a Jerry Lewis telethon?!
We in the States don't.
We'd love to have Jerry Lee Lewis as a main guest for one of our telethons.
This year, maybe because many donated for Indonesia quake and tsunami, last year donation amount reccord for mucoviscidose research telethon wasn't beaten :oops:
#142 Re: Not So Free Chat » Froggy's » 2005-12-14 06:26:36
LO
Please would you tell me if
unlimited homephone calls + cable TV + unlimited 10.Mbps Internet for about 30$ per month would be seen as expensive in USA ?*No; it'd be a bargain.
--Cindy
Lo Cindy
Thanks, 30€ per month for unlimited homephone calls + cable TV + unlimited 10Mb/s DSL internet is now the average price in France in the metropolies.
The problem is that you can't get that in the country yet. It'll take five more years to have every small country towns and villages to be that equipped.
As you know, we're supposed to be a technologically declining country
#143 Re: Not So Free Chat » Froggy's » 2005-12-12 16:38:07
LO
Please would you tell me if
unlimited homephone calls + cable TV + unlimited 10.Mbps Internet for about 30$ per month would be seen as expensive in USA ?
#144 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » New Discoveries #5 - Deep space, galactic, solar system, etc. » 2005-12-09 16:31:49
#145 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » New Discoveries #5 - Deep space, galactic, solar system, etc. » 2005-12-09 11:37:04
#146 Re: Not So Free Chat » Political Potlock I » 2005-12-04 14:34:57
I dont trust what the BBC airs as the truth. Also as long as the person is not a US citzeen and is not in American territory.
Getting so closed-minded...
What would you say, should foreigners deny US moon travels just because news announcers are not from their own countries ?
#147 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Medical Science Potpourri » 2005-12-03 03:49:31
Surgeons perform first face transplant
#148 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Titan » 2005-11-30 10:25:18
#149 Re: Not So Free Chat » I'll take malaprops for *5* Bob - Apropos of Nothing continues. . . » 2005-11-27 13:43:37
LO
Watching admins and mods play with their powers, while we mere mortals can only sit in envy.
nerds.
Just set your own forum you can admin