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I agreee, robcwillis. If only the politicians would actually listen to the voters on the nuclear issue instead of the anti-nuke crowd. It never ceases to amaze me that if NERVA would have continued, we could have manned exploration of the outer planets right now. I've said it in other threads, but we need to rejuvenate the "Operation Congress" again and keep it actively going. Let's overwhelm them on the manned Mars mission and use of nuclear power in space! Maybe we'll actually convert a few to our side!
I second Cindy's comment. MAIL IT!! I wonder if they will write back?
Good post, Echus_Chasma!
I think that if this were possible to make it should maybe be in two parts of a 30 minute informercial. You current post could the first part, the second could talk about the use in space and the various experts in those fields i.e. Dr. Zubrin, NASA, Plus Ultra technologies, etc...
You think it's possible to format your current post into a letter that could be sent out to Congress and/or VIPs? I imagine that once the data is input it's possible!
Coal, geothermal, solar, and biomass is not going to help us get into space. Only nuclear propelled spacecraft is attainable.
Has anyone seen this infomercial? I watched it to see how slick it would be against nuclear power and other forms of energy. It even had a couple of Hollywood stars in it. I thought Jeffery Tambor was about to break down and start crying! The Mars Society and the nuclear propulsion communities should team up and do the same thing. In the Greenpeace commerical, they had T-Shirts, a pre-made letter to send to the President, automatic donations, etc... Would this be a good idea for us to use? Let's hear some ideas about this.
Not a bad idea, soph. However, let's create an agency for that purpose other than the UN. I've thought about that myself. An agency dedicated strictly to space exploration and developing new ideas is a must in my book.
ecrasez_I_infame,
You're probably going to bash me over the head for asking this , but have you seen this guy on the HSN who sells the telescopes called Galileo? If you have, what is your opinion? I have a couple of copies of Orion telescopes catalogs but I don't know if those are good ones or not. Are there any sites out there that you can compare telescopes? Thanks.
Just curious. Has anyone heard of a movie that James Cameron directed on the Mars Direct mission? It was supposed to be in IMAX format.
I say jump on it, soph! But you probably need to get permission from The Mars Society first. Good Luck!!
As I've said before, Orion IS the best chance of getting a permanent manned presence back into space and nuclear power IS a must for the manned Mars mission. Maybe combine the two technologies to achieve both goals. If we keep hedging, stalling, and constantly being afraid to put nuclear power to an even better use, then be prepared for mankind never to leave the planet.
I agree Shaun. People are more aware of things scientific than they were 40-50 yrs ago but still have that 1950s mind set of anything nuclear or "atomic" is bad. I've said it before and I'll say it again. With the current administration and a majority Republican House and Senate, there needs to be a push on the nuclear movement!
Just imagine having a crew exploring our solar system within our lifetimes. It's only going to happen with nuclear propulsion.
I may sound like a little kid, but those are some Awesome pictures!!! Good Job!!
How large would Orion be? What is the estimated crew size? Does it have steerable engines? I have heard of Orion before since that was our closest nuclear propulsion spaceship. It's a shame when it died.
People will always complain about fallout and radiation. Well, standing next to a microwave gives you radiation. If launching from the ocean proves to the scientists, and more importantly the general public, that a 0.1 KT detonation is harmless to propel a ship into space, then IT SHOULD HAPPEN! How else are we going to test applications without testing first? Computer programs can only do so much.
Thanks for posting, NuclearSpace. I've been to your site many times. I hope you stay around so you can convince others about the benefit of nuclear power.
As always, RobertDyck, Good post! You may have answered somewhere before, but do you work in the Aerospace field? You have some extremely thought out ideas.
Ion drives is an excellent point. It's been proven and does not cause the environmentalists to worry about doing any damage to the Earth.
That's very interesting post you have RobertDyck! If we could only go back in time and convince the government and NASA to continue with NERVA, imagine where we would be!
Oker56, post the letter. I think everyone would like to read it.
The only way to have an ambitious space program is with Nuclear power. Then we could go to Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and beyond.
Now, how long will it take for this material to get fully tested?
Too bad that we don't have an agency that sole purpose is to test new materials, ideas, propulsion systems only.
So what do we need to do? Start a new "Operation Congress" campaign with a updated letter. I've sent out letters before but of course no response. Makes you wonder if the letters even get read by the politicians! But seriously, I think that we need to "kick it up a notch" on promoting nuclear propulsion.
I don't know if I've posted this to the right topic or not.
I've found two very good websites on nuclear propulsion:
http://www.newworlds.com/nucpro.html
http://www.nuclearspace.com/
I'm not an expert on anything dealing with this topic, but from what I've read, to me, nuclear propulsion is the best way to go as far as propulsion. It's been tested in the past and found to work. It has Isp(s) hundreds of times higher than chemical propulsion. We have the material available from nuclear missiles that are being dismantled. I don't want to turn this into a political debate but, with a majority Republican party in Congress and the White House, now would be the best time to try and get research and development started again. I know that the environmentalists are going to complain about a rocket blowing up in the atmosphere, but in the above listed websites, even if a reactor was in an explosion of a Challenger size it would not have received any damage or leaks. I would like to hear comments and/or complaints. Thanks.
Please dont notice the lack of hard evidence that Iraq has a neucular capability. No we have no evidence of any kind, but that never stopped us before.
What do you expect when we can't get inspectors into the country?
Please do not recall that the US was finantially supporting Iraq while it used those chemical weapons. It might not have mattered then but it does now. Then it was much more convienient to suppress this information, but now that we are after Iraq we will let it surface.
The only reason we were at the time was because of the "fine" Carter administration that let Iran slip into the state that is now.
George Bush is all about homeland secuity. We feel safe now that he's kicking 3rd world country ass!
Well, most countries above the 3rd world status are not as extreme against the Western Hemisphere.
Now since we have a majority ruled Congress, we should renew "Operation Congress". I think that we should emphasize nuclear propulsion research and development. That seems the most current and available technology that has proven results. I say that someone come up with a new letter that can be sent to the sentators, representatives, V.P., and the President. I'm interested in any comments.
Maybe now we can get nuclear propulsion systems off the ground!
ecrasez_l_infame, I believe it is Low Earth Orbit.
Meals Refusing to Exit is another term that I have heard.