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#76 Re: Terraformation » Polluting Mars - Good idea? » 2005-09-22 13:18:37

" And also, getting a BA is the second lowest degree you can get. Why have you not attempted to get a MA or even a Ph.D? Plus, a majority of graduate students get business degrees. Until then, you will be a mediocre plant scientists. Now with my grades and SAT score, I could probably get into a good university or institute of technology, such as California Institute of Technology, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and other schools of that caliber. I know as a fact that both Caltech and MIT are better schools than ASU. "
You dont know much about college do you, first it is what you want to make of it. Going to MIT may be you idea of a good school but not mine. I want to work as a park ranger, or for the BLM, or a company that works with plants. MIT does not offer a good plant science degree they are more tech stuff. Also I live in Arizona and as a resident I can goe to school cheap at MIt I would pay out of state rates.
Also ASU is a well respected school witha degree from there I can get good Job anywhere in the west, thanks to all there grads who like to hire fellow ASU grads.
2. You first get a BA before you get a masters degree, then a PHD. Becauase you need to very well educated to get into grad school. Also my Dad got a PHD from ASU which also makes me want to go to that school. Also Caltech out of state and too liberal for me. As a member of the republican party I would be not fair too well in a very liberal school. Any ways As a plant science major ASU has a great program and has every thing I need. For grad school I might go to UA the school to the south of me. There plant programs are world star. Also ASU better than MIt because I live right next to the school, location is Key. Also ASU Mars program has sent many probs parts to mars with Nasa. MIT or caltect are not known for there mars programs.
If you are so smart take the GRE test and see if you can get into a grad school, MIT or caltech have very high standerds. If you dont get a very high score you will end up at some low state school.

#77 Re: Terraformation » Polluting Mars - Good idea? » 2005-09-22 13:01:33

Yes it is a pissing contest and I am winning, Also I did not take the SAT to get in to ASU. Try quess how I got around that SAT, the Aims test for high school.
Also a 11th grade kid could not hanndle classes at ASU, I git a A in PLB 200, Geo 103, bio ecology, and many others. True most of the time I was just playing vedeo games, or sleeping. But I proved to my self I am smart passing classes were 80% of the students drop. It is a great feeling to in a class that had a hunderd students at the start of the year and to be one the 20 people that did drop and passed. In High school you cant give up like you can in college. They just give you a D and let you go on. In college you have too do it all on your own. With out the help of rich perents that send you to some fanncy private school. I went to public school it was hell on earth for learning. When you fear being stab or robed in the hulls, you forget about being so concern with spelling misstakes, and just try to get pass and get out while you can.
If you are so smart what your IQ? Also take the GRE the test you take when you try to get into grad school in college. That test is harder than the SAT and will show you how little you know and that you should not so disrespectfull to people who are older than you and are better educated than you. In high school I had no idea of what college was like

#78 Re: Terraformation » Polluting Mars - Good idea? » 2005-09-20 13:09:28

"horrendous spelling and grammatical errors" That is a nice thing to make fun of and is rude. I got my learnings from Arizona public school systems, My spelling was perfectly fine enough to pass highschool, and to to get an AA college degree.
I will soon have my BA in plant science from ASU. Every one in Arizona is bad at spelling because we dont feel that it is important. Anyways only uptight smartass know it alls care. My self esteam is more important than you, by pointing out my misstakes you have hurt my self esteam, that makes you a grammerNazi.
Also I am better than you in smarts, natural sciences, and comedy. Just because you spout off what some liberal teacher told you about greenhouse gases does not make you right, being racial bigetted about mainland Americans, not having a understanding about topo of the world. Just makes you a little smart ass liberal biget prejudding reborn christens, two bit MR below 75.
Also "MR below 75" is the PC way to say, Mental retarded below 75 in IQ. I learned that in a class about how to educated "The special learner" Meaning you are able to read off, or repeat thing you they say on CNN, or say thing you read in the newspapper and then repeat it and act like it your own idea. Thats dubble plus good for you! Meaning study up before you make false jackass statements about things you know little about, and form your own opinions based on reason. smile

#79 Re: Terraformation » Polluting Mars - Good idea? » 2005-09-20 12:42:30

Hello VTTFSH_V, You still did not get that that I was joking about the New Holy land. Also I am not flooding the world, natural and manmade causes will if CO2 and other greenhouses gases amounts rise over the next century. Also look at a topographical map of the world, and some very detailed map of the USA mainland.
A rise in the earth sealevel by 300ft would only flood area currently below 300ft elevation. Much of lowland texas and the midwest would flood but most of the state is above 300ft. Only eastern texas would flood, and only west texas is a desert most of which is mountains 7000ft to 4000ft in elevation. Also most of west is way above 300ft not just the great basin. Which has its own salt lakes that would fill with more rain, and become large fresh water lakes as big as the great lakes. Also There would not be more heat waves, and texas would not fry. That just a silly idea billy!
Also I am from Phoenix Arizona, not from texas so stop bashing texas. I am a student at the school of liberal arts and sciences, at ASU. Don't bash Arizona, it is a great state.

#80 Re: Terraformation » Polluting Mars - Good idea? » 2005-09-15 13:20:13

Also the earth is self regulating, as the earth warmed rainfall would increase which cleans out CO2 from the air. More rain more plants means that they use more CO2. Also Global warming will be just a few degrees, also it is a missconception that global warm causes heat haves. Global rise by 3 degrees will not cause texas 10 reach 250 degrees. Over all over long periods of time it does have a effect but the effect is minor for local areas. Over all summers in northern and southern hemispheres will be only a little warmer like adding a 10th a degree to there over all averages. But winters will be more mild, and springs will come a week or to early for your area. This has the effect of melting snows, pack ice sooner. In the polar areas this effect will have greasest effect since it very cold and just a little warming can push the area from ice bound to ice free. Tropical, subtropical, and temperate regions will not be greatly changed. Over hunderds of years if the earth stays 2 or 3 degrees warmer ecosystem like boral, of grassland might move north a by a hunderd miles. On mountian slope a 100ft change in elevation for biomes in the northern hem. In the tropics little changes, Increased tropical strom and hurricanes might help water desert region between 20N and 30N lat.
As the polar caps melt increases in sealevel will have the greatest change to the world. Over 500 to 1000 years sea level will rise 300ft to 400ft, in America the low coastal areas will flood, but over 100s of years so people just move up slope making new citys. But as the mid west floods up to like siant louse. It will make the gulf of mexica larger and during monsoon flows over the west will be wetter. The american west will be wetter with a climate like the current southeast us. Durning the paleocene the fllod mid west provided a simliar climate for the west.
Any ways I know a lot more about history, climate, and other thing than you. What are you 17 still in High school! I am a collage student studing plant sciences. So dont call me stupid, that is rude and against forum rules. Also I was takling about the first guy stromrage commits not yours. Also I was making jokes not saying what I thought. Most people like to have fun and BS when they post, most people dont take things as insalts. Only MR's lessthan75 due. Also I just dont like smartass liberals from New York or Boston that is not a crime. Please dont be so rash in your commits, but take thing with a grain of salt. Keflam saids da lord!

#81 Re: Terraformation » Polluting Mars - Good idea? » 2005-09-15 12:46:12

I was talking about the other guy stormrage he brought up star terk, also you called me a Zealot? I am not a self hating liberal jew from New York, Jew like would be insalted by that remark. If I was jewish beening called a Zealot would be a complment. Because I support the good jewish people in palistein, or new Zion.
Also I live America! which a free is acountry, according to the US constittution I can say any thing I want about New England or for that matter your state of little islands that does not matter beyond the pineapple crop.
Also dont mess with Texas boy, they won their independence and are proud of their state, they also freely joined the Texas republic to america.
Also if the polar cap melted it raised sea level by 300ft to 400ft, also it not be boiling, with increased ran fall and clouds the summers would be all that hotter, winter would be more mild. Your thinking of Venus which has 87 bars of CO2 and is also a lot closer to the sun. I dought that would even will get the earth Co2 percent above 1% because any higher it would be toxic for us. Right now its 300 ppm Parts per million of molecules thats small and no where near 1%.

#82 Re: Terraformation » Polluting Mars - Good idea? » 2005-09-14 14:58:46

The greenhouse is good here on earth because with out it the Earth would be a cold frozen place too like mars. It not pollution! The greenhouse effect here on is just being enhaced by man, which will create a warmer wetter Earth than now. So it is not pollution you liberal know it all just saying what you herd on CNN then repeating likes it your own idea, and like its da truth. You dont know much about terraforming at all, you should read up on it before you make uneducated remarks about it. I mean what are you some MR star treck wacthing lumbken that worship outdated idea of noetrekism. It just makes me sick when I hear people bad mouthing terraforming as pollution, and for that matter the very process that keeps the earth from turning into a another snowball Earth event!
Learn right wacth Fox news, I also think GW would make a great leader of the world. He thinks also that reterraforming the earth is great, and soon with all the super greenhouses gases released the earth will be a pan tropical world, with all thoses old coastal city of New York and Boston under a couple handered feet of water the world will truely be better off with out liberal Dens of crazynise.
I think the new capital of the US should be Midland Texas, God bless the new holy city.

#83 Re: Terraformation » Provide the Moon with atmosphere - oxygen one » 2005-09-14 14:40:27

On the moon if it had a atmosphere such temperature extermes would be not common. The moon gets the same solar inslation as the earth does, so the same heating. The month long day would really heat up the day side, but the air and water would provide a heat flow to the cool night side. Very wendy but if large water ocean would help to stop excessive heating by providing a heat sink, which be released during the month long night at that site.
A world house would solve the problem of too long days and night by shading out the sun by the roof, and just use lighting on the underside of the roof to provide a 24 hr day/night cycle. solar cell on top of the roof provide the power of crouse.
Small bodys light the moon need phisical structures to hold in their air and to protect from ersion by the solar wind. Worldhouse work great on a small scale like a small city to covering the entire planet or moon with a roof. This is the best terraforming method for small bodys of the solar system.

#84 Re: Terraformation » Provide the Moon with atmosphere - oxygen one » 2005-09-13 18:45:48

I had posted a longer post about worldhouses but when I submited it it did not post, so I dont fell like writing the big long post out again, but a was a great idea at the time sad .

#86 Re: Not So Free Chat » Current Gasoline/Petrol Price$ » 2005-08-24 19:15:27

In Needles Cal it was $3.30 a gallon. In Bear river it was $2.00 a gallon.

#87 Re: Not So Free Chat » I'll take malaprops for *5* Bob - Apropos of Nothing continues. . . » 2005-08-24 19:00:02

We here in the God loving USA just call them shopping carts, or homeless SUVS.
On a different note I just started a new resreach project on paleocene Cycocarya of North America. I spent all day carfully counting the veins and fibers of the fossils so that I coould compare it to extant members of the family carya species. Cyclocarya brownii is very small and has wings so can be spread by wind. Extant members now only live in china. Pecans and walnut trees are related but have large seed for animal dispersal.  Are any of you resreaching fun things too please tell about it.
I have just learned most things in paleosceinces are made up so I plane to do the same.
I bet the first fossil on Mars will be fossil algea cells.

#88 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Revolution - Which side are you on? » 2005-07-13 21:22:12

I would be on my side of crouse, any ways why would you want to have a revolution? Blindly flowing orders alwise makes people happy.

#89 Re: Not So Free Chat » Which is Right? » 2005-07-13 21:19:35

The strong run the world so might makes right, that is just how the world works.

#90 Re: Not So Free Chat » Spielberg's "War of the Worlds" » 2005-07-05 21:34:12

The movie was great, I saw it durning the weekend. In the book the invaders were from Mars, but now just from out there. Thanks to Nasa we now know there is no life on mars. It was cool there invaders were reterraforming earth so would it be alianforming? Using the humans as raw resourses for there red weeds was cool. It reminds me if we go to mars we be doing the same thing, I just hope we don't get the brid flue like the invaders did in the movie. How did the aliens know where to put their machines. Did they just put them in areas were they fought people would settle, like in the wet east cost. Or did they just turn on the ones that ended up near populated citys. It would be a big waste to have the tripods wondering around the sparsly populated great plains or deserts looking for a few hundered people. Also just hide in your Y2K bunker the aliens would never find you.

#91 Re: Not So Free Chat » Spielberg's "War of the Worlds" » 2005-06-29 21:46:57

Is wonderful, any one like tom cruz that earns 20 mil a flim, and upgrades his wife every 5 years is a great man in my book. Katie Holmes now that's I can see fighting for against those mars monsters. She was always my favorite on Dawsen creek, also the only one to have a creer outside diner shows and mall, brithday partys. From that show. I mean poor vanderbeck is a midnight cowboy down on broadway.

#92 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Communism - Just like Star Trek » 2005-06-29 21:40:05

We do not want reds communist any where! The evil empire is dead lets not bring it back for free health care. Slaude!

#93 Re: Terraformation » Speed Bumps to Terraforming (Anywhere) » 2005-06-22 08:53:49

Thats what the serria club does here on earth, they stoped oil exploaration in Amwar, just because they think they should be the only one to binifit from it.
In fiction I think they are called the reds, people who want to stop terrafroming of mars. They fall in love with mars but fail to figure out that after terraforing Mars will still be Mars and will still be very different from the earth. The only difference is that you can now enjoy the surface with out a space suit.
That is until energy hungry antimatter producers slam a calisto into mars turning the planet into a molten ocean of lava. But with the more mass mar moch 2 will be better able to hold onto a atmosphere with out constanst replacement or special cooling machines. That day the sky will be falling chicken little.

#94 Re: Terraformation » Antimater core deposition - - re-heating the martian guts » 2005-06-22 08:41:19

Using heat engines to venus down would work great. But as the planet cools down the % effeincy would go down due to less difference in temperature. The amount of thermal energy in jupitor must be huge. Temps at the core must be very high, also the amount of D hydrogen in jupitor must be high too. Lots of energy is in that planet just weating to be used.
I would hit calisto into Mars rather than Europa because europas if has oceans would be a good place to seetle in for life.

#95 Re: Terraformation » Antimater core deposition - - re-heating the martian guts » 2005-06-21 12:27:27

Large impacts could be a way to cause born again planets. Small planets like mars, earths moon, and other moons. Lost their heat hast due their smaller masses, surface areas, and smaller radiao active core to provived heat. When you heat a planet you bring it back to life, you use the heat to make anti mater a great fuel. While you speed up cooling the surface so that it is solid again. Better than just letting heat seep into space.
Making earth massed planets from comets would work great, though you have a lot of excess water, the planets would be gobal oceans with mantles of water ice and NH3. The lower mantal would be rork and the core would be ligiuid iron and a center core  of heavey metals. Large mires in orbit could the planet with sunlight, or geothermal energy, and micro wave tarnsmitters could beam the energy the mire, whear the micro wave would turned into light to the planet.
Or a artifical sun powered antimatter, or a mini sun of D-D fusion of hyrogen about the size of are moon in orbit around the planet. With all that water you could get the need mass of D hyrogen. On such a planet the church is right the sun does orbit their world.

#96 Re: Terraformation » Antimater core deposition - - re-heating the martian guts » 2005-06-20 13:18:42

The way to heat a planet back up is to hit a lot, in the venus moon post. It was proposed to have a small astoride impact venus at very high speeds to create a moon and release water from the mantil. As a side effect the impactor penitrated almost to the cores center. As a side effect the surface down to core trun liquid. This has a effect of making a moon, bring subsurface water to the surface and blasting away many bars of atmosphere. Also the is tilted to greater angle close to earths angle. Spin is increased to to 23 hour day and night. On Mars a smaller hit could easily reheat mars and gas out many bars of water, nitrogen, and CO2. The surface may be a molten sea of lava. But once it cooled the be a thin crust, more colling would allow water to condense out to form onceans. With a small new moon around mars there will be tides. And the angle mars would be stable like earths is due to its moon. Solar blinds could helps Mars cool of in a few thounsand years. For millions of years after Mars will be a dynamic planet like the earth. With plate tectonics, tides, completle mineral and gas cyles will help keep a stable like on the earth. Once Mars has cooled down with a thin crust and oceans terrafornimg of earth life can start. Bateria and algea will creat oxgen. The solar shade could be open to let light back to mars once it has cooled enough for liquid water to exist in oceans. This would a new mars with new terrean, but it could support life for billions of years with out man help to controle the climate on the old mar would need to be stable. Life could evlove long after man has lost interst in mars.

#97 Re: Terraformation » Speed Bumps to Terraforming (Anywhere) » 2005-06-20 12:56:08

I think envirnomentalist will protest even people going to Mars, they think that people are bad and by being there make a place evil. They rather keep Man on the earth to save a small dead planet. Most envirnomentalist are insane years of liberal lies have made them think that humans are evil and should be removed from the earth too.
Also Mars has  high radiation at its surface due to the lack of a magnetic sphere, and a very thin air. A few nukes at the poles or under ground would not increase the radation danger to people very little. But metor impacts at high speed could easly provide the same heat or stir up dust as nukes could.
The bigest road block to terraforming Mars would be envirnomentalist. Easily sloved by not bring them to mars.

#98 Re: Not So Free Chat » top 99 games worldwide - which do YOU rate? » 2005-05-06 10:25:57

Those games are out dated and not very good, the best games are: Sim city 4, Civ 3, and simant.
You sim very old fasioned maybe you should go play your out dated games and stop bragging about it. I mean the best game out their is gta San Andres hands down one of the best games ever made.

#99 Re: Terraformation » Titan Terraformation - Is it possible? » 2005-04-13 10:22:49

Please stay away from titan, it is such a good moon. It is the only moon witha thicker atmosphere thans earths, it has a methan cycle of rain rivers and lakes. Why destory such a good place when the same resource can be easly found on near by astriods and moons. An way when the sun becomes a red gaint it will melt the ice crust of many moons. Because oif their low gravity they will loss their atmospheres they got from the thaw. But Titan for a few millions of years will bi one gaint water world. The same thing will happen to jupitors large 2 outer moons but only for a short while. Mars it self will warm up a lot before becoming an venus like place of hot temps and thick atmosphere. Towards the end of the suns red gaint stage the HZ will move all the way to Neptune and Uranus. Where the big planets will loss a lot of their hydrgen in their atmosphere, creating a huge water worl with atmospheres of He, N2, and O2. The moons like triton will thaw out too to mini water worlds. Pluto long in the dark will thaw when it crosses neptune orbit. The solar wind in the red gaint phase will be very strong small gas gaints heated up by the red sun will be unablle too hold on to hydrogen and will loss it. Life could develop in the new worlds of the red gaint sun.

#100 Re: Terraformation » Insulate Mars at Night - Reduce escaping Heat » 2005-04-08 11:19:04

The best way to insulate mars at night is with a thicker atmosphere. Even .50 bar would make a big difference, coulds and oceans also would prevent the rapid drop in temp at night on mars. On earth desert have 20f day to night temp changes, on cloudy days it just 5-10f changes. Near the ocean or tropics the change might just be 1f form night to day. So what mars really needs to be more earth like is to be more earth like its self. So Terrafroming to different degrees will inprove the insulations on mars.

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