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#576 Re: Unmanned probes » Gaia - ESA billion star survey satellite » 2005-06-14 13:23:40

Gaia making a map of over a billion stars
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object … ctid=37532
Gaia CCD
create the largest and most precise three dimensional chart of our Galaxy by providing unprecedented positional and radial velocity measurements for about one billion stars in our Galaxy and throughout the Local Group.
http://www.sharecast.com/cgi-bin/sharec … _id=492947
distance estimates limit will be considerably greater than 1,000 ly. With a measuring accuracy of about 4 microarcseconds, Gaia will observe at the L2 point which is located directly behind the Earth as seen from the Sun, the baseline is as usual, the diameter of Earth's orbit. It's just that the spacecraft is extremely accurate, it should be able to determine the distance to stars with 1% accuracy out to 2500 pc, or almost 8200 l.y. The 10% accuracy distance would be ten times farther, or 25 kpc.
http://www.esa.int/esaSC/SEMC7L1DU8E_in … dex_0.html
http://www.newscientistspace.com/channe … ech/dn7511
Gaia's goal is to perform the largest census of our Galaxy and build a highly accurate 3D map. The satellite will determine the position, colour and true motion of one thousand million stars and over 100,000 objects in our Solar System. Gaia will also identify as many as 10,000 planets around other stars.

To accomplish this ambitious task, Gaia requires the largest focal plane of charged couple devices (CCDs) ever built for space application.

#577 Re: Not So Free Chat » New Planet Discovered! - Most like our own » 2005-06-13 21:27:52

*One out of 155.  Will be interesting to see how quickly the ratio might (or might not) change.

you mean 1 out of 155 are non Gas-giants Cindy

There might be many more if you chck the web, 55 Cancri was called to have a new class of planets dubbed Super Earth to be discovered and are about the mass of Uranus or Neptune and may be rocky terrestrial worlds with thick atmospheres,  a planet orbiting mu Arae with a mass of approximately 14 times that of the Earth and a microlensing event in 96 of a quasar led to a speculation that a 3 Earth mass planet is possibly in the unknown lensing galaxy, between Earth and the quasar, some other newly found planets are small like 15 Earth masses such as the Gliese 436 system. There are pulsar planets, which aren't really extra solar systems as pulsars are unlikely to have what astronomers are looking for in their planet quest but Pulsar 1257-plus12 is thought to have an object about the size of an big asteroid or large comet orbiting it....
http://vo.obspm.fr/exoplanetes/encyclo/ … pulsar.php
our detection methods are getting better all the time

#578 Re: Unmanned probes » Magnetospheric MultiScale (MMS) mission - Earth's magnetic field study » 2005-06-12 20:38:47

somewhat related study

the ESA Europeans and Chinese have been working together on a mission

Double Star is operating alongside ESA’s Cluster mission and is studying closely the interaction between the solar wind and Earth’s magnetic field. Together with Cluster

http://www.cnsa.gov.cn/english/index.as … /index.asp
http://www.esa.int/esaSC/SEM45Z5TI8E_in … dex_0.html
http://www.cast.cn/en/ShowArticle.asp?A … icleID=530
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object … ctid=37120

The two spacecraft and the instruments are operating nominally. The magnetometer data are used to derive the attitude of the spacecraft. The satellite manufacturer, CAST, has made a model of the evolution of the attitude of the two spacecraft.

it would be great for UNH scientists to do more work and for the MMS craft to bne sent on the Delta rocket

#579 Re: Unmanned probes » James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) - 6.5m mirror, L2 orbit » 2005-05-20 03:26:24

Orbiting at a distance of about 1 million miles, would place it where? I could look it up I suppose, but you all seem to be up to speed on it already, so ...

some want to chop this mission down like the  plans like Prometheus, Mars Science Lander were significantly cut or delayed, Voyager might be gone and Geotail, FAST are in trouble


they are trying to chop it down a bit, $1 billion cost overrun, may need to be scaled down, Northrop Grumman says construction to cost $309 million more than expected and new NASA accounting rules add another $100 million
JWST might not go anwhere

will this add more fuel to the save-Hubble plan ?

a link here

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/f … 8/5724/935

:hm:

#580 Re: Human missions » NASA 2006 Budget » 2005-05-14 14:46:28

NASA have been great in the past, they have done some of the most wonderful and fantastic missions

but things are looking messy lately

Ulysses is under threat but the Euros may keep their side going on ESA work, the NASA Terrestrial Planet Finder, ISS research has been axed down. It is said some body is going to shut these Voyager programs down. The unstable dollar, costs of the serch for WMDs in Iraq, and the whitehouse running up huge debts is hurting the US economy. NASA has revised their plans like Prometheus, Mars Science Lander were significantly cut or delayed.
Many can forgive the Hubble deal with a little pain and sorrow, but some of these latest cuts are madness. The people who have been working for these past years on Polar, Wind, Geotail, FAST (Fast Auroral SnapshoT) and TRACE (Transition Region and Coronal Explorer)) were told from NASA there is now no money to keep their projects operating

I hope things work out ok

#581 Re: Unmanned probes » Mars Express (MEX) - ESA orbiter » 2005-05-09 19:44:59

*I saw a headline to the effect that deployment of MARSIS will be delayed; danged if I can find it now. 

-*-

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Expres … tml]Crater Holden and Uzboi Vallis

I like the "context" map.  :up: 

Due to a layer of haze close to the base of Holden, the area within the crater appears lighter coloured and slightly less detailed than the surrounding area.

A small, dark dune-field can be seen in the eastern half of the crater floor. It indicates the role of wind in the morphological evolution of Crater Holden.

Lots of smaller craters within Holden.  Its central mount is partially hidden/covered by sediments.  I wonder how tall/high that central mount would be.

wow that's amazing stuff :up:

must be some of the best photos I've seen yet  cool   

thank you for the update

:band:

Pity the MARSIS will be delayed  sad  why is it delayed now  ?

#582 Re: Unmanned probes » Mars Express (MEX) - ESA orbiter » 2005-04-29 10:42:02

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Expres … l]Networks of knotted gold...

*The Aureum Chaos region.  The upclose perspective shots are excellent too.  Lots of info in the article, pertaining to geography and etc. 

ME is doing a terrific job.

Especially interesting about the "slump and collapse blocks."  This is in the eastern portion of Valles Marineris.

--Cindy

::EDIT::

Near the southern border (middle left-hand side) of the colour image, a roughly five kilometre-wide region of bright material is observed. This material appears to form distinct layers that may have been created by the evaporation of fluids or by hydrothermal activity...

great info and pictures
that Aureum Chaos region looks fantastic
smile




Here are some more  big_smile
http://www.esa.int/images/169-150105-08 … ...a_L.jpg
bigfile high-res
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/mar … ...res.jpg


http://www.esa.int/images/172-150105-08 … ...a_L.jpg
another mega pic with detail
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/mar … ...res.jpg

The displayed region is located at the beginning of the canyon system at about latitude 5° South and longitude 280° East. North is to the right of the image.

Tithonium Chasma extends roughly from east to west and runs parallel to Ius Chasma.

UT story
http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish … ...rs.html

other info and pics from Express
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Expres … ESD_0.html




smile

#583 Re: Unmanned probes » Cassini-Huygens - NASA/ESA Saturn orbiter & Titan lander » 2005-04-29 05:04:11

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.htm … 75]Another view of Epimetheus

Is false color.  They've officially named a few of the features on this moon (I'm trying to recall an article I read a month or two ago, pertaining to one of Saturn's moons being honored with the distinction of craters on it named by the IAU, but can't recall *which* of Saturn's moons that was)...anyway, the reddish feature (crater) in the lower left portion of Epimetheus is named "Pollux."  The large crater towards the "bottom" (photo has been rotated) has been dubbed Hilairea.

what a fantastic view of the Moon from Cassini

great picture Cindy

too bad we haven't been updated on the Titan data from the Cassini-Huygens Lander

#585 Re: Human missions » Japan Eyes Future Manned Moon Base, Space Shuttle » 2005-04-29 04:01:22

Poor Japan and the Japanese also had a dreadfulcrash and the toll climbs to 103 according to Daily Telegraph Australia , seems the Government made a stupid response much like it did during the Kobe Quake disaster


According to space dot com the NASDA or JAXA is in trouble because of the big cuts and stagnant economy, "If the present rates of decline continue, the space program will collapse," said Keiji Tachikawa, a former private sector executive who assumed leadership of the space agency, known as JAXA, four months ago. "We are almost in a crisis situation."

#586 Re: Not So Free Chat » Missiles vs Science/Astronomy Rockets » 2005-04-27 11:18:59

This is the old question about if a knife is a weapon or a tool.
For rockets, the launcher part is often the same, whether it carries a scientific payload or a warhead, so it's really difficult to draw a line between the two. Personally I have no problem with military information included, what is really important about it is what it's used for. Pacifists often forget that people like Hitler haven't been stopped by peace movements.

*Hi.  To me, this isn't about pacifists or Hitler.

I like reading astronomy articles without articles about weapons alongside.

--Cindy

Well I suppose when you go back to the early days much of the work and space science was really connected to the military, the Russians were putting stuff up from modified ICBMs, the USA had gotten a bit of a bonus when they took Von Braun who the Nazi used to build V2 rockets and bomb London, everyone wanted more spy satellites, while the Chinese were keen on testing their atomic bombs and Mao wanted to place East Is Red propaganda satellites in orbit


Well of course now things have changed, the Russians are very friendly with the USA and they do good trade, Europe no longer has an Iron curtain and Chinese have a steady and strong economic and poltical working relationship with the West

Also things have changed greatly in Space science, NASA is doing great with Mars, the Europeans are building ion-drive craft like Smart one, plus we have Rutan's Spaceshipone, Russian Space tourism, and a possible private mission to pluto, and there have been many extra solar planets smaller than Jupiter found outside our Solar System, and there are new space telescopes like JWST, Gaia, Corot and Kelper planned for the future, so the nature of space exploration has changed.

#588 Re: Unmanned probes » Cassini-Huygens - NASA/ESA Saturn orbiter & Titan lander » 2005-04-27 10:58:58

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/science/moon … .cfm]Moons Section Now Online

*Everything you wanted to know about Saturn's Moons but were afraid to ask.   :;):

Wonderful resource.  Thanks, NASA.

--Cindy

Thanks for that great link  smile

#589 Re: Unmanned probes » Cassini-Huygens - NASA/ESA Saturn orbiter & Titan lander » 2005-04-10 16:55:01

some more on CassiniHuygens

http://ciclops.lpl.arizona.edu/media/ir … 2300_1.jpg

This view of Titan uncovers new territory not previously imaged at moderate resolution by Cassini’s cameras. The view is a composite of four nearly identical wide angle camera images, all taken using a filter sensitive to wavelengths of infrared light centered at 939 nanometers. The individual images have been combined and contrast enhanced in such a way as to sharpen surface features and enhance overall brightness variations.

Some of the territory in this view was covered by observations made by the RADAR SAR experiment

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 … 160348.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 … 003701.htm

smile

#590 Re: Unmanned probes » Cassini-Huygens - NASA/ESA Saturn orbiter & Titan lander » 2005-04-09 19:56:05

Don't know if any of these images or info were posted already so ignore if you've seen it

some great key events and fly-bys coming

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Cassini-Huy … QUD_0.html

movie from Cassini shows significant changes in the shapes of features in the outer haze layers of Titan's atmosphere
http://ciclops.lpl.arizona.edu/media/ir … 2324_0.gif


Moon Enceladus
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/i … ...071.jpg

Cassini's cameras got their best view to date of the region east of the bright Xanadu Regio. This mosaic consists of several frames taken by the narrow angle camera (smaller frames) mosaicked together with an image taken by the wide angle camera filling in the background.

http://ciclops.lpl.arizona.edu/media/ir … 2316_1.jpg

rugged surface of Saturn's irregular tumbling moon Hyperion taken by the CassiniHuygens mothership
http://ciclops.lpl.arizona.edu/media/dr … 2017_1.jpg

big_smile

#591 Re: Unmanned probes » Mars Express (MEX) - ESA orbiter » 2005-04-09 19:42:56

I was able to view thumbsized images but couldn't get beyond that.  Anyways, I was most interested in the perspective photos.  Are they on that database?

haven't seen them all yet

There also are pdfs from the Mars Express Conference
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object … ctid=36537
Mars Express Conference Presentations

Here's some more
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMOBUV797E_in … dex_0.html
European space scientists have strongly recommended a mission equipped with a Rover

#592 Re: Unmanned probes » Mars Express (MEX) - ESA orbiter » 2005-03-31 07:12:02

having a closer look it seems the data isn't so large perhaps just around 200 Gigs

#593 Re: Unmanned probes » Mars Express (MEX) - ESA orbiter » 2005-03-30 07:35:58

great pictures of Medusa  Fossae   big_smile


There seems to be a huge bulk of data available to the public, data you can enter an archive link near the top left but must register before retrieving datasets, http://www.rssd.esa.int/index.php?proje … roject=PSA they seem to be huge, GigaBites of Megbytes of Gigas of data  :hm:

#594 Re: Human missions » Japan Eyes Future Manned Moon Base, Space Shuttle » 2005-03-26 05:31:42

I am going to throw flags on the field... There is no way Japan could afford this, they have a shrinking population, an economy that pretty much hasnt grown in 15 years,  and government deficits and debts larger than the USA despite being 2/5ths our size....

it would be great to see Japan do this

but Japanese have much worse economic trouble and cost cutting than NASA faces with the Bush Economy

Japan is approaching its financial limits. Government debt already exceeds 130 percent of GDP

The decade of stagnation and deflation has left Japan's financial sector saddled with trillions of dollars in bad debts that are growing more rapidly than they can be written off.

Japan's struggling lunar programme is plagued by money shortages and technical hitches, the country's space officials say

Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's drive to curb public debt may further reduce consumer spending this year as the government cancels construction projects and increases income taxes and pension contributions. The government predicts the public debt will rise to 151 percent of GDP

Japan's space programme has faced a series of setbacks since the mid-1990s, including a spate of launch failures.
The launch of Japan's Lunar-A mission intended to shed light on the moon's origin and evolution using a module to land on its surface was set for August 2004 but no new date has been set

some say they have lost a Quadrillion of yen
Add in other liabilities such as unfunded pensions, other public-sector debts, and contingent liabilities such as government guarantees for troubled medium-sized companies then the number grows to well above 300 percent of GDP. Goldman Sachs’ vice chairman for Asia estimated debt to be above 400 percent.
Japan's next generation domestic rocket, the H2-A, capable of carrying about four tonne satellites, has had five successful launches despite various mechanical failures and delays.
From spacedaily :
"Another source of worry is money. Due to the current financial condition of Japan, funds have dried up. A year ago, we proposed a SELENE-II but the committee never cleared it"
Japan's space budget was cut by 0.01 percent in 2004 to 273.2 billion yen (2.7 billion dollars) from 2003, a space agency official  said.
Some people remark Japan’s economy will simply collapse

Let's hope Japan can fix this

#595 Re: Human missions » The need for a Moon direct *2* - ...continue here. » 2005-03-22 05:13:28

as posted by Michael Bloxham
NASA has come out with some plans on Moon first

Quote
The Moon and Mars have a lot in common

http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish … ml?2132005

smile
see also the U today story
Science@NASA Article

#596 Re: Space Policy » Space fairing Nations - The ever changing view » 2005-03-22 05:11:07

ESA and Indians may be looking at joint lunar efforts

seems like a good idea

#597 Re: Human missions » Mars? Moon first. - Mars is too hard and dangerous for now. » 2005-03-22 03:18:58

Here is a bit more on it
quote
"The Moon is a natural first step," explains Philip Metzger, a physicist at NASA Kennedy Space Center. "It's nearby. We can practice living, working and doing science there before taking longer and riskier trips to Mars."

The Moon and Mars have a lot in common. The Moon has only one-sixth Earth's gravity; Mars has one-third. The Moon has no atmosphere; the Martian atmosphere is highly rarefied. The Moon can get very cold, as low as -240o C in shadows; Mars varies between -20o and -100o C.
Even more important, both planets are covered with silt-fine dust, called "regolith." The Moon's regolith was created by the ceaseless bombardment of micrometeorites, cosmic rays and particles of solar wind breaking down rocks for billions of years. Martian regolith resulted from the impacts of more massive meteorites and even asteroids, plus ages of daily erosion from water and wind. There are places on both worlds where the regolith is 10+ meters deep.

Operating mechanical equipment in the presence of so much dust is a formidable challenge. Just last month, Metzger co-chaired a meeting on the topic: "Granular Materials in Lunar and Martian Exploration," held at the Kennedy Space Center. Participants grappled with issues ranging from basic transportation ("What kind of tires does a Mars buggy need?") to mining ("How deep can you dig before the hole collapses?") to dust storms--both natural and artificial ("How much dust will a landing rocket kick up?").

Answering these questions on Earth isn't easy. Moondust and Mars dust is so ... alien.
Try this: Run your finger across the screen of your computer. You'll get a little residue of dust clinging to your fingertip. It's soft and fuzzy--that's Earth dust.
Lunar dust is different: "It's almost like fragments of glass or coral--odd shapes that are very sharp and interlocking," says Metzger
"Even after short moon walks, Apollo 17 astronauts found dust particles had jammed the shoulder joints of their spacesuits," says Masami Nakagawa, associate professor in the mining engineering department of the Colorado School of Mines. "Moondust penetrated into seals, causing the spacesuits to leak some air pressure."

In sunlit areas, adds Nakagawa, fine dust levitated above the Apollo astronauts' knees and even above their heads, because individual particles were electrostatically charged by the Sun's ultraviolet light. Such dust particles, when tracked into the astronauts' habitat where they would become airborne, irritated their eyes and lungs. "It's a potentially serious problem."

Dust is also ubiquitous on Mars, although Mars dust is probably not as sharp as moondust. Weathering smooths the edges. Nevertheless, Martian duststorms whip these particles 50 m/s (100+ mph), scouring and wearing every exposed surface. As the rovers Spirit and Opportunity have revealed, Mars dust (like moondust) is probably electrically charged. It clings to solar panels, blocks sunlight and reduces the amount of power that can be generated for a surface mission.
For these reasons, NASA is funding Nakagawa's Project Dust, a four-year study dedicated to finding ways of mitigating the effects of dust on robotic and human exploration, ranging from designs of air filters to thin-film coatings that repel dust from spacesuits and machinery.

see the NASA website

#598 Re: Unmanned probes » Mars Express (MEX) - ESA orbiter » 2005-03-22 03:11:22

Thanks, YLR!
    That last picture was excellent (you were right about the file size! ).  smile

    Makes you wonder whether we should be switching the Mars Polar Lander to somewhere like this or, better yet, the 'frozen sea' in Elysium. Then we could establish the presence of shallow sub-surface ice and accelerate the crewed expedition timetable.
    (Perhaps even to the point where the first expedition lands before I drop dead .. instead of years afterwards!!!  :realllymad:  )

first expedition, who knows - let's hope it can happen

http://www.thespacesite.com/community/i … topic=1779

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.htm … ?pid=16441

same topic and crater with a bit more info  cool

#599 Re: Human missions » ESA - Aurora Program » 2005-03-21 03:29:56

60 days of bed-rest for terrestrial female astronauts

Since Saturday, 19 March, the study entitled Women International Space Simulation for Exploration (WISE) has been fully under way.

http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMAXJRMD6E_in … dex_0.html

ESA has created an information website on WISE at: http://spaceflight.esa.int/wise]http:// … a.int/wise

#600 Re: Unmanned probes » MESSENGER - Mercury Orbiter » 2005-03-21 03:27:34

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n050 … gnetometer boom deployed

*All went well.  :up:  The "flip" went as planned too.

very good  big_smile

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