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#26 Re: Terraformation » Can Mars stay terraformed? » 2004-08-06 13:53:37

Hello,

I'm no expert on economics, but I doubt that it would be economically healthy if the government took to such print and spend tactics. That could cause a run on the dollar and people would lose confidence in it. Remember, yes the U.S. dollar has value because the U.S. Congress says it does, but public confidence must be there in order for the dollar to be acceptable. The U.S. dollar hasn't been backed by gold since 1933, so the dollar really has no intrinsic value, only the value imparted to it by public confidence and the decree of the U.S. Congress.

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#27 Re: Terraformation » Funding for terraforming » 2004-08-06 09:51:48

Hello,

I've read a few papers and a novel in which terraforming has been an issue. My question is: Where would the funding for a terraforming project come from? Since terraforming would take generations, I imagine that interest for private investment would be rather lukewarm without the anticipation of a quick return on the money invested. Would the money have to come from funds donated by national governments with interest in a terraformed Mars, perhaps like United Nations dues?

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#28 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Colonial Policy: Direct Rule or Home Rule? » 2004-08-05 06:36:19

Hello,

Actually, I have to admit that the ISS program is doing worthwhile science towards possible manned deep-space exploration and applied research, such as commercial applications and Earth sciences. Call me a hopeless romantic, but I hope to see a human on Mars or a return of manned missions to the Moon before I die. Sorry for my last post.  sad

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#29 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Colonial Policy: Direct Rule or Home Rule? » 2004-08-04 16:20:55

Hello,

So far, it seems like all the world's space programs are waiting for a strong goal to materialize. All these different space powers are simply squatting in LEO, doing studies, writing papers and making proposals while the political will simply isn't there to do anything serious in space. Oh, there are the unmanned missions to Saturn, Mercury, Mars and near-Earth space. It seems to me that is either make-work or it's some preliminary work to a more extensive exploration program.

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#30 Re: Terraformation » Can Mars stay terraformed? » 2004-08-02 18:08:29

Hello,

I remember seeing a documentary on the possibilities of terraforming Mars. The problem as the program stated was that Mars' gravity is too weak to retain any atmosphere that humans could engineer. That in a sense, Mars would be a leaky bag, seeping air and heat into space. Is that possible?

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#31 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Will Mars revitalize Terran society? » 2004-08-02 18:04:37

Hello,

It would be interesting to see what we humans do with the Solar System. big_smile

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#32 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Colonial Policy: Direct Rule or Home Rule? » 2004-08-02 06:32:50

Hello,

Hmmmm. Good points, Republic. Beach has a good point, though. Larger cities generate more graft and corruption than smaller communities, though smaller communities still have it. A smaller community would have a better quality of life overall. IMHO.

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#33 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Will Mars revitalize Terran society? » 2004-08-02 06:24:43

Hello,

I'll try to find the website on which I found that paper. As to the demographic threat, governments and the market would have to acknowledge that the common worker could always go to Mars, if they don't like the working/social conditions here on Earth. That was how it might have been, analogically speaking, for home countries in the 16th to 20th centuries. It is not a foregone conclusion that all or even a substantial majority of nations could afford to set up Mars colonies.

As for the crystallization of society here on Earth, I see it in the greater and greater role that governments play in the economic/social sphere. Also, I see it in the apathy that many younger people have towards the democractic process. It seems to me that people are just accepting greater invasion of their lives by government and corporate data collection and the manipulation of that data, thereby. What disturbs me as well is the invasive role that government could play in the national defense from terrorism.

The government here, IMHO, is tearing up the U.S. Constitution in order to protect it's citizens from international terrorism. Most people here are welcoming it. All this because the technology allows a government the ability to monitor the population and gauge/manipulate public image. There's really no room for peaceful and gradual social development in a closed system.

In a closed system, I mean that a society would have no place where social forces could be given free play where otherwise, it would be could become divisive and catastrophic to the system. An example is medieval Europe.  In a closed society without frontiers, the primary social impetus is towards maintaining the status quo. Stability becomes the overriding focus. 

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#34 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Will Mars revitalize Terran society? » 2004-08-01 06:22:44

Hello,

I recently read a paper by Dr. Zubrin that postulated that by opening up a Martian frontier, can society on Earth be saved from a crystallization that could eventually kill democractic society as we know it. But would it? From what I remember of history, colonies were settled by two different methods. One was by direct government control and support, like the use of colonial Australia as a penal colony by Britain and the settlement of Quebec by pre-Revolution France.

The other was by private enterprise or private parties, such as the New Netherlands colony by the Dutch and the Puritan colonies in Massachusetts. But what makes these colonies different from any prospective Martian colony is the degree of isolation from the parent government and that these Earth colonies could subsist without substantial and necessary support from home. A third point of contention is that national governments and multinational corporations would be sending colonists to Mars. Wouldn't that make sure that things in the Martian colonies would go just as the big interests on Earth would have it?

All have to admit, though, his point on the value of labor and that governments would have to contend with the threat of demographic drain to Mars could be a boon for the folks left on the homeworld.

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#35 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » ESA Space Program » 2004-07-27 16:22:15

Hello,

I've heard about the Aurora program. Does anyone know what the mission plan for that one is? I'll try to dig up something on it online.

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#36 Re: Life support systems » Arcology settlements » 2004-07-27 16:18:25

Hello,

I've read Red Mars, but not any of the sequels. I've been trying to figure out what Hiroko Ai was trying to do. So far, no luck. Though, I think she had some sort of revisionist theory that incorporated humans living in harmony with a terraformed Mars.

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#37 Re: Life support systems » Arcology settlements » 2004-07-26 20:56:21

Hello,

I have read Soleri's theory ( It's an interesting idea. ) on that and thought maybe arcologies might be an option.

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#38 Re: Planetary transportation » Jet engines on Mars » 2004-07-26 20:52:16

Hello,

Since I read Red Mars back in 1997, I wondered if it was even possible for jet-powered aircraft to fly on Mars. I remember that the colonists in the novel used jet airminers to refine gases from the atmosphere. But, since the Martian atmosphere has only a 1/1000th of the air pressure of Earth at sea level, can a jet grab enough air to generate the needed thrust?

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#39 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Psychiatric problems » 2004-07-25 19:35:43

Hello,

Wow, didn't know that the Russians insisted on keeping a gun aboard the ISS. Does anyone know if there were any similar sleeping problems for the Apollo crews on the Moon? Why does microgravity affect sleeping so much? Does microgravity alter the neurochemicals that regulate sleep in the brain?

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#40 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Psychiatric problems » 2004-07-25 17:01:49

Hello,

I have read before that both the U.S. and Russian space programs had devoted research towards the physiological effect of microgravity on humans. But, have there been any research on the effect psychologically that spaceflight has on humans? Have there been any identified psychiatric problems in manned spaceflight?

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#41 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Ion Engines » 2004-07-25 16:16:35

Hello,

Cool. So, the impulse of an engine is it's seconds of thrust per pound of fuel. It seems to me that higher the impulse, lower the thrust and conversely higher the thrust, lower the impulse. How quickly would a VASIMR engine propel a manned mission to Mars?

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#42 Re: Life support systems » Arcology settlements » 2004-07-24 19:49:26

Hello,

I'm curious to see if arcology type settlements would be practical, given the wild Martian climate.

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#43 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Engine Terms » 2004-07-24 19:46:37

Hello,

I'm unsure of what the terms of Isp or impulse mean in relation to the measurement of engine power. Could someone please explain these terms to me in a clear manner. It would help in understanding the differences in engine systems. Thank you.

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#44 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Ion Engines » 2004-07-24 19:23:46

Hello,

Well, I remember reading in a sci-fi RPG that ion engines could be used to propel manned spacecraft. But, the downside was that ion engines couldn't produce the necessary amount of thrust in a short enough time to achieve escape velocity. About plasma rockets, how do these rockets generate thrust? Do they use some form of high energy physics to produce plasma and force the resulting plasma out of an exhaust nozzle?

Could plasma rockets be practical enough for use aboard manned spacecraft? What speeds ( Like miles per second ) can these rockets achieve? Also, I believe the Outer Space Treaty of 1967 prohibits the use of fission reactors in space. Could be wrong.

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#45 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Ion Engines » 2004-07-24 06:28:25

Hello,

I remember hearing about how ion engines could produce better and more sustained acceleration than chemical rockets can. Though the downside is that chemical rockets can attain escape velocity, while ion engines can't. NASA has recently flown some probes with ion engines aboard in recent years. How would ion engines compare with plasma rockets and chemical rockets?

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#46 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Station Sizes » 2004-07-22 17:37:23

Hello,

I'm curious: What radius does a station require before it can rotate to the rpms that produce 1 G?

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#47 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Colonial Policy: Direct Rule or Home Rule? » 2004-07-22 16:14:48

Hello,

Well, at least with myself, I wasn't assuming that any Mars colony would be American. I was merely using U.S. history as a model for my question as to which direction colonial policy should be taken. I'd be happy if anyone set up a colony there. I'd prefer a multinational approach to the colonization of Mars.

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#48 Re: Intelligent Alien Life » First Contact » 2004-07-22 09:47:17

Hello,

Recently, I've seen a History Channel program that talked about the possible first contact protocols developed by governments and private groups. I'd like to know what you folks think would be a good first contact procedure, assuming that an alien civilization would send an embassy team to Earth in the near future.

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#49 Re: Human missions » Landing Sites » 2004-07-22 09:38:07

Hello,

Has there been any talk of potential landing sites for the ESA/NASA manned Mars missions?

Cordially,

EarthWolf

#50 Re: Civilization and Culture » Domestic vs Industrial » 2004-07-22 09:27:10

Hello,

Well, if anyone doesn't mind, I'd like to put my two cents into the pot. I've studied the history of the European colonial/imperial period. I've seen in these years that the driving force behind European colonialism was primarily economic. I feel that the only way a Mars colony would be started, remember that funding/backing is the key, is if there is a substantial economic benefit to the colonial venture.

That's one reason why we don't have orbital factories and Moon bases right now. Too much cost and not enough profit to justify the investment. As for the economic basis for a Mars colony, I'd say that the colony would need to establish an industrial infrastructure to maintain it's own needs and possibly compete with Earth in the interplanetary market. Especially if the colonists intend to gain their political/economic, as well as, practical independence from Earth governments.

I'm not a pro-industrial person. I'm probably what you might call an environmentalist and humanist. So I don't advocate a wholesale industrialization at the cost of humanity and the environment. I just try to think and weigh the options with a balanced, common sense approach.

Cordially,

EarthWolf

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