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#451 Re: Unmanned probes » Mars Global Surveyor Not Responding » 2006-11-11 05:00:21

The space agency's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena lost contact with the probe for two days last week, then received a weak carrier signal with no data on Sunday. Since then, Surveyor has not confirmed receiving a command to point one of its transmitters to Earth, project manager Tom Thorpe said.
...

http://www.physorg.com/news82441517.html

#453 Re: Meta New Mars » Spammer » 2006-11-10 22:57:36

May be a sign-up notice like this would help:

Attention spammers: any links you post will be submitted to abuse@google.com for removal from their database.  A single post here will ruin your entire campaign.

Of course, it won't help if they don't speak english.

#454 Re: Meta New Mars » Spammer » 2006-11-10 04:48:25

Dreaded Christmas spammer ...

http://www.newmars.com/forums/profile.p … ile&u=1898

( now that really is rude, everyone knows you're not supposed to advertise Christmas stuff until after Thanksgiving )

#457 Re: Human missions » It's Official the Moon is not the Future of Colonization » 2006-11-09 03:29:55

"A review of the lunar polar ice controversy, how it will be resolved, and what it means to our return to the Moon"

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.nl.html?id=1170

( long article )

#458 Re: Not So Free Chat » Froggy's » 2006-11-09 00:49:51

Then you must certainly agree the Israel is more tollerant of other peoples beliefs than the Islamic countries surrounding it.

Except perhaps for Deputy PM Avigdor Lieberman's recent call for ethnic cleansing?

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/D … y/9793.htm

#459 Re: Meta New Mars » Spammer » 2006-11-07 23:20:23

Spammer selling spam software ( I think these are the worst type, although the scam artists are a close second ) ...

http://www.newmars.com/forums/profile.p … ile&u=1883

#460 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Titan » 2006-11-07 03:27:27

Early Earth haze may have spurred life, says University of Colorado study
http://www.physorg.com/news82056355.html

...
The researchers mimicked Titan's hazy skies by exposing methane gas to an ultraviolet lamp, then added carbon dioxide gas to the mix to see if conditions that were probably present on early Earth would produce a similar organic haze. "It turns out that organic haze can form over a wide range of methane and carbon dioxide concentrations," said Tolbert. "This means that hazy conditions could have been present for many millions or even a billion years on Earth while life was evolving."
...
According to the study, a similar haze hanging over Earth early in its history could have supplied more than 100 million tons of organic material to the planet's surface each year. "As these particles settled out of the skies, they would have provided a global source of food for living organisms," said Trainer.
...
In addition to serving as a source of organic material, a haze layer over Earth could have shielded living organisms from harmful UV rays and helped to regulate Earth's early climate, according to the study.
...

#461 Re: Intelligent Alien Life » Militia On Mars » 2006-11-07 01:12:07

<mod> Sorry Benther, you annoyed the punters.  Off to Intelligent Alien Life you go. </mod>

#462 Re: Not So Free Chat » Bow Down Before Iran? » 2006-11-06 18:47:31

I think in any case, you can say that George Bush gave it his all to make Iraq a success.

Really?  The kindest word his closest allies have for him is incompetent.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/feat … cons200612

According to Perle, who left the Defense Policy Board in 2004, this unfolding catastrophe has a central cause: devastating dysfunction within the administration of President George W. Bush. Perle says, "The decisions did not get made that should have been. They didn't get made in a timely fashion, and the differences were argued out endlessly.… At the end of the day, you have to hold the president responsible"

#463 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Fishsticks: RIP 2048? » 2006-11-06 00:55:36

Is there any reason all our seafood coundn't be provided with aquaculture?

I think the main criticisms mirror those for intensive farming practices in other sectors - crowded conditions, high levels of effluent, high levels of drugs to keep the animals alive in crowded conditions.  That sort of thing.  I think with fish farming there is also the concern of farm-escaped fish outbreeding the wild fish and reducing biodiversity.

Article on a "blue revolution" company trying to address some of these issues ...
 
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor … Id=5291579

#465 Re: Not So Free Chat » Current Gasoline/Petrol Price$ » 2006-11-05 15:28:05

I remember an environmentalist call for $50/barrel to spur renewables investment - well they got their wish.  Hurts the poor disproportionately though - not just in higher gas prices since most goods need oil for transport - it's like an extra GST.

#467 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Space Ring to Stop Global Warming? » 2006-11-05 02:09:38

The Stern Report puts the cost of curbing global warming at $450 billion per year for the foreseeable future.

While widely criticized ...

Bjorn Lomborg
The dodgy numbers behind the latest warming scare
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110009182

Nigel Lawson
An Appeal to Reason
http://www.cps.org.uk/cpsfile.asp?id=641
(PDF, 100 kB)

... the fact is that this has become a point of faith with the public at large and will thus likely result in large new taxes.

A (mere) $100 billion / year project has been proposed ...

A Sunshade for Planet Earth
http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/co … 006/1031/3

... in case emergency measures are required to counter abrupt climate change.

The space ring (top of this thread) is even cheaper, but with this sort of money up for grabs, why not go for global climate control?  Longer growing seasons, shorter winters, fewer hurricanes.  Not only would global GDP damage be prevented, but it would be enhanced.

#468 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Fishsticks: RIP 2048? » 2006-11-04 18:22:34

How much fish is actually fished these days anyways though?

I thought this was an excellent question.  This powerpoint has a lot of interesting information on the subject ...

http://aquanic.org/images/slides/World% … 202006.ppt

Apparently, 35% of all seafood now comes from aquaculture.  I didn't realise the proportion was so high.  "Wild capture" has remained basically steady for at least the last 10 years, with aquaculture making up the difference.

Top ten wild fishers in millions of metric tons ...

1. China              16,756,000
2. Peru               6,090,000
3. USA                4,939,000
4. Indonesia                      4,675,000
5. Japan                4,596,000
6. India                3,689,000
7. Chile               3,622,000
8. Russian Fed           3,281,000
9. Thailand               2,817,000   
10. Norway               2,550,000

I had no idea fishing was such a huge industry for Peru.

China is also first in aquaculture, by a long shot.  India is 2nd, and it doesn't do a tenth of what China does.

#469 Re: Not So Free Chat » Bow Down Before Iran? » 2006-11-04 02:17:02

To be honest, I don't care what happens to Iraq

Actually, you do, because chaos there will generate wave after wave of terrorist attacks on Saudi Arabia, Israel and the US, probably in that order.  Even if the blood-soaked streets don't bother you, the economic shock from higher oil prices will.

#471 Re: Not So Free Chat » Bow Down Before Iran? » 2006-11-03 05:52:23

Ritter compares Iraq and Iran ...

The Case for Engagement
Scott Ritter
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061120/ritter

#472 Re: Not So Free Chat » Current Gasoline/Petrol Price$ » 2006-11-03 05:02:52

Peaking of world oil production, an update by Robert Hirsch, Senior Energy Advisor, SAIC:

In-depth introduction to the issue and its complexities. Prepared for the Atlantic Council, 23 October 2006 (735 KB PDF)

http://www.d-n-i.net/fcs/pdf/hirsch_pea … ouncil.pdf

==

Separately, I noticed that some analysts are now including Canada's oil sands in the lists of world proven reserves ...

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/reserves.html

... pushing its proven reserves from 14 bbl to 180 bbl, putting it 2nd only to Saudi Arabia.  Oil sands production costs are $15/barrel compared to Saudi's $2/barrel. 

This is probably the best indication of where the world stands with respect to the prospects for new oil field discoveries - oil sands are it.

Unofficial lists also include Venezuela's oil sands ( 52 bbl -> 360 bbl ! ) but I doubt doe.gov will list the higher figure for some time  smile

There have also been noises about oil shale ( US has 1000 bbl equivalent, equal to some estimates of remaining world oil supplies ), but production costs are closer to $30/barrel and it burns 1 barrel of oil in energy to produce only 3.5 barrels.  Even biodiesel does better.

#473 Re: Human missions » Fly to Mars » 2006-11-02 22:05:26

Thanks, but why now are serj's last three post totals "9"?

Because he has made a total of 9 posts.

Edit: Hey, I just noticed that nobody's totals change: What gives?

Think of the post total as a window into your database record instead of an unchanging stamp for each post.

#474 Re: Not So Free Chat » internet language » 2006-11-02 16:52:40

On the board of the Dutch marssociety I think I once have seen the code of the internet language.  does anybody know a link to or a place on this board it stands on?

Do you mean HTML?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML

If you mean a human language, then I'd love to see a sample of the new internet language.  Maybe you could post a link.

#475 Re: Meta New Mars » Spammer » 2006-11-02 15:37:51

Artist spamming her work - pretty girl, nice work, still spam ...

http://www.newmars.com/forums/profile.p … ile&u=1853

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