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#451 Re: Water on Mars » Water on Mars Today » 2008-04-20 10:08:11

Algorithms,

The above images show an active process that can not be explained by wind and dust alone.

The current theoretical model does not allow for surface water eruptions in this area even though the visible data shows obvious liquid activity. Your rubber stamp response is based on this model.

Being as we have limed knowledge of the underground water works of Mars and surface interaction your conclusion is hypothetical at best. If you have evidence of some other medium that looks like water and behaves like water then please post.

Regards,
Vincent

#452 Re: Human missions » Venus First » 2008-04-20 07:32:33

I have been reading the post about going to Venus. My question is Why? If I understand it right the sun is only going to get hotter and hotter. I thing we should be heading out.

Vincent

#453 Re: Unmanned probes » Mars Exploration Rovers (MER) » 2008-04-19 11:19:47

Picked up via e-mail from someone who lurks on USF that the center wheel is jammed and she is rocking. Looks like lots of dust kicked up during the dislodge attempts.

Easy as she goes.

Vincent

#454 Re: Unmanned probes » Phoenix - North Pole Region Lander (PHX) » 2008-04-19 05:44:16

I have been blessed to know about all of the great Mars image men on the net. One of the best at mega-scale cropping, blowing up and enhancement without prejudice is Dana Johnson.

Below is what I believe to be the highest resolution single image of the area for Phoenix to land. Interesting terrain indeed minus the frost or snow in the low topo areas. Just some patchy frost or frozen subsurface eruption areas, a few boulders.

Link to Dana’s site, strap in if you go there, lots of intense images

http://profile.imageshack.us/user/danajohnson0/

Vincent

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#455 Re: Unmanned probes » Mars Exploration Rovers (MER) » 2008-04-19 05:04:49

Leave the low hanging fruit alone.

That’s right.

Rumor has it that Oppy is stuck in Victoria crater. No official word from JPL.

Vincent

#456 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Colors of Mars » 2008-04-18 17:57:33

cIclops,

I think we were getting into color again on the other thread. Since I do not believe any true color images of Mars exist then all images would be in false color, some just closer to the human eye spectrum.

In regard to the gully image location of the whitish blue area is very important. It is giving us a different characteristic. If it were surface material then what is the chances of it being different from the other surface material only in the gully.

Interpretation is not just color rendering but also location and pattern. I would take a grayscale if there was one floating around

That is why you always need a good photo man on any forum. A gray scale crop or old fashion black and white would take a lot of the questions out from that image.



Vincent

#457 Re: Unmanned probes » Hayabusa - JAXA asteroid rendezvous and sample return » 2008-04-18 17:18:17

That’s a big 10-4, 3488

Well, may have been a little vague, just kidding.


Thanks,
Vincent

#458 Re: Unmanned probes » Hayabusa - JAXA asteroid rendezvous and sample return » 2008-04-18 16:07:55

Nice images guys, are they true color? Just kidding.

I was wondering about the amount of gravity on an object like that. Anybody know?

Vincent

#459 Re: Water on Mars » Water on Mars Today » 2008-04-17 22:37:33

One more,

If there was moisture up there with all that dust then we should see other evidence of micro-climate.

All I got to say is yes, yes we would

With all that moisture on a toasty afternoon and light winds surface inversions would form in the low topographic areas. Leave bathtub rings so to speak.

Here they are.

Vincent
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#460 Re: Unmanned probes » Phoenix - North Pole Region Lander (PHX) » 2008-04-17 21:35:02

Yep, that cartoon is a hoot. Lets cross our fingers the shoot opens before impact, lol.

Like a father in the waiting room. Good spot and good timing for sure.

Vincent

#461 Re: Pictures of Mars » Real images of Mars » 2008-04-17 14:43:51

If you want to do real images, I am cool.

Vincent

#462 Re: Pictures of Mars » Real images of Mars » 2008-04-17 14:33:23

Maybe we can do L2L3L4L5L6L7L8

Damn, I just want some

Vincent

#463 Re: Pictures of Mars » Real images of Mars » 2008-04-17 13:49:02

Lets get it on. I want some


Vincent

#464 Re: Pictures of Mars » Real images of Mars » 2008-04-17 13:05:30

This is were I digress

This is were I get banned. If you want to talk to NASA and be the hero of the forum then all you got to do is say hey, we got some moron that thanks he knows some stuff.


Tell them to talk to Vincent. I am not a yes man. May we all learn


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZqoSHi3aP4

Vincent

#465 Re: Pictures of Mars » Astronomy from Mars. » 2008-04-17 12:37:20

Love that blue Earth. Sort of like a tan or red Mars.

Love good color. Did I say that already? Hats off for some good color.

Vincent

#467 Re: Unmanned probes » Phoenix - North Pole Region Lander (PHX) » 2008-04-17 12:01:16

Another image from MRO in the surface landing eclipse. Do not know what time of year or season. My real name and that of my wife is on board.

Let’s get jazzed. The boys know where they are going.

Vincent



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#468 Re: Water on Mars » Water on Mars Today » 2008-04-17 11:18:06

Mr. Vincent

Surly Mr. Squires would have noticed some surface changes with the MER images he released to the public.

All I got to say is yes, yes he would.

Sol 119 on left and 123 on the right. Image from Sir Charles of Xeontech.

See nothing for Vincent, just a collector of data by many names.

Vincent


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#469 Re: Pictures of Mars » Real images of Mars » 2008-04-17 10:19:54

cIclops,

I am not the best communicator on Earth. I really do wish to discuss different opinions. I do not know it all but have been around long enough to be dangerous.

Maybe I can learn from you or you from me. I think it is why we haunt these forums. It is not for the money for sure.

Feel free to disagree and give your rationale.

Vincent

#470 Re: Pictures of Mars » Real images of Mars » 2008-04-17 10:01:53

No mention of ice, and it would be a surprising find at 58° South. The blue "stuff" looks like deposits in false color.


Hi cIclops,

You just picked a scab. “Blue stuff,” has a blue hue due to the white balance being off in what is an RBG image IMHO. If it was, “just deposits,” then the deposits would need to be different in some characteristic to produce the different wave length in any particular spectrum, even IR or UV.

Photons are just photons.

Vincent

#471 Re: Water on Mars » Water on Mars Today » 2008-04-17 09:46:31

But if that was really water we would see erosion patterns and drainage areas? Yes, yes we would. Here is an image from inside Victoria Crater From Sir Charles III.

Looks like a drain to me. As a kicker the area is what they call Baltic sand, the best drainage in the world.

Vincent

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#472 Re: Water on Mars » Water on Mars Today » 2008-04-17 09:38:25

Where is this water coming from you ask? From the ground, I say. Why or how you ask? I have no idea, I say.

If water was coming out we would surely catch it as long as we have been up there. I think we did.

Another Hort image of what I believe is an eruption in progress on a toasty Mars afternoon..

Vincent

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#473 Re: Water on Mars » Water on Mars Today » 2008-04-17 09:32:04

One of the best mud shots ever from Hort. Just out of purgatory

Vincent


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#474 Re: Water on Mars » Water on Mars Today » 2008-04-17 09:28:34

Wow,

The MRO image of ice in the gullies has got me all jazzed up. Looks like a water Flood.

This image is from Oppy on the edge of Victoria Crater. Looks like ground water eruption. From Hortonheardawho.

This is a stereo or cross eyed 3D. You cross your eyes to a central focal point instead of wearing the funny glasses.

Vincent
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#475 Re: Pictures of Mars » Astronomy from Mars. » 2008-04-17 09:11:43

Hello 3488,

Nice shot from Gusev. This is a friendly forum. A little quite but it will pick up I am sure. People seem nice and do not flame you out.

I posted in all the hot spots and put up some non-mainstream thoughts like color, life and water and was treated ok. A lot of the forums will have 37 people wanting proof of those claims when nobody really knows for sure.

Not much of a star man but love pictures. The current imagery has too many strings attached so to speak. I miss the old days.

Vincent

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