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#376 Re: Pictures of Mars » Real images of Mars » 2008-04-25 00:11:56

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Layered Sediments in Hellas Planitia (MRO/HiRISE) - imaged 27 Mar 2008

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This image shows outcrops of light-toned layered rocks in the northern part of Hellas Planitia, the floor of a massive, ancient impact crater.

The floor of Hellas includes the lowest parts of the Martian surface, and has been proposed as the site of ancient lakes or seas.

The layers show some variations in color and brightness, alternating between light and dark material. The bright layers are extensively fractured into angular boulders and blocks, while the dark layers appear relatively smooth, although this could be due in part to sand or dust covering them. This alternation also appears to correspond to stairstep-like topography in places, suggesting that some layers are more resistant to erosion than others. However, in other areas, the slope is relatively constant.

Light-toned layered rocks are found in many sites on Mars, including much of the north rim of Hellas. They could have been deposited in many ways: volcanic ash, wind-blown sand, river or lake deposits. The occurrence of some of these around the edge of the deep floor of Hellas raises the possibility that these layers were deposited on the floor of an ancient lake, but other mechanisms are also possible.

#377 Re: Pictures of Mars » High res mars maps and 3d terrain » 2008-04-25 00:07:59

New Online Spectrometer Map

A new online map lets visitors explore Mars’ past through a collection of high-resolution observations from one of the most powerful spectrometers ever sent to the Red Planet. Evidence of ancient bodies of water, flowing rivers and groundwater peeks out from beneath layers of hardened magma and dust—testaments to Mars’ progression through wet, volcanic and dry eras.

The data come from the Compact Reconnaissance Imaging Spectrometer for Mars (CRISM), on board NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. CRISM’s primary mission is to search for signs that liquid water once existed on Mars by identifying minerals that form only in the presence of water. Molecules of water trapped in these minerals leave particular patterns in the sunlight that reflects off of them and into CRISM, which senses up to 544 “colors,” or wavelengths, of light.

A team of researchers at The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (APL), which built and operates the instrument, has converted the complex CRISM data into easy-to-understand composite images. “The images clearly show the distribution of certain minerals, which tells us about the planet’s history,” says Scott Murchie of APL, CRISM’s principal investigator. “This map moves the information out of the domain of specialists and makes the very latest Mars research accessible to anyone with an interest in the planet.” The online collection currently includes more than 900 observations, and more are being added as the team prepares them.

The high-resolution map can be found on the “CRISM Data Products: Viewing Features on Mars” Web site, at http://crism-map.jhuapl.edu/, and is best viewed with Firefox 2.0, Netscape 7.2, or Internet Explorer 7.0, or better.

#379 Re: Human missions » Armstrong Lunar Outpost - status » 2008-04-24 13:10:45

A lot of that £10 billion will come back into the economy from tourism, construction etc etc. But yes, it's yet another Olympics ... yawn.

NASA say they need £50 billion to rebuild the lunar transportation infrastructure. The UK would have to invest far more than that to create the technical and engineering base as well as the infrastructure. Cooperation with the US makes the most sense. NASA aim to be back on the moon by 2020, that's 12 years from now. So if the UK put in £800 million ($1.6 billion) a year, that would make the UK a significant partner and should pay for one or two seat per year, equivalent to a full time British place in the Outpost. Not only would it help NASA get the project moving faster so it could happen before 2020 and bring Mars missions closer, it would put Britain back at the forefront of space exploration. Now that would be something to wake up the British public!

Why doesn't the UK go for it?

#380 Re: Intelligent Alien Life » Why is the Universe silent? » 2008-04-24 11:14:56

Exactly so. The product of billions of years and billions of locations can be further expanded. The type of chemical reactions involving amino acids occur very quickly, so many happen per second and there are many many seconds in several billion years. Each of billions of suitable planetary surfaces has billions upon billions of locations for these reactions. The product of these is truly a large number.

Now during the early evolution of the universe, many of the precursors of carbon based life weren't available - carbon is a good example smile - however after the final nucleosynthesis of the first stars, these atoms were created. That still leaves several billion years for life to originate.

The big gap in the sequence is from basic living organisms to intelligent life - we know this took of the order of three billion years on Earth so it would depend on the stability of the planetary surface during this time. Many stars do appear to have this stability, but estimating the probability of this is guesswork right now as we've not even detected one Earth-like exoplanet.

The coefficients of the Drake equation are under constant revision, but at least we know the lower limit smile

#381 Re: Unmanned probes » Phoenix - North Pole Region Lander (PHX) » 2008-04-24 10:42:09

Zydar, this topic is for discussion about the Phoenix mission. Discussion about hypothetical alien artifacts in the landing area imagery takes places in the topic created for it. Respect these simple rules and your contributions will also be respected.

My previous statement about OT messages in this topic

#382 Re: Human missions » Armstrong Lunar Outpost - status » 2008-04-24 08:55:17

ESA considers cislunar space station - 23 Apr 2008

By Rob Coppinger

The European Space Agency, Russia and Japan are all considering a cislunar orbital complex that could consist of a habitation section and a resource module that would provide power and fuel and possibly be a safe haven for Orion crew exploration vehicle crews.

This orbital complex could feature in a report to be published in mid-May about the progress made between ESA and NASA on their comparative lunar architecture study that began in January. The report will be followed by further work that will finish at the end of the year.

As a subset of the global exploration strategy work ongoing between the world's space agencies, ESA and NASA have been discussing their own plans, with the Europeans interested in creating their own architecture enabling them to act independently but also support a collaborative programme.

"Europe will not do this alone. Orbital infrastructure in cislunar space is something Europe could do with its [technological] heritage," says ESA's human spaceflight directorate's head of strategy and architecture office Bernhard Hufenbach. "It could be a staging post and make the [NASA] Altair [lunar lander], Orion architecture more robust."

He cited ESA's International Space Station Columbus laboratory module and the agency's Automated Transfer Vehicle with its fuel and dry cargo capabilities as examples of systems that his agency could apply to a cislunar station.

An interesting proposal, would this have any other value other than a safe habor for Orion/Altair crews? Where in cislunar space would it be? EML1?

#383 Re: Unmanned probes » Phoenix - North Pole Region Lander (PHX) » 2008-04-24 08:31:08

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Key: 1 = SSI, 2 = RAC, 2a = scoop, 3 = MECA, 4 = TEGA, 5 = MET.
Note that TEGA is composed of two subsystems: TA (Thermal Analyzer, 4a) and EGA (Evolved Gas Analyzer, 4b)

*  Robotic Arm (RA), provided by JPL: The RA (configured with a scoop) allows digging down to 0.5 m into the soil
    * Robotic Arm Camera (RAC), provided by the Max-Planck-Institut für Sonnensystemforschung (MPS), Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany, in collaboration with the University of Arizona
    * Microscopy, Electrochemistry, and Conductivity Analyzer (MECA), provided by JPL with support from University of Neuchatel, Switzerland and MPS, Germany
    * Thermal and Evolved Gas Analyzer (TEGA) from University of Arizona and University of Texas, Dallas
    * Mars Descent Imager (MARDI) from Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS), California
    * Surface Stereoscopic Imager (SSI) from the University of Arizona with three radiometric calibration targets from the Niels Bohr Institute, Denmark
    * Meteorological Station (MET) including a Light Detection and Ranging (LIDAR) instrument and pressure/temperature sensors from the Canadian Space Agency as well as a Telltale (wind gauge) from the University of Aarhus, Denmark

More details from the Max Planck Institute Phoenix site

#384 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Altair - Lunar Lander (LSAM) - status » 2008-04-24 05:58:19

Lunar Ascent and Rendezvous Trajectory Design (PDF) - 1 Feb 2008

The lunar ascent profile, shown in Figure 1, begins with a 100-meter vertical rise phase, which lasts approximately 10 seconds. The vertical rise is followed by a Single Axis Rotation (SAR) maneuver. The SAR logic calculates a single-axis time optimal rotation from the initial attitude to the final attitude, given a final attitude command (yaw, pitch, and roll) and limits on angular velocity and angular acceleration (5.0 deg/sec and 15.0 deg/sec² were used, respectively). The exact length of this maneuver varies from case to case, but, given these limits, it is generally on the order of 10 seconds. The SAR is followed by a Powered Explicit Guidance (PEG) phase that delivers the vehicle to the desired orbit.

Lots of numbers and details about the ascent trajectory.

#385 Re: Unmanned probes » Mars Exploration Rovers (MER) » 2008-04-24 05:42:41

Shoulder Motor Balks on Opportunity’s Robotic Arm - 23 Apr 2008

A small motor in the robotic arm of NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity that began stalling occasionally more than two years ago has become more troublesome recently.

Rover engineers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., are diagnosing why the motor, one of five in the robotic arm, stalled on April 14 after much less motion that day than in the case of several earlier stalls. They are also examining whether the motor can be used and assessing the impact on Opportunity's work if the motor were no longer usable.

The motor controls sideways motion at the shoulder joint of the rover robotic arm. Other motors provide up-and-down motion at the shoulder and maneuverability at the elbow and wrist. A turret at the end of the arm has four tools that the arm places in contact with rocks and soils to study their composition and texture.

"Even under the worst-case scenario for this motor, Opportunity still has the capability to do some contact science with the arm," said JPL's John Callas, project manager for the twin rovers Opportunity and Spirit. "The vehicle has quite a bit of versatility to continue the high-priority investigations in Victoria Crater and back out on the Meridiani plains after exiting the crater."

The performance of the motor in the past week is consistent with increased resistance in the electrical circuit, such as from degrading of wire in the winding, rather than a mechanical jam. Additional tests are planned for checking whether the apparent resistance is localized or intermittent.

Opportunity and Spirit landed on Mars in January 2004 to begin missions originally planned for three months. They have continued operating for more than four years, though each with some signs of aging.

Opportunity's balky shoulder motor began stalling occasionally in November 2005. The motor could still be operated by applying increased voltage. Engineers assessed it has an increased likelihood of becoming unusable, however, so the team changed its standard procedures for stowing and unstowing the arm.

Until then, on days when the arm would not be used, the team kept it stowed, resting on a hook under the front of the rover deck. Motion of the stall-prone shoulder motor is necessary to unstow the arm, so if the motor were to become unusable with the arm in the stowed position, the arm could not be deployed again. With diminished confidence in the balky motor, the team began unstowing the arm at the end of each day's drive rather than leaving it stowed overnight. This keeps the arm available for use even if the motor then stops working.

This spring, Opportunity is crossing an inner slope of Victoria Crater to reach the base of a cliff portion of the crater rim, a promontory called "Cape Verde." On April 14, Opportunity was backing out of a sandy patch encountered on the path toward Cape Verde from the area where the rover descended into the crater. As usual, the commands included unstowing the arm at the end of the day's short drive. The shoulder motor barely got the arm unstowed before stalling.

"We'll hold off backing out of the sand until after we've completed the diagnostic tests on the motor," Callas said. "The rover is stable and safe in its current situation, and not under any urgency. So we will take the time to act cautiously."

#386 Re: Unmanned probes » Phoenix - North Pole Region Lander (PHX) » 2008-04-24 05:30:44

Vincent, several of your messages have been removed, they were totally off topic. If you want to chat with people use PMs. Stay on topic.

Zydar, as you well know there is a topic for the discussion of such ideas as  "Martian building design" in Phoenix landing area imagery. In case you have forgotten, it is here. Your OT posts have also been removed.

Phoenix lands in 31 days

#387 Re: Intelligent Alien Life » Why is the Universe silent? » 2008-04-23 14:55:51

Earth is so rare with so many freak occurrences as to be a one of a kind in the universe.
Life is very difficult to start and such a random freak event that this is the only place it has happened or will ever happen in this universe.

There is no evidence that shows Earth-like planets are rare, the frequency of exoplanets indicates quite the opposite. The Miller-Urey experiment demonstrated that precursors of life are very easily produced on Earth-like planets. Yes it's a big step from amino acids to a living organism, but there's no evidence or reason to show that it's impossible. Given the eons of time and the enormous numbers of likely planetary surfaces, there's every reason to say that life has appeared elsewhere.

#388 Re: Pictures of Mars » Real images of Mars » 2008-04-23 14:38:19

Vincent, your comments are increasingly incomprehensible and OT please moderate them or they will be moderated. Furthermore, please do not repost images for no reason.

As promised, your replies have been moderated. Keep on topic or take it to Free Chat

#389 Re: Unmanned probes » Phoenix - North Pole Region Lander (PHX) » 2008-04-23 13:06:19

Some quotes from Peter Smith, Phoenix PI,  during a Q&A on spacEurope blog

It is true that if the spacecraft footpad perches on a rock or is otherwise unstable, then the RA (ed: Robotic Arm) has the strength to move the lander. We often joke that landing on ice in low gravity will allow us to pull ourselves along the surface using the RA from rock to rock.

Discovering Martian life is beyond the goal of this mission. We are looking first to see if the Martian arctic is habitable: periodic liquid water, organic material (it could be from meteors), and energy sources available for power an organism.

The first week of the mission consists of taking images and preparing for gathering samples. At the end of the first week we expect to have delivered a surface sample to our TEGA instrument. The summer is our prime science opportunity and we expect to meet all our mission goals by September. As you might expect, the mission will continue longer than this up until solar conjunction in mid-November. Recovering operations after that in late December will be very difficult as the Sun is setting in this high arctic region. By February we expect that carbon dioxide ice is forming a thick layer around the lander and without heat Phoenix will not survive.

We have found a safe site with few boulders to insure a safe landing. However, it will not be free of cobbles and smaller pebbles. I am curious to see how these stones have weathered over time and whether they are aligned with the polygonal boundaries.

There are few slopes in the neighborhood and the horizon should look extremely flat, no hills. However, the site is far from boring. We are near a 10 km crater and should be on the ejecta blanket containing material brought to the surface from depth. We are also on the slope of a large volcano, Alba Patera and may encounter ash blown from the interior. Finally, the site is a shallow valley and has undergone erosion which may leave signatures.

We land just before summer solstice and the first few months of the mission have plenty of sunlight altho our power generation depends on the tilt of the lander which we cannot control. Our science team has many arguments about how ice might react when the overburden of soil is removed. We will try to force some of the ice to melt by putting it in the warmest place we can find--the lander deck, then imaging it as solar heating tries to melt it. The question is will it sublimate before melting?

Phoenix uses another variant of the Wind River VXWorks real time OS software, not the same as the MER mission. Missions try to gather as much heritage as possible in their designs--no one wants to start over again from the beginning. However, when new space-qualified computers come available sometimes there is little software heritage to be found.

We are flying an atomic force microscope built in Switzerland by Urs Staufer for the first time ever. This is a difficult instrument to fly because it is sensitive to vibration even the tiny vibes caused by temperature change and wind. It has worked well in the lab and during environmental tests giving a resolution of an amazing 100 nm per pixel.

#391 Re: Pictures of Mars » Real images of Mars » 2008-04-23 06:56:41

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Disappearing Dunes (MRO/HiRISE) - imaged 20 Mar 2008

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More than 10 percent of the surface area north of 65 degrees North on Mars has some type of cover by windblown sand dunes. This HiRISE image shows large barchan (crescent-shaped), barchanoid and some smaller dome-shaped dunes.

The image is of a location where the first significant change to sand dunes was reported on Mars (Bourke et al, 2008). That study used a time series of MOC images taken over a period of three Mars years and showed that two 20 meter-wide dome dunes disappeared and a third shrank by an estimated 15 percent. The HiRISE image confirms that the dune forms no longer exist but, interestingly, suggests that the sediment removal is ongoing as the third dune has been reduced in volume.

Other, larger dunes in the location do not show apparent change: more time or more precise measurements to display evidence of change is needed. Alternately, the sediment in the larger dunes may be unavailable for transport at the present time due to induration. Nevertheless, the change observed in the small dome dunes indicates that not all dunes on Mars are effectively stabilized and immobile.

#392 Re: Pictures of Mars » Real images of Mars » 2008-04-23 06:50:29

For all the folks, old and young, who won't live enough to see a permanent base on Mars, the next best thing are these images. Try the big panoramic 3D ones with glasses. If you can hang on to 2010 there will be HD TV from the new rover - now that should add even more realism!

With current funding levels Mike Griffin recently estimated the first permanent base will be established about the year 2100, so just about everyone reading this forum right now won't get to see it. That's why we all need to push for more funding!

#393 Re: Interplanetary transportation » COTS - status » 2008-04-22 14:57:29

NASA Awards Launch Services Contract to SpaceX - 22 Apr 2008

WASHINGTON -- NASA has awarded Space Exploration Technologies, or SpaceX, a NASA Launch Services contract for the Falcon 1 and Falcon 9 launch vehicles.

The NASA Launch Services contracts are multiple awards to multiple launch service providers. Twice per year, there is an opportunity for existing and emerging domestic launch service providers to submit proposals if their vehicles meet the minimum contract requirements.

The contract is an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contract where NASA may order launch services through June 30, 2010, for launches to occur through December 2012. Under the NASA Launch Services IDIQ contracts, the potential total contract value is between $20,000 and $1 billion, depending on the number of missions awarded.

The contract seeks a launch capability for payloads weighing 551 pounds or heavier into a circular orbit of 124 miles at an orbital inclination of 28.5 degrees. Payloads would be launched to support three NASA mission directorates: Science, Space Operations and Exploration Systems.

Because an IDIQ contract has been awarded to SpaceX, it can compete for NASA missions using the Falcon 1 and Falcon 9 launch vehicles as specified by the NASA Launch Services contract process.

#394 Re: Unmanned probes » Phoenix - North Pole Region Lander (PHX) » 2008-04-22 08:20:30

Hi danajohnson!

This may help to explain what Phoenix will be used to look for:

Phoenix will assess the habitability of the Martian northern environment by using sophisticated chemical experiments to assess the soil's composition of life giving elements such as carbon, nitrogen, phosphorus, and hydrogen. Identified by chemical analysis, Phoenix will also look at reduction-oxidation (redox) molecular pairs that may determine whether the potential chemical energy of the soil can sustain life, as well as other soil properties critical to determine habitability such as pH and saltiness.

Phoenix will dig deep enough into the soil to analyze the soil environment potentially protected from UV looking for organic signatures and potential habitability.

The mission supports the four Mars exploration goals, outlined in more detail here:

Goal 1: Determine whether life ever arose on Mars

Goal 2: Characterize the climate of Mars

Goal 3: Characterize the geology of Mars

and most importantly for many readers here:

Goal 4: Prepare for human exploration

#395 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Automated Transfer Vehicle (ATV) - ESA ISS cargo carrier » 2008-04-22 02:37:21

From ISS daily reports for 21 Apr 2008:

ATV Reboost Test:   The single-burn reboost firing test of the ATV “Jules Verne” overnight at 12:10am-1:52am was conducted successfully.  Burn duration was 4m 33s, with a delta-V of 1.04 m/s (3.41 ft/sec).  Mean altitude gain was ~1.49 km.  The purpose of the reboost was to test the ATV main engines prior to the scheduled reboost on 4/25 (Friday).  ISS attitude control authority was handed over to the Russian MCS (Motion Control System) thrusters at ~12:00am and returned to US momentum management at ~2:47am.

#396 Re: Unmanned probes » Phoenix - North Pole Region Lander (PHX) » 2008-04-21 16:05:33

Ice-T by Mark Lemmon Co-Investigator, SSI Lead

April 17, 2008 - I'm still recovering from the latest exercise in simulating operations on Mars, last week. We spent 3 days, running about 2 sols per day, doing an event called the Ice Thread Test. A thread test is a chance to focus on some aspect of operations that needs attention, without bringing the whole project to a focus on simulating all aspects of operations.

In this case, the "thread" was the discovery of ice. A handful of us were involved, representing mission management, science, the robotic arm team, and the camera team. Behind the scenes, the PIT crew had prepared a great set-up and kept things rolling. We started with a pristine workspace with a few intriguing areas to dig ("those 4 rocks mark the corners of one of the allowed dig zones"). Some things about the test were comforting: we had a small tilt, and the workspace was aligned north. We’ve practiced with tilts up to around 15 degrees, which are tilts we can deal with, but they complicate operations and are not at all likely. We’re landing in an area with regional slopes less than 2 degrees and few boulders at the scale where they could cause big tilts. We are hoping for polygonal ice fractures, but the polygons are 3-6 m across and the relief in the fractures is expected to be centimeter scale.

34 days to arrival!

#397 Re: Unmanned probes » Phoenix - North Pole Region Lander (PHX) » 2008-04-21 16:00:39

Should the mission controllers feel there is a need to change the landing site, there is still time for critical corrections to be made.

The landing ellipse is about 100kms x 20 kms, all they can do is pick a landing area that has a low probability of large rocks being present. They have selected the area most suitable for the instruments and with the highest chance of a safe landing.

#398 Re: Human missions » Armstrong Lunar Outpost - status » 2008-04-21 13:13:55

loL. Under that shed is a top secret lab that's building a Tardis.

It's run on a small budget of about $400m cobbled together from a bunch of other government agencies. A sad symbol of the failure of the UK to get serious about space. There's some renewed interest in working on the Outpost, see this recent NASA BNSC working group report on lunar cooperation (PDF)

#399 Re: Human missions » Armstrong Lunar Outpost - status » 2008-04-21 11:01:17

ESA in favour of commercial lunar communications - 21 Apr 2008

(From Rob Coppinger's blog)

Speaking to the European Space Agency's human spaceflight directorate’s head of strategy and architecture office, Bernhard Hufenbach today (21 April) he spoke enthusiastically of commercial services for a lunar outpost

The use of commercial services for exploration seems to be gaining ground and we might see it recommended as part of a report to be produced by NASA and ESA in mid-May. It will summarise their progress thus far in finding common ground between their respective architectures for the Moon, and beyond

NASA has certainly been thinking about how it can extend its forays into the commercial world to the wider exploration initiative and the British National Space Centre has said it has been an advocate of commercial services in its bilateral talks with the US space agency

Hufenbach spoke of initial commercial services focusing on broadband communications between the Moon and the Earth with the possible use of optical, i.e. laser, systems for sending data back and forth

Following that he envisaged wider commercial services that could encompass surface activities, I am guessing habitats. But he didn't rule out, either, in the much longer term, commercial crew transportation

Good to see ESA getting interested in the Outpost!

#400 Re: Interplanetary transportation » COTS - status » 2008-04-21 10:56:16

NASA offers $3.1 billion for International Space Station cargo supply - 21 Apr 2008

By Rob Coppinger

Under NASA's new International Space Station commercial resupply contracts logistics providers can expect minimum cargo requirements of 20,000kg (44,000lb) and maximum awards of $3.1 billion. But companies will probably have to provide their own cargo processing facilities that meet the US space agency's standards.

With the Space Shuttle to be retired in 2010, NASA has opted to procure ISS cargo resupply on a commercial basis between calendar year 2010 and 2015. NASA's logistics estimate for that period are an up and down mass total of 82,400kg, based on an ISS crew of six. On 14 April NASA released its final request for proposals, setting out the process that will lead to a selection of one or more resupply contractors on 28 November.

As well as satisfying NASA's flight-operations requirements on paper, the contractors' spaceships must complete on-orbit tests during the first delivery mission before docking with the ISS. But the real test could be whether potential contractors can be competitive and still provide the cargo processing facility required.

Asked if NASA would obtain European Space Agency Automated Transfer Vehicle resupply should the contractors not be ready to deliver in 2010, NASA's ISS programme's transport office manager, Kathryn Lueders said: "The plan is secure all upmass through domestic services."

She says NASA arrived at the $3.1 billion figure through an internal assessment, but declines to give details. The cargo minimum of 20,000kg would be for a number of missions over many years.

That's a nice juicy incentive for Orbital and SpaceX!

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