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Enough already with the studies for the exploration program. Gee another 6 more months and still the possibility of another and still all we will have is papers. Lets build hardware instead for that same 12 months and whose ever design works at the end of that time wins....
I guess I would not like to land like that in a Soyuz space capsule returning from the ISS, that would be a disaster as was the shuttle.
I hope we can learn more about why the pyros did not go off. This could also be sensor and programming caused ( metric,english translation of units).
It also has given Nasa the chance to maybe change what does happen with the Stardust probe in 2006 if possible before another such failure.
As I put forward earlier America is the melting pot of the world with many blocks in our largest of cities with people from many nations. Choice of nations throw that concept out, choice of earthlings in and include all thoses willing to pull in the same common direction into the mix of thoses going forth to colonize space.
Oh, by the way I am from a little hick town in NH and have worked side by side many from Egypt to Ireland, Spain, Cambodian, and more. I call them all freind. Not the race and not there national but by Name...
Part of what I think the sustanablity portion of the equation is being discussed under the topic NDSS National Department of Space Settlement, We've explored, now let's occupy! and another part of this is making it affordable under How to lower launch costs, Calling our techie gurus. . ., Space Initive Launch Vehicle, Delta IV Heavy and Beyond , and Post central for information on CEV 2.
All these topics are inter-twined with Nasa's new vision of space exploration but with the strings of budgetary concern and the burden of the past as a hinderance going forward.
Lithium batteries when put under there rated load of Amper Hour will generate heat, the higher the current draw the more heat internally generated. The radiator is intended to cool the batteries so that they will not internally break down.
If it were not for existing treaties it just might pan out that way. ![]()
Sort of like the catch 22 we now have with no shuttle flights for Astronauts.
The big vendors all have unmanned vehicles and I am sure could all provide it in a manned version but they will not. This in large part since they have no contracts to do so they are unwilling with no garantees of payment.
Auh yes they all got recent contracts but little money for there thoughts for the next 6 months.
NASA taps contractors for space architecture
http://www.wtonline.com/news/1_1/daily_ … 435-1.html
Northrop Grumman to Help NASA Define Space Exploration Architecture
http://www.primezone.com/newsroom/news_ … ml?d=63464
Like you noted demand is everything but so is price and currently that is stopping demand. Your case of the auto was a prime example sales of Taurus versus a Cadilac or even a porche.
Inviting others on board
Well that could be one way to earn money by the seat.
Just another way to do aircarfts but a very interesting concept.
WHIRL-A-DRONE BEGINS TO SPIN
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001098.html

I think a world race would be the right term for those we should included and since America is the melting pot of the world, yes american would most likely then be the choice that could and should do this expansion. But do it in the name of the world and not of a nation.
You sort of hit the edge of the fence with regards to Manufacturing because known sales will be there and contractual agreements to provide a fixed quantity.
In Manufacturing for mass production not only must material cost be low but the overhead of labor as well, automation is usually seen as the answer but that entails capital expenditures and that eats away at profits.
Under contracts though there is no need to reduce manufacturing cost because it is garenteed money in the hand upon delivery for the manufacturer goods. No one cares to try to eek out a little more profit since it is already fat.
So long as it is a Space Department of Expansion, for some would view our presence in Afganistan and in Iraq as there people take that view as just that already of America, though we know better.
One of the proported failures of possibility for why the pyros on the Genesis probe did not go off is the batteries.
a link sort of discounting the effects of heat on that style of batteries (lithium-dioxide) . But if this truely is the cause maybe a battery pack of mixed types might be in order for the Rover design.
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2001/r … 1_214.html
The temperature of the lithium-dioxide battery is currently at 23 degrees Celsius (73 degrees Fahrenheit), within the range anticipated by spacecraft designers. A radiator device intended to shield the battery is not working as well as expected, however, and the battery is likely to heat up to 42 degrees Celsius (108 degrees Fahrenheit). Mission managers consider this temperature to be within acceptable limits. They note that similar batteries have been maintained at 60 degrees Celsius (140 degrees Fahrenheit) for 15 months without impairing their performance. Ground tests are being conducted on lithium batteries to measure their durability at various temperatures.
I was doing a little searching on the battery type used, for this may be sugnificant in the future for other projects.
link for heating of batteries early in the genesis probes mission.
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991576
another link sort of discounting the effects of heat on that style of batteries (lithium-dioxide) .
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2001/r … 1_214.html
Not really sure about if the batteries were the reason for the pyros no going off or if it were some other electronics isssue at this point.
The problem with a winged space vehicles like the shuttle is that it is the wrong size for crew tranportation, much to large and for cargo why use wings at all, this case may be most true for the ISS.
I think that they can if they have the man power, Materials and if necessary the bucks in order to build them. The things that they probably will not have to put up with would a large amount of regulations and activist that would cause delay and or cancelation of the reactors being built.
Star Dust link
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/s … 40102.html
Once the spacecraft reaches nears Earth in 2006, it will jettison a sample canister that will enter the atmosphere and parachute down to the desert floor of the U.S. Air Force Utah Test and Training Range.
Nasa home page for Star Dust
http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/index.html
Question could they not jetison the canister and have the probe enter earth orbit?
Until a generation has come to pass and the stigma of the wall is but a blur in history those that are alive will always long for the days of old no matter how bad they were for they resist change.
Let a Thousand Reactors Bloom
Explosive growth has made the People's Republic of China the most power-hungry nation on earth. Get ready for the mass-produced, meltdown-proof future of nuclear energy.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.0 … _tophead_7
Snipet:
Physicists and engineers at Beijing's Tsinghua University have made the first great leap forward in a quarter century, building a new nuclear power facility that promises to be a better way to harness the atom: a pebble-bed reactor. A reactor small enough to be assembled from mass-produced parts and cheap enough for customers without billion-dollar bank accounts. A reactor whose safety is a matter of physics, not operator skill or reinforced concrete.
So basically the scram jet works like an air ram on a car motor or turbo charger or nitrox injection to make the fuel burn more effiecently.
Web cast WATCH NASA TV Press conference at 2:30 PM EDT
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/webcast/genesis/
Xprize race is heating up this month.
Weather hampers da Vinci test
Project team in U.S. for trial run of helium balloon
http://www.canada.com/saskato....0010724
ROMANIAN TEAM PLANS SEPTEMBER 8 TEST LAUNCH
http://www.xprize.org/press_r....ID=1142
Well if Nasa did not already have it bad enough with the funding issues and with the storms.
NASA may 'move' west
Shuttle shop needs home after Frances
http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413 … 54,00.html
NASA is considering using Boeing's Palmdale facility to manufacture protective thermal tiles for the space shuttle fleet after Hurricane Frances heavily damaged the tile shop in Florida.
Now news of Russian budget for space comes along.
Russia to Spend Less Than $1Bln on Space Programs in 2005
http://www.mosnews.com/money/2004/09/08 … dget.shtml
Just another of those forgotten abilities from the apollo era. The sample collectors are probably broken and most likely unusable. Why did they not use the ISS as the point of collection? Probably when I looked at the low price tag on the mission they did not allow for a engine burn to bring it into orbit?
The experiment is worth doing again but under the current funding senerio probably will not happen in this decade.