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#29276 Re: Human missions » Return to flight slipping » 2004-11-14 21:54:12

With what Nasa can use for day time launch windows how do they ever expect to finish the ISS. Not to mention that they must have a backup shuttle in the wings ready to go.

NASA has calculated that only four remaining windows are available in 2005 when those and other conditions for launch line up:
May 14-June 3.

July 13-Aug. 1.
A window of at least four days beginning Sept. 9.

A window of at least one day beginning Nov. 7.

NASA hopes to launch seven shuttle flights by October 2006, including as many as three next year.

Edit:
Reference from early this month on ISS near term build timelines. You can do the comparison to see how many and when Nasa wishes to use a shuttle.

http://images.spaceref.com/news/2004/11 … ule.sm.jpg

http://images.spaceref.com/news/2004/11 … hedule.pdf

#29277 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » CX OLEV » 2004-11-13 21:32:50

Yup the space tug has been mentioned for several years for the possibility for saving wayward satelites to even at one time being suggested for use to save the Hubble or at least to stabalize it a bit.

#29278 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » New Discoveries *4* - ...Solar System, Deep Space, cont'd » 2004-11-13 21:30:12

The empty bands distance makes it more interesting for all the hot jupiters orbit thus far have been really close to there suns, even closure that the Earths orbit.

#29279 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Palomar & Adaptive Optics » 2004-11-13 21:26:27

This gives them a feed back loop to cancel out the airs disturbances that make the stars twinkle.

#29280 Re: Life support systems » NASA/Water Recycling - ...Space Use/Earth Use » 2004-11-13 21:20:35

Actually this is a must not only for survival but also because there are more important cargo that will also be needed to support any long duration missions. Whether they are on the moon or on mars. To use water to make fuel is a bad idea when it must also be used to to grow food for the crew.

#29281 Re: Unmanned probes » BepiColombo - ESA/JAXA Mercury Orbiters » 2004-11-13 21:11:55

It is also part of the Messenger mission to aid in the search for them. Other efforts have been tried but with no success in finding them.
Other search turned up this older article also.
http://www.space.com/news/chasing_asteroids_000124.html

"These objects are zipping along faster than any bullet on Earth."

Is that really possible?

#29282 Re: Human missions » Post central for information on CEV 2 - ...continue here. » 2004-11-13 20:57:15

Follow up on the Bid-fraud probe intensifies, Case involves contract for launch pad construction. From 1994 to 1999, the NASA Inspector General's Office has finally noticed that Hansen and McDonald had been processing fake invoices worth more than $400,000 for goods and services that did not exist. Seem to me that since the Nasa new accounting software has been put in that a lot more descrepencies have been found.

http://www.floridatoday.com/!NEWSROOM/l … 113KSC.htm

#29283 Re: Human missions » Post central for information on CEV 2 - ...continue here. » 2004-11-12 21:27:01

We have all conjetured that the cost of space flight is way to high. Well on that note is there some other reason for the gravy train...

http://www.local6.com/index.html

FRIDAY: A major scheme at the Kennedy Space Center is uncovered. The Problem Solvers learn indictments are on the way from a federal investigation into a bid-rigging plan.
-- SEE THE EXCLUSIVE STORY ON LOCAL 6 NEWS AT 11 P.M. --

#29284 Re: Human missions » A new thread - on Bigelow's space prize » 2004-11-12 21:02:37

I think you hit it on the head when you asked where could you get a set of detailed plans for anything Nasa has ever built. Even contractors do not want to share the knowledge that they have obtained thou the years building for Nasa.

I agree give anyone a set of plans to review, make better or just simply the right choices as compared to the previous building of it and anything is possible with them.

#29285 Re: Unmanned probes » Mars Express (MEX) - ESA orbiter » 2004-11-12 20:47:51

I would say that the streaking is from when it was struck on the side where the impact occurred in the distant past. Just project the trace into space on each streak. I would surmise that the moon was larger back then, than it is now.

This color and texture also reminds me of places in utah, maybe this is a crunch from Earth..?..

Sort of hard to enoy 3 D views without the glasses.

#29286 Re: Human missions » A new thread - on Bigelow's space prize » 2004-11-12 14:28:36

From the spacepolitics web site . It appears that congress think prizes are a way to get the private industry involved.
big_smile
Space and Aeronautics Prize Act (Introduced in House)
prize program to encourage development of space and aeronautics technologies

SEC. 4. ORBITAL DEMONSTRATION PRIZE AUTHORITY.

(a) In General- The Endowment shall carry out a program to award a prize for the demonstration of a space flight vehicle to carry at least 1 person to a minimum altitude of 400 kilometers originating from within the United States or its territories, complete at least 3 complete orbits of the Earth, and return safely to the Earth. It is highly desirable for the space flight vehicle to demonstrate a high degree of reusability for future flights beyond the demonstration flight.

(b) Additional Requirements- In order to be eligible for the prize described in this section, the space flight vehicle--

(1) shall be built with the capacity to carry a minimum of 3 persons;

(2) shall not have been substantially developed under a contract or grant from any foreign or domestic government;

(3) may use a foreign or domestic space launch vehicle to launch the space flight vehicle to orbit; and

(4) comply with, or obtain waivers for, all international, national, regional, or local laws or regulations which pertain to the activities described in this section.

© Amount of Prize- The total amount of cash prize for the program described in this section may not exceed $100,000,000.

#29288 Re: Human missions » Post central for information on CEV 2 - ...continue here. » 2004-11-12 11:56:51

With recent mergers of effort from the field of available Rocket design and manufacturing it is indeed getting tougher for Nasa to choose a successor to the shuttle. Boeing and Northrup Grumman formed a single team, but Orbitial Sciences also has stated it will not bid on the CEV contract and instead will work as a subcontractor under Lockheed Martin's leadership.
With these up front activities it now is clear that alternative space companies are going to left out in the dark for the CEV.

NASA Facing Few Choices To Build CEV

This also forces NASA to make its choice from only two camps, neither of which is ideal: the oversized and experienced vs. the undersized and innovative.

To speed the CEV's development, NASA last September awarded $3 million in study contracts to eight different aerospace companies to do preliminary design work. Of these companies, NASA had hoped most if not all would follow through and put forth their own proposals for the CEV.

#29289 Re: Human missions » Return to flight slipping » 2004-11-12 11:48:22

Top managers of NASA's human and robotic programs are coming together to share their expertise as the agency prepares to return a safer Space Shuttle to flight on Friday, Nov. 19.

NASA Managers Available To Discuss Shuttle Return To Flight

#29291 Re: Human missions » The need for a Moon direct *2* - ...continue here. » 2004-11-12 11:42:44

Another Item to be mind full of is water in general. Water is just as precious to explorers as it is to everyone on Earth. Water is one of the most crucial provisions astronauts need to live and work in space, whether orbiting Earth, working at a lunar base or traveling to Mars.

NASA Advances Water Recycling for Space Travel and Earth Use

Release gets into the details of the machine and of its delevery for use.

#29292 Re: Human missions » ISS Woes & To-Mars » 2004-11-12 11:39:20

Russia to boost ISS after orbit decays faster than usual

You would have thought that they would have included maybe an Ion drive engine for just that purpose rather than relying on docked progress to do so.

#29293 Re: Life on Mars » Methane on Mars - Proof for life on Mars? » 2004-11-12 11:31:19

Well the methane find is in the news again but this time not reported from an orbiting probe but from Earth based telescopes though spectral signature of methane (CH4) in the Martian atmosphere.

Mars Methane Boosts Chances for Life

Using NASA's 3-meter Infrared Telescope Facility atop Mauna Kea, Hawaii, Mumma and his colleagues detected methane at a level of 250 parts per billion in equatorial latitudes north of the Hellas impact basin.

#29294 Re: Human missions » Space tourism & - a shuttle C hotel? » 2004-11-12 11:25:53

The Market Study presents specific, valuable information on market strengths, stratification, weaknesses and "soft spots" requiring the attention of advocacy, government, and business groups interested in promoting the VSE.

Dittmar Associates Releases The Market Study for Space Exploration

#29295 Re: Human missions » Hubble mistake - Action needed » 2004-11-12 11:22:36

Any one registered for the washington post article
Robot Helps Nasa Refocus on Hubble
What was the 411 on the article please.

Edit quote from nasawatch
"The Hubble Robotic Vehicle will be built from scratch, giving the United States a robotic rendezvous and docking capability for the first time in the history of space travel."

#29296 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » ADUM Experiment - ...ISS » 2004-11-12 11:09:42

I do not believe that either are doctors as well and that further enhances the surprise of the article being put forth.

I always thought that the ISS would do more but with limited resources and no ability to do anything other than what can be put into an experiment box this is as good as it will probably get. Unless we finally decide to try in orbit rocket assembly or building of a space port.

#29298 Re: Human missions » Post central for information on CEV 2 - ...continue here. » 2004-11-11 21:11:52

A lot more science and exploration could be done on a Russian dollar versus, those that Nasa is considering to spend.

#29299 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » New Discoveries *4* - ...Solar System, Deep Space, cont'd » 2004-11-11 21:06:32

Empty dust band indicates a planet around starNASA's new Spitzer Space Telescope detected a gap in the dust surrounding a fledgling star. Astronomers tackle Mysterious Baby Planet which is likely smaller than most extra-solar planets discovered thus far;about the size of Neptune.

The data also suggested that this planet is about the same distance from its parent star as our own Neptune is from the Sun.

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