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This sounds like the comet smashing Deep impact probe the US is doing as well.
I Still wonder about all these left overs from the solar systems development thou. There eventual use to aid man in furthering his presence amongst the stars and for future colonization efforts.
Interesting article on the use of sound waves and Lasers to heat the deuterium. Sounds more like a cold fusion since no helium or other elements are created by the process.
I know we spoke briefly on space elevators for moon use and that it would be possible with todays technology, well though I could not calculate any of this I was sure it would work best there from the little science knowledge that I have. Here is an article the speaks to this.
Going Up, Next Floor Elevating to the Moon
Pearson knew the technical challenges were formidable, so he wondered, "why not build an elevator on the Moon?"
On the Moon, the force of gravity is one sixth of what we feel here on Earth, and a space elevator cable is well within our current manufacturing technology. Stretch a cable up from the surface of the Moon, and you'd have an inexpensive method of delivering minerals and supplies into Earth orbit.
A lunar space elevator would work differently than one based on Earth. Unlike our own planet, which rotates every 24 hours, the Moon only turns on its axis once every 29 days; the same amount of time it takes to complete one orbit around the Earth. This is why we can only ever see one side of the Moon. The concept of geostationary orbit doesn't really make sense around the Moon.
There are, however, five places in the Earth-Moon system where you could put an object of low mass - like a satellite... or a space elevator counterweight - and have them remain stable with very little energy: the Earth-Moon Lagrange points. The L1 point, a spot approximately 58,000 km above the surface of the Moon, will work perfectly.
I know we spoke briefly on space elevators for moon use and that it would be possible with todays technology, well though I could not calculate any of this I was sure it would work best there from the little science knowledge that I have. Here is an article the speaks to this.
Going Up, Next Floor Elevating to the Moon
Pearson knew the technical challenges were formidable, so he wondered, "why not build an elevator on the Moon?"
On the Moon, the force of gravity is one sixth of what we feel here on Earth, and a space elevator cable is well within our current manufacturing technology. Stretch a cable up from the surface of the Moon, and you'd have an inexpensive method of delivering minerals and supplies into Earth orbit.
A lunar space elevator would work differently than one based on Earth. Unlike our own planet, which rotates every 24 hours, the Moon only turns on its axis once every 29 days; the same amount of time it takes to complete one orbit around the Earth. This is why we can only ever see one side of the Moon. The concept of geostationary orbit doesn't really make sense around the Moon.
There are, however, five places in the Earth-Moon system where you could put an object of low mass - like a satellite... or a space elevator counterweight - and have them remain stable with very little energy: the Earth-Moon Lagrange points. The L1 point, a spot approximately 58,000 km above the surface of the Moon, will work perfectly.
This mornings news article proports that he needed to earn more money for his family?
NASA chief's letter tells president he's leaving public service to earn more money for family
In a time when Nasa can ill afford the missions let alone start a vision, he wants more money.... Sounds more like greed just like the Red soxs Pedro deal with regards to the Mets basically offering the same dollar value per year but for more years.. It just stinks!@#%$@ :angry:
The actual cost of the rocket to move Hubble in either case will be in the neighborhood of lets say no more than 200 million but the research to design the booster segment that will latch onto Hubble is probably less than 500million of which seed money has been issued on the order of I think 300million.
Seems to me that it should cost a lot less than a shuttle flight but at this rate it looks like those involved are trying to get just the same amount of money for doing so.
The changing of the Guard for Nasa may also play into any future decisions even thou some have already been made to at least try robotically. Of which even that is doubtful at best thou the skills must be obtained somehow even if Hubble meets its demise.
Well with the recent news of Nasa's chief deciding that he has had enough and wishing to move on leaves a critical if not crucial void to fill. The vision IMO will be impacted by the changing of the guard as it were.
Getting a hold of the financial situation of Nasa is a huge under taking alone but to direct a vision on top of that may be like fighting a tidal wave. Good luck to whom ever tries to fill the shoes.
That in its self may be the problem of pay as you go to funding the goal. That future technology can not be afforded near term.
I have heard of various experiments to talk to dolphins and of listening to the whale songs but this is a first I have heard of for birds.
Where is that universal translator of star trek when you need it..
The only thing I see against adding in nuclear components is the much higher cost to accomplish any mission initially but if the devices can be used and re-used over and over again then we only need to worry about the waste products.
What would be the change if the fuel to go to mars was not Lox / H2 but Methane does the same problem of boil off occur? Since methane would be used on the ERV why not keep that the constant once you leave Earth instead.
Read what others have said in response to Nasa chief stepping down on Nasawatch.
Well here is some research that would help the shuttles TPS system of tiles.
Scientists Find Atomic Clues to Tougher Ceramics though the use of rare-earth elements.
Here is the possible candidate line up:
White House team already weighing five candidates for NASA job
Kadish
Air Force Lt. Gen. Ronald Kadish, who directed the effort to develop a system to shield the country from a missile attack.
Walker
Former Rep. Robert Walker, (R-Pa.), member of the Presidential Commission on the Implementation of the United States Space Exploration Policy in 2004 — also known as the Aldridge Commission.
Sega
Former shuttle astronaut and academic Ron Sega, now the director of Defense Research and Engineering at the Defense department.
Bolden
Former shuttle astronaut and retired Marine Maj. Gen. Charles F. Bolden, now senior vice president of TechTrans International.
Crippen
Pilot of the first orbital test flight of the shuttle program, retired Navy Capt. Robert Crippen, also former director of NASA's Kennedy Space Center.
http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/news/c … 234wna.xml
Shuttle Mile stones for return:
*Orbiter Boom Sensor System (OBSS): MD Robotics in Canada is making steady progress on the shuttle's new OBSS to be used starting with the RTF mission to allow crew to inspect earlier inaccessible areas for damage. The OBSS development schedule earlier looked like it could not support a first flight as early as May 14, but is now coming in line with orbiter schedules, Parsons said. Its shipment to Kennedy for Integration with Discovery is planned for this month.
The unit is a 40-ft. extension to the existing 50-ft. Canadian-built arm designed to position a laser dynamic range sensor and laser camera to view the wing leading edges and complete belly area. At least one of the two laser sensors should make the STS-114 flight. In space, the standard arm will mate with the new extension. The OBSS is also being designed for use by the station's arm to further its reach for orbital wing and belly inspections.
*Kennedy milestones: The three Boeing/Rocketdyne space shuttle main engines to be used on the RTF mission were installed in the orbiter Discovery late last week in Bay 3 of the Kennedy Orbiter Processing Facility (OPF). In the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) the stacking of Discovery's two solid rocket boosters is two-thirds complete on the spacecraft's mobile launcher platform and is expected to be finished this month by United Space Alliance technicians.
*External tank arrival: Discovery's external tank with insulation and other modifications is to be shipped by barge from its Lockheed Martin assembly facility in Michoud, La., by Dec. 31 and arrive here by Jan. 6. It is to be attached to the solid rocket boosters in the VAB by the second week of January. Under the current schedule, Discovery would be mated to the tank in early March and rolled to Launch Pad 39B by mid-March for tests leading to a mid-May liftoff.
The new external tank is being shipped to Kennedy with more work needed to prevent ice buildup on the liquid oxygen feed line bellows near where the oxygen umbilical enters the orbiter belly. The task is to be completed here and involves an engineering issue that has been under test for some time (AW&ST Oct. 4, p. 57).
This one is the safe haven rescue plan:
*Atlantis power-up: While Kennedy is accelerating Discovery processing for the first post-accident mission, it is also moving forward with preparation of Atlantis as the ready backup for retrieval of the STS-114 crew at the ISS within 40 days of Discovery's launch in an extreme emergency.
Another draw back to this years budget is in how future years scheduel projects for research questions to be answered but also to where we will send the probes that are needed to answer those very questions.
DISTANT DESTINATIONS: Outer Solar System Beckons, but Moon/Mars Focus Could Slow Exploration There
An upcoming NASA selection between very different robotic spacecraft for a $700-million mission scheduled to fly by 2010 is emblematic of the strains that are likely to beset the U.S. agency--and its international partners--for years to come as they struggle to map the new pay-as-you-go U.S. exploration program.
In choosing between a vehicle to return lunar samples from the Aitkin Basin at the Moon's south pole, and an orbiter that would circle Jupiter from pole to pole to see if the gas giant has a solid core, NASA managers must strike a balance between human space spectaculars close to home and the equally spectacular science possible deeper in space.
Another draw back to this years budget is in how future years scheduel projects for research questions to be answered but also to where we will send the probes that are needed to answer those very questions.
DISTANT DESTINATIONS: Outer Solar System Beckons, but Moon/Mars Focus Could Slow Exploration There
An upcoming NASA selection between very different robotic spacecraft for a $700-million mission scheduled to fly by 2010 is emblematic of the strains that are likely to beset the U.S. agency--and its international partners--for years to come as they struggle to map the new pay-as-you-go U.S. exploration program.
In choosing between a vehicle to return lunar samples from the Aitkin Basin at the Moon's south pole, and an orbiter that would circle Jupiter from pole to pole to see if the gas giant has a solid core, NASA managers must strike a balance between human space spectaculars close to home and the equally spectacular science possible deeper in space.
I think most over look the fact that it has been service at least 3 other times, which IMO has raise its value of investment. But what is the right way to go is and can be but only one of the 2 directions or choices. With combination on either side of the coin for how each would be done.
choice 1 keep it up there to do the science we need.
choice 2 let it come down by what ever means.
Of course there are sub choices for each.
This whole shake up of Nasa has been long over due..
Tspace should be lobbying congress for funds to build the much needed ships whether nasa has a hand in them or not with regards to launching them.
Last I knew the last-mile guidance system was being worked on by the DART program. As to the cost of developing a SDV no matter what flavor it is, Would it really cost all that much to design? We already have a good cost estimate for all the pieces that would make it up.
I would propose not a single unit but since it is on a 3/2 resonance, why not make it 3 vehicles launched so that they have a few months in orbit around mars and each brings a fresh crew from Earth on each pass out to mars. Basically creating a 2 year cycle of crews for round trip or a 2 year cycle on the surface. Either way it keeps a fresh crew and supplies always in route.
There are some new documents out for the CEV.
Shades of Apollo all the way...
Crew Exploration Vehicle Request for Proposal Statement of Work
Draft Statement of Work (sow)
Or try this page
The CEV will be part of a Crew Transportation System (CTS) that consists of the CEV, the CEVLV, and a launch escape system.
The CEV shall dock in Earth orbit with the Earth Departure Stage (EDS)
The CEV shall be capable of rendezvous and docking with the Lunar Surface Access Module (LSAM), which appears to perform the same function as the Apollo Lunar Module.
The CEV propulsive capability must be capable of returning the spacecraft from lunar orbit to re entry and landing on Earth.
The CEV shall utilize either parachutes or parafoils.
The CEV structure may include wheels or landing gear
The total weight of the spacecraft is undetermined
The initial crew size will be no less than four
The CEV shall contain a health monitoring system, a galley, and a waste management facility.
Launch escape capability must include on-the-pad, throughout the complete booster ascent, and Earth orbit in the event of a failure of the EDS.
A separate RFP SOW and description will detail the requirements of the CTS booster.
I know that I have seen or read this concept before as posted here by BWhite: Stennis Space Center tests paraffin-fuel rocket motor if not this thread it was under the SpaceShipOne's hybrid motor discusions but here it is anyways....
Thanks have read it. More of gloom and doom for failed Russian ship possibility than actual fact though. Latest spin doctor to bolster the cause for Nasa getting there own way and not relying on others IMO.