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Hi Edwards and Steve!

first i will reply to edwards, see i fully understand this is a business venture and it requires a business plan , however i am of the opinion, that one person's ideas and plans are not enough and you need everyones inputs to develop a formal solid business plan, therefore i have decided to wait a while and get more people involved in this to actually scrutinise the ideas and then forumulate a real business plan, that is why i have asked everybody to join the yahoo group i have formed ( htttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/martian_cruise )
It will serve as a discussion place for everyone who actually wants to make space colonisation happen than just see it happen! Also, the basic ideas regarding how we plan to do the things are given over there..so i really suggest you join it.

Now coming to Steve, hello man..it does really seem like we are on the same wavelength, NASA has been hogged down by the congress and beaurucracy and i really dont expect it to do anything, also I can already see a government funded mission not only to be overly expensive but also...try to keep everything under the control of USA, in other words another american independence war waiting to happen. A private mission on the other hand does reduce if not completely eliminate those chance. Yes, it is agreed that it will face a lot of skepticisim in the beginning and its a lot of hardwork but in the end it is the way to go. Steve, if you would like to help me out I suggest you join the yahoo group first and start giving your opinions...it has  also been formed for scanning talent and inviting to be a part of our organisation (which will incorporate around december)

Thanks,
Rockie aka Martian4u

I am a  realist and I am talking in real terms because this is possible. I think the space web portal idea put forth by me is the first and formeost thing we should do in order to gather interest in masss as well as the initial capital to begin our research..I know this is hard but like John F Kennedy put it 40 years ago...WE want to do this not because it is easy but because it is hard..( both technically and financially) . I am just one person and its not necessary that all of my ideas are correct, we need more and more ideas as well as modifications and for that I need comrades. you mentioned about Mars society..you see the problem with mars society is that its expecting the govt to do the things and it doesnt look at things from a commercial point of view, NASA has been held down by the congress and i dont expect it to do anything, a private mission will be harder but in the end. it is the way to go, there has to be incentive for people to go there..corporates want profit and we have to show them how viable space is for them. Tell me would you wanna spend 20 billion in getting to mars and get nothing in return..other than just planting a flag? Although our destination is the same, our method of approach towards this goal is different and for this reason..it wouldnt be viable to seek mars society's help unless they consider to modify their approach towards this goal.

hi rakial, its nice to know indeed that so many people in here are actually taking interest in this planned mission of ours.. I have taken into account your opinions but unfortunately i cannot take any decision alone, I will have to talk with the people in my group regarding this suggestion of yours

In the mean time I would like you to talk to me as well, at this point we need anyone who is interested in working towards this goal, wether they work full time, part time or volunteers.

Like i said before my yahoo id is rockie_the_great and my msn id is rockie_the_great@yahoo.com..hope to talk to you as well

Rockie

We can also from the very beginning ask people to work for us for free in exchange for salaries with 6 percent interest as and when the company grows.

WE can then start sellling off our shares and attract more and more investors, with the money we get, we will spend it on recruiting the most ambitious people who WANT to go to space or work towards it, we are going to recruit scientists who will plan and work together and design our space ships, in the mean time we will also research alternate energy reserves and market them to earn extra profit, ok now this is really crazy but we may even start our own production company and make a movie regarding our goal, if the movie is a hit it will do a lot to help finance our mission.

Space is an industry waiting to be exploited, as the new space ships and technology is developed by our scientists we will launch manned missions to the moon. Why the moon ..well because moon provides He 3 which can be used for nuclear fusion reaction and is pollution free we can also use this to power our own planet for 1000 years and drastically reduce costs to goto mars.

I predict 2020-2022 as the time when man first steps on mars and begins colonising it , but i CANNOT do it alone, I need ambitious and energetic people who are willing to give up some of their time in order to pursue a mission which is truly going to be benefecial to humanity

i agree with ur suggestions that recruiting retired specialists and voulnteer astronauts might be viable BUT i dont think it is gonna last fo long, there has to be motivation for something...early on ofcourse there would be volunteer work but slowly this will be turned into a company ..(in one year)and people will be paid what they are worth for, we wont go on a recruiting spree though, we need to have a balance of entrepeneurs, marketing specialists, geologists, biologists and ofcourse rocket scientists. The key toa successful company is to keep the customers happy and also the employees and our company will do just that.

i know people always have had the mentality that a particular thing cant be done, they are like let someone else do it and what are we doing , just sitting on our ass or working for someone, thats how our whole life is gonna be right? Well yes but probably not for our children and grand children, remember expansion is the key to the growth of humans, if christopher columbas never crossed the atlantic we wouldnt be living in this land called america and probably be under the rule of some fuedal lord

THIS thing is totally serious, we can accomplish this on our own and by corporate funding as this organisation grows, although salaries will be paid, the owners arent gonna get profit since all of the profit will go for research into technology, we will need a team of scientists, entrapeneurs doctors alike, hell anyone who is interested

Those who think that NASA is going to do it , well forget about it bush explicitly said mars is not on their plan right now, its time WE DID IT

100 percent of the shares will belong to the company.....ok i guess it was misleading i should clear it out,everyone will get a salary according to their work wether it is a clerk or a ceo, the extra profit that the company gets after the work will go into further development of the enterprise, and ofcourse we will sell shares to shareholders, but the 100 pecent share belonging to the company is an initial thing, slowly ofcourse sares will be sold

I have everything planned out, but right now i need willing people who can work hard, if they can bring in capital as well that would be cool but its not required now, we will be applying for a loan soon.

i am very much impressed by the content of red colony.com and marssociety.org and there is no doubt you guys house some of the best ideas required for us to go to the red planet

Id like to give u some history about myself Ive always wanted to go to mars as a kid, i looked up at the stars and i used to think how good it would be up there away from the tensions of the world..by age 8 i had decided to be an astronaut!But wait nasa consistently seemed to give me setbacks and now i think even the moon is not the priority contrary to popular belif.There are promoting diplomacy with the help of the ISS, I think ISS is a big waste of time and money

I have decided to do it, im very much inspired by daniel hay's mars project, but a not for profit corporation wont go far.WE NEED TO WORK AS A TEAM, Im planning to establish a space enterprise whose mission statement is to colonise extraterrestrial worlds within our life time, lets not put the burden on our future generations, lets do it ourselves. The official launch of the company will take place within one year , but we have to develop the basic infrastructure and start with the business plan. There is no doubt you people are ambitious and so am i ..MArs society has geologists, biologists,students, potential astronauts alike who would die just to be able to live on mars for a day! . Believe me guys have faith in yourself and have faith and god...and if interested join my company, i assure u its not a fly by night thing, thats the reason why we will spend 1 year under development, this thing has to become the biggest damn space enterprise on the planet and it wont be possible without you guys

It will be a profit oriented joint stock company and 100 percent of shares will belong to the company initially and be sold off to investors by a decision undertaken by the board of the directors, large salaries will be given for sure but not in the beginning, as of now i need volunteers to help set up the company , this company has to be launched by Feb 15 2005, if u guys can bring in capital or help us in getting a loan we would be more than obliged but at this moment we need hard working and willing people who will do it. MOST of the profit will go into designing space vehicles for the future

This is a call to the arms
ARE you in?

PS- If its in ur mind to joke about this thing, please dont even bother to reply, i need serious minded people who will together accomplish humanity's next step....Extraterrestrial colonisation