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sorry shaun & hazer,

i haven't read your message before writing the other one.

the 3.6 tonnes/m2 are not only caught by the regolith on the top but also by the construction of the geodesic dome. together they should keep the building in crater.

hazer, i don't know exactly what you mean with aerogel, but it sounds very expensive. why not pouring so much regolith on the building until it insulated well enough? there is enough regolith on mars to insulate the whole planet...

if the buidlings would be placed (for what reason ever) near the frosty poles, we could additionally powder them with some meters of snow, what would even increase the insulation.

see, there are enough holes on mars, so we don't need to dig new ones. and life on mars will be a life in caves. either surrounded by lithium-teflon-aerogel-whatever or regolith and a layer of cheap plastic.

note: usually i engaged in lightweight construction, but it seems to me that here are enough which fancy this type. so i just try to diversify the discussion a bit.

regards,
christoph

hello shaun,

thank you for your answer. a few hours ago i stumbled at amazon about zubrin's book you've mentioned. unluckily it is not outselled in the german version at the moment. perhaps it should buy it in english so i would better unterstand the martian dialect here in the forum...anyway

since the mars has no ozone layer to destroy, why don't we equip the rovers with those v8 motors getting banned on earth at the moment? they would even emit less sound, because the martian atmosphere is so thin.

i'm sure that halliburton inc. will be pleased about the order to build a pipeline to mars...

getting more and more unserious
christoph

dear john,

there is water packed in the polar caps, though i don't know the ratio.

i am wondering wether it would be possible to design a kind of bacterium which eats/smelts the ice and starts the greenhouse effect. just throwing a handy box with them on mars and the show begins! (without nuclear contamination.)

any biologist here?

planting some trees or whatever on the poles should be possible after modifying them on earth. we can simulate a martian atmosphere here - "air", temerature, air pressure, ground are no problem, only the gravity is 3 times higher on earth. (this is probably one of the smaller problems.)

sure, we won't be able to grow oaks or orchids on mars, but moss or fern are simple and minimalistic enough to get genetic manupulated.

anyway i prefer the bacteries. stopping them from population and stopping them from mutating could cause problems.

greetings from southern germany, where it is not less cold than on mars
lmvdr

does anybody have information about the martian atmosphere in general and information about how the sun radiations are filtered through it? what about ultraviolet light?

i expect there are greater amounts of it, since the martian atmosphere is more thin than on earth, right? on the other hand the mars is more than 1.5 times distanced from sun than the earth...

are photovoltaik panels on mars more efficient than on earth?

excuse me for asking this elemantary stuff, but as you might see, i am just a (maybe upcoming) junior member.

thanx
lmvdr

ps: how does beagle 2 do? i really hope they can find it and make it work. it is very, very important for old europe.

hey rxke,
since i don't plan to settle on mars during this week, it's okay when discussion starts at a low frequence...  :;):

i am not a native speaker (as you), so please excuse me when my thoughts sound a bit confusing.

with "flat geodesic sphere" i mean a very low height, so that it is very flat.

this sketch of a section through the crater should help you to imagine my idea...

thanx
lmvdr