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"I can break that animal illusion down if you want, but going by my years of experience it is an illusion."

hey TM, please do and btw, you know we are on the same side right?

ok before you do, you do have a pair of red/cyan glasses right?
I don't even waste my time in 2D anymore. if you want to REALLY  "see" Mars, one must "see" in depth of field otherwise you're only educating the brain with one eye closed!
the faux creature standing there is not a living being IMO but only a facsimile of one. And I too have now chalked up well over 15 years of image analysis.
trust me, brother, invest in a pair. Here ya go;
https://www.amazon.com/Red-Blue-Anaglyp … 216&sr=8-6

Spirit Rover Sol 87

    On Sol 87, the Spirit Rover sent back to earth some remarkable images. These raw image files were acquired from NASA https://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/2 … 3L0M1.HTML

    The raw image data appears to show a huge "Bear-like" animal in the distance.

    In some circles, it is claimed to be debunked as a large rock boulder, nothing more.

    As I scanned the NASA site and also images on the internet, I could not find one 3D image anywhere, and as the rover was equipped with a stereo camera for navigation, it was quite simple to produce some beautiful 3D images with good, not great, but decent resolution.

    The hi-mag clips show a revealing tale.

    Is this a huge animal mozying across the Martian plain, or could it be something else? Perhaps just a giant Martian scarecrow?

    Using the available two stereo files, I was able to forge this excellent 3D image for evaluation,

    Below is the 3D image from the raw stereo images gathered from the two Navcam cameras mounted up high. They are taken at roughly ground level.

Magnified to the "suspect" in question, we can now see so much greater depth of field than the 2D below

In an effort to try and get a better 3D effect for close up the magnification, in the image below, you may need to pull back and forth until you get a nice sense of the depth of field.

The lower is forged for viewing at close range.

So the question now is, what is it? One thing I did notice was that the "BLC" (Bear Like Creature) did not move in the frames as first suspected and will show the evidence a little later.

Upon close inspection in anaglyph, I noticed the BLC was sporting a sort of garment with a collar and even round buttons!

For all intents and purposes (literally), I believe the "statue" is intended to be a representation of a familiar earthlike creature although.....quite alien!

Stunning!

At present, the MRO has snapped just one-tenth of of 1% of the Martian surface and only discernable images are in grayscale, not color. Although they have MRO color, they are worthless for research. Thank you NASA!

One of the main reasons researchers of Martian images get stumped in finding new evidence, is the human propensity to search for familiar geometric constructs and then try to compare findings to that of structures on Earth. Good but not great.

We need to switch gears and look to alien constructs which are not necessarily geometric.

Finding remnants of an ancient civilization becomes productive when we choose to search for "the alien mind".

So, I will begin to post some images which I have personally located over five years of research.

I won't go into much detail of "where" accept for one or two, they will be either from the MRO or Mars Express. If you need more info, please let me know.   

Have fun....life out there is BIG!

Nice examples of "Earth desert mirages"

No stranger to the western US deserts, I've clocked hundreds of miles, off road in the Mojave desert aboard my trustee two wheeled machines and have seen too many mirages to wave a stick at.

The difference is this. If you see a "inverted" reflection "in" the vision, it's more than likely water.

Still, a mirage requires less dense hot air at the surface both of which are supposedly not present on Mars. The possibility of "inferior" mirages I guess could occur but unlikely.

I have some 3D images showing vast water puddles from the Pathfinder lander but you will need anaglyph glasses. Do you have a pair?

Always great to see your images Tmcom although I wish we could see better detail in these artifact ridden images from NASA.

I just can't get over the fact that we send a multi million dollar lander to the planet's surface and from a meager distance of only several meters, we receive these "blurry's"....really? Are we to believe such fibs?

Every now and then I like to forge a 3D from the mast cams. Here's a nice whopper! 0526ML0020710000203142E01_DXXX

Yes an interesting find for sure  but I cannot take credit... just for the "3D" for what it's worth. The image appeared on the Giggapan site.

I've looked closely too and cannot make out where the depth of field is captured (or lack of it) in the anaglyph, which is a bit of a red flag. But still, a strange anomaly nevertheless. My gut tells me it's not vegetation but looks more like an odd antenna or aerial of sorts.

I've created a few 3D anaglyph's of recent Curiosity landscapes from the left and right mast-cams. Sol 590 https://mars.nasa.gov/msl//multimedia/r … ?slide=590

Not easy to do as the two Cameras capture different aspect ratios. But well worth the effort. If you haven't got 3D red/cyan glasses yet, you don't know what you're missing!

Enjoy!

In the 2D image below, I used the Auto color corrector in Irfanview on both the top and lower half on this image file.

It does appear from the histogram, that there is many instances of green buried in the over saturated red image from NASA.

I am no stranger to the western US deserts and clocked up hundreds of hours on a powerful Enduro machine in ALL seasons. The upper half to me, shows not only green lichen but considerable plant growth.

Could humans (or anything else) survive on Lichen?

http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/Lichens_as_food

There are records of lichens being used as food by many different human cultures across the world. Lichens are eaten by people in North America, Europe, Asia, and Africa, and perhaps elsewhere. Often lichens are merely famine foods eaten in times of dire needs, but in some cultures lichens are a staple food or even a delicacy. Two problems often encountered with eating lichens is that they usually contain mildly toxic secondary compounds, and that lichen polysaccharides are generally indigestible to humans. Many human cultures have discovered preparation techniques to overcome these problems. Lichens are often thoroughly washed, boiled, or soaked in ash water to help remove secondary compounds.

In the past Iceland moss (Cetraria islandica) was an important human food in northern Europe and Scandinavia, and was cooked in many different ways, such as bread, porridge, pudding, soup, or salad. Wila (Bryoria fremontii) was an important food in parts of North America, where it was usually pitcooked. It is even featured in a Secwepemc story. Reindeer lichen (Cladina spp.) is a staple food of reindeer and caribou in the Arctic. Northern peoples in North America and Siberia traditionally eat the partially digested lichen after they remove it from the rumen of caribou that have been killed. It is often called 'stomach icecream'. Rock tripe (Umbilicaria spp. and Lasalia spp.) is a lichen that has frequently been used as an emergency food in North America. One species of Umbilicaria, Iwa-take (U. esculenta), is used in a variety of traditional Korean and Japanese foods. It is quite expensive, and is collected off the sides of cliffs. In India, and other centers of curry powder production, garam masala sauce contains certain lichens used as bulking agents.

Very few lichens are poisonous. Poisonous lichens include those high in vulpinic acid[6] or usnic acid.[6] Most (but not all) lichens that contain vulpinic acid are yellow, so any yellow lichen should be considered to be potentially poisonous.

Yes, Layered sedimentary "compressed" is flat, it just looked odd there "wrapped" or "curved".

I don't think it's rock, my guess is a drifted dead plant shell of sort.

I get the workload here and can appreciate the time taken.

Can you post a direct link for the three images you posted above in #470?

Thanks again.

Looking at this "thing" I get the impression there is the very pointed head or face to the very left of the body.

If anyone knows the resource page for this image below, there maybe a stereo image which case should through light on it.

I'll keep my eye out for those. Suggesting movement hmmm, well could be, but take a look at that vertebra close up once again and if I'm not mistaken, there does appear to be a small critter of sorts or maybe a snake, very cute!