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#1 Re: Not So Free Chat » Politics » 2018-04-19 10:27:34

Terraformer wrote:

Here are a few ideas.

In the short run, they're hoping for an economic boost. In the long run, they'll be dead, so they don't care much about the long run.

A lot of them still feel guilty about europeans going to Africa and civilising it stealing their stuff colonising it, and think we can make it up to them by letting them come here and take our stuff. Such is the collectivist mindset.

A stubborn belief in multiculturalism, and that human beings are fungible - a Turk can step onto German soil, and he instantly becomes as much a German as those whose ancestors actually built the place.

They are firm believers in the cult of progress. The idea that civilisation is fragile, and that what Europe has is a historical aberration that should be carefully preserved, is anathema to them.

They see other places as cesspools, and wish to save their inhabitants from such a fate. The question of why they are cesspools is not asked.

GDP is their No. 1 priority. Anything that increases it is by definition good.

They have a disdain for the common folk, and wish to dissolve their people and elect another.

They are uncultured swine who actually believe, as a result, that white people have no culture, and so wish to import one from abroad.

Thank you for the reply. :-)

#2 Re: Not So Free Chat » Politics » 2018-04-17 12:32:58

kbd512 wrote:

Palomar7,

I'll never understand why any moral leftists or liberals or whatever they're choosing to call themselves now, assuming there were any such people to begin with, would want the potential victims of criminals to be defenseless in the face the current crop of hyper violent human predators.  Those liberals claim to believe in science and technology, but when it comes to using technology to retain the most basic freedom, the right to be alive, they seem to support legislative policy decisions that are indefensible in the face or objective reality.

Disarming the potential victims has never, in all of human history, lead to better outcomes for the victims.  People who have never broken any laws do not need their liberties taken from them to protect them from criminals that the government has no intention nor ability to protect them from.  Objective reality says a woman half the size of a criminal who is more than twice as strong as she is won't win any fist fights with that man.  The "science" of that last statement is more crystal clear than "climate change" has ever been or ever will be.

My wife should not have to run away from a man half her age and twice her size, nor should my children.  Their mother should have the right to defend herself and her children, with lethal force, if absolutely necessary.  If I'm around, then that burden is not her responsibility.  If I can't be, and as someone who travels frequently for work there are times when I can't be, then I want her armed with the most effective tools she can possibly have.  If criminals are afraid of what she will do if they try to attack her or her children, then I think that's fantastic.

I once asked the man who trained me, the undefeated kickboxing champion in the state of Texas for ten years (this was many years ago), why it was that he carried a pistol with him, given how fast, strong, and experienced he was at fighting.  His reply was simple, but seemed quite reasonable at the time.  "There's always someone bigger, faster, and stronger than you are, but I've never seen anyone outrun a bullet."  That made good common sense to me when I was 16 and it still makes sense to me at 37.  A fight for your life is not about fairness and it's not about proving you're a man or woman or the best fighter on the planet.  It's about surviving and living to fight another day.

I completely agree.

And now I'm seeing a comment by the French PM, Msr. Macron, that Europe's fate will be entwined with Africa's.

Now I understand being charitable. Welcoming in x-number of immigrants (provided most of the citizenry aren't adversely effected). Etc. And that immigrants be willing to assimilate, work, contribute positively.

--also that it was SYRIAN refugees given the original invite by Angela Merkel--

Msr. Macron's comment despite rape epidemic in Sweden (and elsewhere). Knife and acid attacks in London. Old people in Germany taking self-defense courses (how fast can an 80-year-old move?).

I'm trying to figure out what exactly is prompting "come one, come all." The Native Americans instinctively knew that was a bad idea. They didn't go for it.

So is Msr. Macron (and Company's) "come one, come all" ideal predicated on:

1. "1492 Guilt"?
2. Greed/Sellout (they're in the pocket of Globalist elite)?
3. Stubborn misguided idealism?
4. Fad (other Western nations are doing it!)?
5. The End Times (religious)?

I'm curious as to what folks here think is the impetus.

#3 Re: Human missions » Sagan City - what will be there? » 2018-04-17 12:25:46

Oh, I *like* Sagan City. :-)

Hopefully it will be.

#4 Re: Not So Free Chat » Politics » 2018-04-16 17:37:22

kbd512 wrote:

The only consistency that I've ever seen is that individual people who choose to commit random acts of violence seldom, if ever, go to places where they know the people there can effectively fight back.  They seem to prefer unarmed victims who can't fight back.

If we're at all concerned about limiting the damage done by violent criminals, then we'll create a society in which both the general public and our government can effectively fight back against them.  That starts with being armed and trained.  There are no acceptable substitutes because the Police can't be exactly where you need them at the exact moment they're needed.

Agreed.

It pains me to see people elsewhere turned into "sitting ducks" for violence...then accused of being racist or whatever if they fight back (with a screw driver or whatever's handy).

Never, ever want to see that *here.* My husband's disabled and I'm not getting younger. I do NOT want basic trips to the grocery store turning into frightening ordeals.

I want the option of being armed (currently I'm not).

#5 Re: Not So Free Chat » Politics » 2018-04-16 17:31:36

Terraformer wrote:

The UK isn't that dangerous. It's mainly just the big cities, but then that's always been the case. Stay out of London, though.

I am sincerely relieved to know that. And do hope the folks in charge reinstate "stop and search" (correct term? I Googled). Apparently Theresa May nixed that (fear of being accused of racism).

I do wish every decent, law-abiding person in the UK well.

#6 Re: Not So Free Chat » Politics » 2018-04-16 10:38:48

p.s. - what brought this up was coverage on "Good Morning America" (husband watches it) of the upcoming wedding of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. While I wish this couple the best of a happy future, I'm (unfortunately not too stunned) at the attitude of GMA and Andrew Morton, that it's just another day in Britain, whose citizens are gearing up for a big celebration.

Comparisons to Princess Diana.

As if this is the 1980s!

I remember (also via GMA, which I did watch as a teenager then) upfront published concerns that the IRA might try to disrupt Charles and Diana's 1981 wedding. Street "lamps" on the routes were checked for bombs. Etc.

But in 2018's London all is merry and bright for a festive wedding!

Sorta blows my mind. I guess terrorism is only to be mentioned and feared if it's Irish terrorists?

Can we say DENIAL?

#7 Re: Not So Free Chat » Politics » 2018-04-16 10:11:20

GW Johnson wrote:

Violence is due to many factors.  One often overlooked is simple population density.  Putting too many rats in one box leads to rats killing and eating each other and their own young.  Sound familiar?

GW

Yep.

And I must say (not gloating in the least)...here in USA you're (currently) most at risk in a public school. Then "the workplace."

It seems in the UK (especially London), you're at risk. Period. Continually.

An average of 1 machete attack every 90 minutes. :-o

Six people stabbed within an hour's time recently (unsure if via machete or "mere" knife).

I am not in a public school nor a workplace (I work at home). I'm relatively safe.

But if I were wandering around London (and other major cities) as a tourist? Apparently I'm at extreme and ongoing risk for being stabbed, mugged, acid attack.

Can't fathom it. It's bad enough here!

#8 Re: Not So Free Chat » Politics » 2018-04-16 06:10:56

There sure are LOTS of knife/machete attacks in England.

Yes, I know there's gun violence here (currently it seems knife attacks there outnumber gun incidents here).

New York City natives residing in London are getting scared. THAT'S BAD!

#9 Re: Not So Free Chat » Politics » 2018-04-04 06:27:11

RobertDyck wrote:

In the summer of 2016, when border towns in Manitoba complained about the burden of all the refugees walking across the border from North Dakota, a federal minister showed up with a cheque. After all, compared to immigrants, they're actually a small number. Those who walked across during winter... effectively punished themselves. Some had fingers and toes amputated due to frost bite. Do you realize how cold a Manitoba winter is?

No. Growing up in northern USA was bad enough, lol.

I noticed that Justin Trudeau (or whomever) put a SWIFT kabosh on El Salvadorans wanting to go to Canada after their US Visas were about to expire. In sharp contrast to the prior "All Are Welcome" (Merkel's notion).

Yes, despite the constant Leftist drivel of "all Whites are evil racists," it turns out lots of non-White folk want to live among us. I guess that Leftist notion didn't jibe with reality.

#10 Re: Not So Free Chat » Politics » 2018-04-02 17:17:52

RobertDyck wrote:

Why would I believe 1.1 billion people are coming.

I'm just the reluctant messenger of alleged news.

It's "according to a [recent] study by the Pew Research Centre."

On 5th (not-as-shocked read), it's actually 2/3 of a 1.1 billion population.

Which is still a lot of people.

How many refugees does the US accept each year?

Well, there's legal acceptance. Then there's being foisted upon. I don't know.

Considering my husband's health isn't good and I'm not getting any younger, have no sons to protect me...

I'm sorry for their situation, but I'd also be sorry for a simple trip to the grocery store becoming an ordeal. I've been keeping tabs on what European women are enduring. <_<

I've been rather rattled the past 2 years; 2016 blew my mind. At this point I think just about anything is possible. :-\

#11 Re: Not So Free Chat » Politics » 2018-04-02 15:38:54

Terraformer wrote:

Oh, those won't be a problem. There won't be a government left to levy taxes...

How did it work out for the Romans?

Yeah.

But I thought I'd break the alleged news gently.

#12 Re: Not So Free Chat » Politics » 2018-04-02 14:46:22

There are an alleged 1.1 BILLION people from 3rd-world regions who are allegedly intent on migrating to Europe and USA within 5 years' time.

If that is true and comes to pass, I think it's a safe bet to say we'll be kissing our space exploration plans goodbye. The tremendous strain on the taxpayer + intercultural difficulties for starters.

#14 Not So Free Chat » A warning from Richard Dawkins » 2018-03-22 17:44:49

Palomar7
Replies: 6

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/2449b900-c … warns.html

Despite my own exceptionally bad experiences with Christianity (never again, thank you), I agree with Dawkins (haven't followed him closely ever, but know enough of the man that this statement surprised me).

Don't celebrate the (alleged) demise of Christianity in Europe for the reasons he stated.

Which isn't to say all folks of that other religion are bad; they aren't. I've worked with adherents to that religion. But there are very real and frightening current troubles within the religion itself, which Christianity has pretty much resolved.

#15 Re: Not So Free Chat » How did you cope? » 2018-03-11 18:18:46

I never expected to go into space myself (personally).

It's been within the past 10 years that I've (very reluctantly) come to terms with perhaps never seeing people on Mars. There is still some hope, though, and I've easily got another 30 years.

But most of my hopes/dreams have seriously dwindled. It's been incredibly surprising (and disappointing!) to me how much "other/outside/unexpected" factors can come into play...can ruin stuff for you. Even if you gave "it" 100%, had good intentions, "played your cards right", etc. Very chagrining.

#16 Re: Not So Free Chat » Politics » 2018-03-10 11:24:23

Senator Elizabeth Warren has (supposedly) agreed to take a DNA test to prove her self-claimed Native American heritage.

Such testing will prove it; my sister took a DNA/ancestry test in October. She kept it a secret and surprised me with the results yesterday. We'd been told a maternal near-relative was Native American...and sure enough, we're 0.4% Native.

It ain't much but it's proven.

If Senator Warren doesn't follow through, she needs to quit with the claims.

#17 Re: Not So Free Chat » Why do we have Poverty in America » 2018-03-09 08:41:00

The word "Democrats" come to mind (thanks to Latino husband and Latino in-laws, who woke me up).

I'm registered Independent, if anyone's wondering.

#19 Re: Not So Free Chat » Husband's high school reunion » 2018-03-07 18:11:05

JoshNH4H wrote:

Wishing you a successful surgery and a rapid recovery!

Yes indeed.

#20 Re: Not So Free Chat » Husband's high school reunion » 2018-03-07 15:14:29

IanM wrote:

I graduated from high school 2.5 years ago, Class of 2015.

Whippersnapper. ;-p

I already keep in touch with good friends in this age of social media (EDIT: And I meet up with them at least once every year), I don't particularly think I'd attend mine.

This is a rather unsocial area (I'm from 1300 miles away), and these folks aren't keeping in touch via social media either. My husband is unusually sociable for being a native. I wish this h.s. reunion good luck...it needs it.

Your reply makes me wonder if such reunions will soon become obsolete. If they're not (unofficially) already.

#21 Re: Not So Free Chat » Husband's high school reunion » 2018-03-07 12:52:09

I'm class of 1983.

It's starting to feel "like a while ago" now. :-]

JoshNH4H

My 5-year high school reunion would have been a couple years ago.  I'm not sure if I wasn't invited or it didn't happen at all, but I wouldn't have gone anyway.

Didn't like most of those people when I was 16 and I see no reason why I'd like them more now.

Well, there's that. In my 25 years with D, this is only the 2nd such reunion (that town a scant 35 miles away). He later talked (in person) to a former classmate who was irate and angry at having "not been invited" before. Again, this is only the 2nd reunion that I'm aware of. So already there's hard feelings. It's already started on sour notes (sad).

GW Johnson

There's not so many left now,  but she and I were fortunate enough to like quite a lot of them.

Ah, folks your age know how to socialize. ^_^

#22 Not So Free Chat » Husband's high school reunion » 2018-03-07 09:40:27

Palomar7
Replies: 12

It's in the works. Class of 1978.

He and 3 others met up Sunday night at a local sports bar and grill to start making plans.

Apparently all 3 former classmates want to be CREMATED after they DIE.

:-\

Such merriment and lighthearted banter already! :-p

If plans do go through, I'll attend one function with husband "just because." And hope it's not all doom, gloom, people discussing funeral plans. <_< Yes, there are a lot of troubles in the world, but c'mon...

#23 Re: Not So Free Chat » Advice to parents on school options » 2018-03-02 09:39:28

I am glad to see that Dick's Sporting Goods (and husband says Walmart too?) are no longer selling firearms (just assault rifles or any sort?) to people under age 21. I think that is incredibly wise. By age 21 you're (average) 3 years away from high school (enemies, frustrations, angst). Might be happier in college or the excitement of a "real job", etc. It's about time Corporate America is willing to sacrifice some profits. <_<

#24 Re: Space Policy » Proof That UFO's are Real! » 2018-03-02 09:33:05

I'll admit that we're going to visit the UFO Museum in Roswell this month. First visit was in 1982; a family vacation. This time will be husband and I driving through (25th wedding anniversary), and I'd like to see it again.

#25 Re: Not So Free Chat » Advice to parents on school options » 2018-02-26 14:15:50

@RealJamesWoods

It will be a real catastrophe if evidence emerges that the four #Broward deputies were told not to engage the killer. There was either a training problem, a communication problem, or a command problem. It’s too easy to call men “cowards.” Something is rotten in this whole deal.

To which @Skippykite replied:

It seems highly improbable that all 4 would be cowards... one yes.... maybe two but not 4 deputies.  This smacks of a stand down order.  They should have disobeyed it but clearly there is something more than what we are hearing.

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