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Couldn't it just stop near a plant and take a picture?
Even with the blurry crap NASA gives us for the Curiosity rover it is still obvious.
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My apologies tahanson, agreed a great resource and ideal for a forum like this, so feel free to transfer this to a more suitable section.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hrMbMk3Su4
James Web telescope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX5iVyfF3N0&t=79s
Which apparently doesn't carry far, (for obvious reasons).
that would be a first
And no doubt Russia has gone the cheap way, and bought a $2000 unit thrown it on top of a top secret Mars mission, rover, and hacked the software.
Flys for a good half hour, unless it hits a tree?
https://www.iflscience.com/space/china- … -familiar/
China has revealed plans for what it is calling a "Mars cruise drone", and it looks very familiar to another flying vehicle we all know and love traversing the skies of the Red Planet right now.
If they--or Buzz Aldrin--had encountered the situations you described, survival would have been strictly a matter of luck.
If he had he would have sealed up the suits with tape, contacted Mission control and tried to dock with the ISS, instead of losing his head, bawling his eyes out, and probably burning up on reentry.
Your name does you justice.
I've suggested before the Biden administration is actively seeking to stymie Space X.
The tension is now out in the open. Musk has criticised "sleepy Joe" for failing to congratulate his company and people on this highly successful mission, the first of its kind, and a testimony to the US's continuing ability to make major technological advances, not least by attracting the brightest and best from all around the world (something China or Russia can never do).
Probably becuase Musk won't touch his jab, and just like our Premier is having a temper tantrum.
Thanks tahanson43206, SpaceNut, no l was tired, saw this on Skynews, and thought since no one had posted it, it would be a good subject or fit for this forum.
And my definition of "Amateur" is Buzz, having extensive experience in aircraft, and an almost fatal accident, flying a Lunar Lander type jet craft on Earth and he ejected, when it malfunctioned and almost tipped over and killed him.
That helped him while landing on the moon, and ignoring all the computers screaming at him, while he avoided a large rock in the target crater and landing with seconds to spare.
A few months of training is fine, but if they really got into a bad situation, would they still be alive? Or if the engineer had never been in a life and death situation, how would it have been if an asteroid hit the rocket, and they had to get back to Earth with a cracked windscreen, and damaged space suits?
Buzz Aldrin was a professional, since he had proven that he can keep his head, while in a bad situation.
For Tmcom .... your topic here is the best match (I'm hoping) for this update....
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/sp … 06942.html
SpaceX capsule with world's first all-civilian orbital crew set for splashdown
The Dragon capsule, dubbed Resilience, is scheduled to parachute into the sea around 7 p.m. Eastern time, shortly before sunset, according to SpaceX, the private rocketry company founded by Tesla Inc electric automaker CEO Elon Musk.
According to Google, the planned landing is set for before 11 PM UTC.
I certainly hope the flight is a complete success!
There are plenty more billionaires with $200MM pocket change.
We should see many more such flights if this one goes well.
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Agreed 200m to them is their dream home, and luxury yacht
Its to bad that they did not get to get out of the capsule into another orbiting station even if it was nothing but an inflatable like BEAM least it would have been something.
Four SpaceX space tourists set to return to Earth tonight
Billionaire Jared Isaacman financed the trip, paying SpaceX tens of millions of dollars.
Isaacman, who led the mission, offered the other three seats to strangers:
Hayley Arceneaux, a 29-year-old nurse;
Sian Proctor, a 51-year-old professor; and
Chris Sembroski, a 42-year-old US Air Force veteran.
They would have to sign a disclosure before they could get into the ISS, but true they where higher up than the ISS, so could have visited.
Methane, mainly comes from the top part of Mars, or any habitable, zones concentrate in the strongest magnetic field areas.
Mars also has plenty of oxygen coming off its surface, which throws mud at NASA's coverstory.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuHWvpo_4zs&t=56s
In 50 years time, on top of waiting 24 years to see anything.
Mars is closer. But still cool.
The 15 m-wide first stage main parachute will open while the descent module is still travelling at supersonic speeds, and the 35 m-wide second stage main parachute is deployed once at subsonic speeds.
Hope they change the color.
PS l PM you, on my forum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNx9hcrUpww&t=71s
Amazing how fast it can fly through all of that 98% carbon dioxide.
All of these worlds are yours except Europa, attempt no landing there, or a black monolith will teabag you.
Well, something like that.
Tmcom wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG-7J0LC8i4
It will fly, but don't get your hopes up for any breakthroughs.
Apart from the worlds most expensive selfie.
Not really a drone but yes its about to make history...
NASA's Ingenuity to attempt its first flight at 12:30pm Mars time
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/ten … 60&o=f&l=f
Ingenuity is expected to soar Sunday, April 11 from a 33-by-33-foot piece of Martian real estate that is the first airfield on a another planet
True there is that, and all they can do is preset a course, (can't fly some thing that will crash in a short while with a 20 minute delay).
There is a topic for this already.....
Scouting Mars by Helicopter
Ok.
A relative sent this link: https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/10/world/ma … index.html
It reports on the automatic shutdown of the pre-flight testing.
SearchTerm:Ingenuity helicopter on Mars
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Microsoft must have created the code.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG-7J0LC8i4
It will fly, but don't get your hopes up for any breakthroughs.
Apart from the worlds most expensive selfie.
Interesting article.
“My hope is that humanity is smart enough not to go back to this type of earthly protection. Just protect it. That’s enough. Just protect it and have everybody agree..."
Hmmm...a little naive I think. What about the other Apollo sites? How do you define protection? Can someone set up a hotel at the scene even if they don't muck around with the site itself?
I think there needs to be a formal protection mechanism for the Moon.
Can't now recall what was in the Moon Treaty but I don't think it ever gained many signatures and was pretty useless.
An International Lunar Co-operation Organisation is required I think similar to arrangements for the Antarctic.
I don't think this should serve as a model for Mars - which I want to see create its own sovereign authority.
Agreed, there should be a couple of km's zone around the landing site, where the only tourism is via a hovering bus or space drone, (pretty much destroy it if there is a Maccers on the horizon).
https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 … gency-moon
You will have tourists trampling all over the place soon, so some futuristic gangplanks need to be installed, let along pesky, rovers.
Not sure if they can heritage list the Apollo module in space though?
That occurs when its warm and then suddenly gets colder as it would happen from going from day towards night as the vapor would condense and fall...
Agreed, but l didn't spot any indications of frost before hand, and going by the biggest drop l saw, it pooled under the rovers wires and remained there until someone at JPL moved the rover.
This was most likely after the Martian sun, evaporated most of the raindrops away, (although l found the occasional one or more).
PS Good to hear from you Spacenut, check out my music thread when you can, hit the jackpot recently.
Look at old photos of the original Viking landings and you will find one with frost, taken early in the morning.
https://solarviews.com/cap/mars/frost.htmAs temperatures declined over night, water vapour that had evaporated from the regolith during the day, frosted out on the surface. As temperatures increased throughout the day, it sublimed. Could it melt giving rise to water droplets before it evaporated? Actually, yes. The atmospheric pressure at Curiosity's landing site was found to fluctuate between 690 and 790Pa. The vapour pressure of water at 0°C is 611Pa. If the surface of Mars rocks is contaminated with soluble salts like perchlorate, then frost could melt at temperatures as low as -40°C.
So yes, it is possible for water droplets to form on the surface of Mars. If there is sufficient salt content and the ice melts far beneath the usual freezing point of water, the vapour pressure of the brine (which declines as a function of temperature) could be substantially lower than the local atmospheric pressure on Mars. So it is possible for water droplets to hang around, without imminently freezing due to evapouration.
It doesn't take an elaborate conspiracy theory to explain this. It is plausible under established conditions. It is in fact entirely possible that parts of the Martian surface contain enough liquid water to get muddy at certain times of the year. But that mud would form from saturated brine rather from pure water. It is unlikely to contain microbes, though we won't know for sure until a visiting science team examine the mud under a microscope.
The global average atmospheric pressure on Mars is 610Pa. That is just 1Pa beneath the vapour pressure of pure water at normal freezing point. That is unlikely to be a coincidence. Carbon dioxide is highly soluble in liquid water, forming carbonic acid. Any CO2 dissolving into liquid water on Mars would react with bases in the regolith to form stable carbonates. The low pressure of the Martian atmosphere is likely the result of a long established equilibrium between the atmosphere and frozen water ice.
Except that my video, has water droplets on the rover itself, and no frost before hand.
As l said hard evidence of rain!
Adding all of the other evidence that Mars is not a dead rock!
Ice crystals in those supposed pressures will boil away when they melt, they won't melt first then hold them melt on command.
Yeah, unsubstantiated propaganda!