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#1 Re: Human missions » How to kill Mars Direct - DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! » 2004-01-14 15:35:44

Was I the only one who noticed that NASA TV played a mars-direct-ish shuttle-C 5-minute animation right after the president's speech?

Sure looks sensible, and politically-safe to me - keep all those shuttle workers employed, but working on something sensible.

Tim

#2 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Retire The Shuttle, Designer Says - End spaceflight until we have good ship » 2003-05-17 06:02:39

LOS ANGELES, May 16 ?  Human spaceflight should be stopped until a better vehicle than the current shuttle is produced, one of the most honored U.S. space engineers told the Los Angeles Times.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/914720.asp?0dm=C12LT

#3 Re: Not So Free Chat » France = axis of Evil » 2003-05-16 06:20:09

BTW, tim, I think you linked the wrong article, nowhere is anything about France, negative or otherwise, mentioned in that article. If anything it insults the US, on several different points I need not even address.

Blah. France supported Saddam until the bitter end, and profited from him being in power, no less.

#4 Re: Not So Free Chat » France = axis of Evil » 2003-05-15 22:06:53

I wonder if genocide is part of the smear campaign, after all France supported Saddam to the bitter end:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/mid … ory=406312

#5 Re: Not So Free Chat » Where are all the adults? - Read this article » 2003-05-14 11:22:35

I thought it was a good piece. It vaguely sounded like what I wrote in my op-ed about focusing on realistic goals first, like materials research and scramjets. (both are progressing and of keen interest to the military)

DARPA scramjet test:
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/scramjet-01a.html

Australian scramjet test:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2160502.stm

NASA hyper-x
http://oea.larc.nasa.gov/PAIS/Hyper-X.html

Reagan's Orient Express:
http://www.fas.org/irp/mystery/nasp.htm

#6 Re: Not So Free Chat » USA, UN, The World - Yankee Rose speaks her mind :) » 2003-05-13 12:56:29

Tim - the Bush goal was not merely to remove Saddam. His bigger goal was to remove Saddam in a way that discredited the United Nations and marginalized the French. Saddam was the tool not the objective.

If it was the plan, the UN and French played right into their hands. I'm more inclined to believe Bush actually wanted to go through the UN, even if the various neocons didn't. Whether the UN/French were "right" or not is a pretty gray area IMHO. There certainly was no justification as far as WMD were concerned, but there were various other reasons which some people could say was sufficient to start that war (genocide of Kurds and Marsh Arabs for starters)

No, we support whoever we must as long as *our* interests are served. We don't support Cuba or Iran becuase doing so dosen't further our interests.

Fair enough. That's geopolitics and realpolitik - it just so happens that we have all the high cards right now. France and Russia are scratching around trying to create a couple of high-ish cards (maybe 6's and 7's) which they lost some time back. It's not just the US rooting around for power, it's everyone, that's how it works.

#7 Re: Not So Free Chat » USA, UN, The World - Yankee Rose speaks her mind :) » 2003-05-13 12:23:35

And Arab's are being rounded up, or ordered to register at the local INS. People are fingerprinted upon  arrival to this country for the simple misfortune of having been born in a certain country.

Yes, all the illegals are being rounded up and being told to register. Is it your position that enforcing immigration laws is somehow illegal? (Yes, I realize we are only now beginning to enforce laws that are on the books, and only for some groups and it is open for potential abuse).

Tim, you're pretty bright, so you should know this: What is the classic means for a person to gain power over people?

You win a cookie if you say that it is to set one group of people against another group of people.

Bad economic times and we blame the dirty immigrant. Feeling insecure? Blame another group- say they are out to destroy another group, etc.

If you're in the crowd that says Bush staged the 9/11 attacks to grab power, you're out to lunch and cannot be reasoned with. Bush ran on a platform of withdrawing from the world, and even cutting the military as part of a transformation.

I am open to the possibility that some elements of the government deliberately turned a blind eye to the coming attacks, but it's more likely they were all too busy handing out pork and tax cuts to their friends, and going on vacation. Most likely, they were asleep at the switch and fucked up big time, IMHO.

If there is a deliberate high-level conspiracy to "allow" terrorist attacks, why wouldn't the democrats make hay out of this? From what I can tell, they had all the same intelligence and were equally asleep at the switch.

And apparently we want a judically appointed neo-religious tyrant

You continue to propagate the myth that Bush is illegitimate and appointed by conservative judges. Several recounts have been done and every single one showed bush winning. Now, I believe he would not have won if all the stupid old folks in FL had filled out their ballots right, but if you're too stupid to fill out a ballot should your vote count anyway?

who wishes to impose our cultural values onto the world, and they stand in the way of that... Whatever happened to self-determination?

At the risk of sounding as if I support excessive adventures in the middle east, I will say you're nuts if you think any of the gov'ts there are self-determined, let alone in Iraq. None of the governments there were "installed" by the US.

Of course we don't allow that in the middle east, which is their PRIMARY complaint, becuase we are too interested in maintiaing the status quo, to our benefit, by supporting non-democratic regimes that oppress their peoples. Iraq is but the latest farce.

This perpetuates the myth that it is just "us" supporting these governments. In fact France and Russia were saddam's biggest supporters and Japan and Europe are far more dependent on the middle east than we are.

We are the biggest target, of course, not that we are doing anything that's different than a dozen other countries as far as relations in this region. This is a common farcical belief that the US alone supports these governments and therefore we deserve to be terrorized. Bullshit.

This is the common Euro-lefty clap-trap of saying that we "support dictators" while also railing against us because we don't support Iran and Cuba and others.

Also, if "oppression" is the root of terrorism, why aren't cubans, north koreans, etc etc etc all a bunch of terrorists? Oppression has nothing to do with it - it's politics mixed with a terrorist culture.

#8 Re: Not So Free Chat » USA, UN, The World - Yankee Rose speaks her mind :) » 2003-05-13 11:29:15

Then how can you characterize the assulat on our civil liberities as 'mild'?

I said it was mild compared to vietnam and WWII. WWII... go look on the internet for WWII propaganda posters. Now that is frightening! Japanese were all rounded up and held in, like Nevada or New Mexico or something. During Vietnam, the CIA was working domestically to disrupt anti-war groups.

Yet we are not being invaded. The president has not declared a suspension of habeus corpus.

I'll disagree. We are invaded (or were) by people who want to destroy us. It's not people who are "oppressed" by us as the damned europeans claim, it's people who want to have a totalitarian islamic empire in the middle east, and we stand in the way of that. Many foreign nations, whom we have not attacked, were supporting their efforts. By all rights, we could have attacked Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, and Pakistan for the terror attacks here and the attacks in the 70s, 80s, and 90s which went unanswered.

We didn't.

The far more frightening situation that has developed is the ability of the government to indefintily 'detain' ANY individual, foreign or domestic, as either a possible 'terroist' (defined as anyone who 'supports' terroists, or terroist organization- this can be as simple as a cash dontation to a charity or a church) or as a 'material witness' related to an ongoing anti-terroism case.

The government does not have to name these individuals, and does not have to allow them legal counsel. The government does not have to name witness's, or even produce evidence.

It is an affront to human dignity and to our reason to suppose that NOT every individual is entitiled to a fair and speedy trial, and to know what evidence exsists against them. To borrow a phrase, "these rights are self evident".

I'm with you on many of these things, however it appears that these are "weaknesses" in the constitution which perhaps need an ammendment. At one point only "all white men who own property were created equal", and that has been expanded with various amendments to include blacks and women.

I wouldn't look for any of the democrats to be proposing an amendment to expand all the protections to non-citizen terrorists any time soon.

Where do you derive this optimisim given that the Suprem e Court has consistenly supported the position of the Executive branch?

The Supreme Court strikes down stuff all the time. If you are wanting them to strike down stuff that is legitimately allowed under the constitution, they aren't going to.

#9 Re: Not So Free Chat » USA, UN, The World - Yankee Rose speaks her mind :) » 2003-05-13 10:53:44

Becuase I don't believe there is such a thing as a 'mild attack' on personal liberities and I am a bit dismayed that you would suggest that an encroachment upon civili liberities, in any amount, could be acceptable.

You generally have a level approach, and while I can't neccessarily agree with you on certain issues, it is strange that you can so non-chalantly accept the developments that are occuring.

I haven't nonchalantly accepted anything. Since 9/11 I spend almost all of my time reading worldwide news to get a better understanding of what's going on and why. The vast majority of people do not have the time that I do to undertake this task.

I believe my reading has given me a very good perspective, and it's difficult to get too alarmed when you find out that, indeed, things are worse elsewhere in most cases. For example, I am very much against running the kinds of deficits Bush proposes, but when I find out we're better off than most, it's hard to get violently upset about it.

We now have the precedent in place where the government can determine that you are or are not a terroist, and based on a mere 'suspicision' the government may violate all manner of our personal privacy, with little to no evidence to prove their claim. If challenged, precedent and law now allow the government to simply hide their lack of evidence under a veil of 'national security'. The masses are mobilized to accept whatever the executive branch tells them based on the 'threat' of terroism, which ALL have agreed will not end, ever.

I agree 100% with you on the issue of the president being able to declare that someone can be held without trial and in secrecy. This, and the unprecedented attack on Iraq, is what has caused me to turn from a normally hardcore republican into someone who sends money to left-wing-fanatic organizations. Traditionally, democrats are the war-starters, not republicans.

I read the constitution a year ago and I'm pretty sure I saw a clause in there about suspending writ of habeus corpus during times of invasion. To my knowledge, only 1 US citizen has had this happen (the alleged dirty-bomber suspect).

The constitution, to my understanding, also separates non-citizens from citizens in terms of what rights you have. To my knowledge, only non-citizens have been deported in secrecy, and supposedly all of these have VISA violations. (IMHO this should all be done under a glaring light rather than in secrecy)

Yes, I am watching this particular stuff, and the TIA system that was proposed, very carefully. From what I can tell so far, they are in-line with clauses in the constitution for 220-some years.

I also believe that we have a virtually unmatched level of liberty in this country which most others don't have, despite their ranting. We have constitutionally-guaranteed liberties and a mechanism for protecting them from congressional and executive infringment (the court system).

I believe that several of the activities taking place now will be struck down by the supreme court, strengthening precedent in favor of liberty and having a net-positive effect. I also believe that Bush's far-right policies are going to cause him problems in 2004. If right-of-center people like me are rejecting Bush, I think he's in big trouble.

#10 Re: Not So Free Chat » USA, UN, The World - Yankee Rose speaks her mind :) » 2003-05-13 10:19:56

Actually, you've discovered nothing. Your juvenille attempts to ferret this out will only continue to fail.

Are these my only options? How small your world must be.

And by the way, what's missing in your life that you have to belittle other people and call names?

tongue

#11 Re: Not So Free Chat » USA, UN, The World - Yankee Rose speaks her mind :) » 2003-05-13 10:10:08

Actually, you've discovered nothing. Your juvenille attempts to ferret this out will only continue to fail.

Oooh, mystery man. I'm impressed.

One, you should probably try to focus on the merits of my opinion rather than attempt to disqualify me based on my character.

As opposed to your attack on my character in the previous message? Normally, I'm impressed by your knowledge of world affairs (and geopolitics) and have said so in the past, so I can't figure out why you suddenly take such a hostile tone to the "mild attack on liberties" statement. Why not explain yourself? Have you been personally under attack by Bush?

#12 Re: Not So Free Chat » USA, UN, The World - Yankee Rose speaks her mind :) » 2003-05-13 09:51:58

I already provided a link with facts about total indebtedness. Canada's debt ratio is ~1.0, the US is about 0.6.

Here's the link again:
http://www.mof.go.jp/english/budget/pamphlet/cjfc_g.htm

#13 Re: Not So Free Chat » USA, UN, The World - Yankee Rose speaks her mind :) » 2003-05-13 09:49:45

Perhaps you should reexamine yourself and figure out what exactly it is that is missing from your life that you require others to make you feel better about yourself.

You're the one who ripped me for saying Bush was launching a relatively "mild attack" on civil liberties. Come to find out, you're not doing anything about it.

Break out your checkbook and write a few checks, or go and volunteer some time for some democrats. If you say you can't afford it or don't have the time, you won't have anyone to blame but yourself when your freedoms shrink or disappear.

#14 Re: Not So Free Chat » USA, UN, The World - Yankee Rose speaks her mind :) » 2003-05-13 09:28:16

I don't care what you do Tim. It's strange that you care what I do.

OK, so you are not doing anything to protect our liberties excepting venting on an internet forum. Very constructive.

#15 Re: Not So Free Chat » USA, UN, The World - Yankee Rose speaks her mind :) » 2003-05-13 09:14:26

Translation: no you are not supporting any of the organizations like ACLU or EFF or Judicial Watch.

However, I place more faith, to my usual disappointment, in the process by which leaders are chosen. But perhaps the courts are a better place from which to defend our liberties.

Have you volunteered your time for any of the democratic presidential candidates? Contributed money to their campaigns?

I'm just guessing that you have not. (I have not either, although I have written to my Senator Charles Grassley and thanked him for standing up against the TIA system)

#16 Re: Not So Free Chat » USA, UN, The World - Yankee Rose speaks her mind :) » 2003-05-13 09:09:54

*No, it's Clinton's fault.  Just ask the right-wingers.  Everything that's ever gone wrong in the entire scope of human history *From Day One* is Bill Clinton's fault.  Period.

King George the W can do no wrong whatsoever.

Oh, and by the way:  Clinton's carousing with cheap gals while he was President was more of national security issue than anything that's happened since 1/2000.  Yep.

True enough, although this is getting a bit off the topic. My dad still breaks out the blame-clinton rhetoric, and believes firmly that a blowjob in the oval office is worse than anything Bush has done (assuming Bush has done anything wrong, which is unprovable).

P.S.:  On a more serious note, I know of one ex-hippie 60-year-old artist in Oregon who, along with his political pals, believes the Bush Administration knew in advance about the plans for 9/11 and -allowed- it to happen so the situation could play into the administration's hands (read:  Iraqi Oil).

That's not an unreasonable assumption, IMHO, although I'm not convinced oil is the only, or even the major interest in Iraq. It's also reasonable to believe that Bush himself perhaps did not know everything, but Rumsfeld, maybe Cheney did.

People who obsess over the oil in Iraq are way too simplistic. It's more about putting a pro-western trojan horse right in the middle of the most hostile and backwards region on the planet.

Many people think Roosevelt knew about Pearl Harbor in advance, and did nothing so that we could get drawn into a war he wanted to get into for years.

#17 Re: Not So Free Chat » USA, UN, The World - Yankee Rose speaks her mind :) » 2003-05-13 08:53:47

There is no such thing as a mild attack on liberty. How can you say we should be concerned about the erosion of our civil liberties, yet also follow up with that we shouldn't be "too worried" because it is only a 'mild' erosion?

Today, we are less free than we once were. Is that progress?

So the question is, what are you doing except ranting about it? Have you sent cash or volunteered time for any of the numerous organizations that provide a check against government expansion? I certainly have.

#18 Re: Not So Free Chat » USA, UN, The World - Yankee Rose speaks her mind :) » 2003-05-13 06:51:08

Gee, folks ... I didn't mean to discourage any replies by quoting Margaret Atwoods "Letter to America."

Dick, I thought it was a nice post, although it had the usual factual errors that uninformed people usually propagate.

For example, Canada is far more indebted than the US is, despite all the "free lunch" and huge trade surplus I've mentioned. ( http://www.mof.go.jp/english/budget/pamphlet/cjfc_g.htm ) This makes her comment about enormous debts nothing short of rank hypocrisy. Most Europeans are also programmed with this same misinformation.

We should all be very concerned about erosion of civil liberties. I, for one, have sent generous checks to ACLU and EFF as they are valuable checks on government encroachment.

At the same time, we should have some perspective and realize that Bush's attack on liberties is mild compared to the Vietnam war or WWII. Most European countries have far more intrusive anti-terror laws than the US, as Europeans have lived with terror for decades. And if Bush fails to prevent another terror attack, he'll be blamed for that.

It's a balancing act that we should all pay close attention to.

#19 Re: Not So Free Chat » American Moon Base prediction... - tell me what you think » 2003-05-08 11:52:58

As I have said before, my opinion on these events are irrelevant. This IS happening.

With such a low gravity well, Clark is right that you could deliver fuel and replacement satellites easily to orbit. Also think about having a NORAD-type command bunker buried deep in the moon. It would provide a great fall-back in case all earth-based assets are taken out.

But to build up this infrastructure on the moon would cost so much with such a marginal benefit, it would be outlandish if they actually did it. For security, we have military bases all over the world, including right up against the borders of our so-called "enemies". If nukes were to fly, they'd have to nuke right on their own borders in order to take out our command-and-control facilities.

Rather than an outrageously expensive moon bases, it's more likely that the air force will invest the money in building a first-class space plane (or bringing one out of the black world) so that we can easily accomplish the same thing from here on earth.

#20 Re: Not So Free Chat » American Moon Base prediction... - tell me what you think » 2003-05-08 07:14:32

There was a project launched by GW Bush that is more ambitious and usefull: the H2 cars you remember ?
If americans want challenge, that is a big one. it involves a change of spirit/mind in the american customer because I think that an hydrogen car could never be as performant, sportive, if you want, than a regular gaz car. Those car will be less "machist" because their performance will be more like a grandpa or grandma oldsmobile, no more fast BMW or SUV.

Hydrogen cars would have a lot more torque and pizzaz than current cars, hands down.

Generating hydrogen is that hard part - most of the people talking about a hydrogen economy don't realize that you have to use nuclear, wind, or solar power if you want to generate hydrogen cleanly. Generating hydrogen from coal or natural gas will be an environmental nitemare.

#21 Re: Not So Free Chat » American Moon Base prediction... - tell me what you think » 2003-05-06 06:34:55

I don't see why weapons in space is any worse than ballistic missiles or even cruise missiles. Yes, they have a shorter launch time, assuming they are in LEO and are over the desired location at the instant you want to launch.

I have no problem with space-based offensive weapons, but I have not seen any mention of the US building them. I have seen plenty of talk about building anti-missile lasers and kinetic interceptors. Who cares? Especially if it pours cash into the space industry.

#22 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Hibernation - Is human hibernation possible? » 2003-05-05 11:14:06

I thought they had already successfully frozen and retrieved a dog. Can't be too big of a leap to humans from there can it?

#23 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Economics of space elevators - Part Two! » 2003-04-28 07:53:31

How realistic is this assumption in the near term? Can anyone really say how soon humanity will be in a position to deploy 62000 *miles* of carbon fiber filaments?

*IF* cheap plentiful CNT will be here tomorrow - guaranteed! - *THEN* should humanity abandon all other avenues for low cost access to space and just sit back and wait for the CNT miracle?

Well, if you believe what's written in the space elevator book, and that "Going Up" newsletter that mentioned the 1-km fibers, we are on the verge of having this sorted out in a couple years. If you can make 1-km, you can make 62,000 km - it's just a difference in money.

As far as "abandoning" all other forms of space travel, it looks like the military is working on a deeply-classified Mach-12 cruise missile, and they did not rule out that they could be working on a hypersonic strike bomber, which would make an excellent technological base for a space plane:

http://www.spacewar.com/2003/030427070525.iyei5463.html

Also, I wrote an editorial which is published on SpaceDaily today:

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/oped-03zf.html

I advocate that, instead of lobbying for pie-in-the-sky mars trips, we should instead lobby for materials and propulsion R&D, which could lead to cheap access to space in the future.

#24 Re: Not So Free Chat » USA, UN, The World - Yankee Rose speaks her mind :) » 2003-04-25 14:32:59

Second, America did attempt to annex Canada by military force; it was called the war of 1812. Canada won.

Sounds like you're issuing a challenge. With all the oil and gas up there, plus the hostile government, Rummy and Wolfowitz might take you up on it.  tongue

Of course, we merely want to militarily "protect" all those oil/gas wells so the Chretien Regime doesn't attempt to burn them and harm the environment.

Canada considers America to be a good friend and ally, but does not want to join. Canadian national pride may not be demonstrated very obviously.

Didn't Canada almost implode in 1994? I think Quebec was going to secede or something. I barely paid attention, but I remember it being talked about as a fairly serious crisis.

#25 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » The economics of space elevators - Are they financially feasible? » 2003-04-25 09:57:51

OK tim, I may not know what I'm talking about.

I misused "demand" - it should have been quantity. Quantity is a bell shaped curve. The gist of it is, you may not have any increase in quantity of riders at $50 as opposed to the quantity of riders at $100, for example.

According to the elasticity models on the highlift site, quantity will flatten out around $600 or so. Once you have lowered costs below $600/pd you don't have that much of an increase in quantity as you lower costs further.

http://www.highliftsystems.com/convert....ket.htm

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