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"importing energy from neighboring countries like France (who make some 90% of theirs by nuclear plants"
That number is not quite correct.
The final end-user consumption energy from nuclear generated electricity in France is not 90%, it is 16%.
The bulk of end-user delivered energy in France is fossil fuel.
Do not confuse "energy" with "electricity" nor confuse "primary energy" with "final end-user consumption"
yale simkin
BTW...
that new poster:
Richard Branson
http://www.newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4727
is probably Wayne Smith.
The first post is simply a cut and pastes of the Wikipedia entries.
I suggest that the moderators check and see if the posts come from Australia.
Branson is one of the people that Wayne is creating sock puppets of:
http://projectorion.proboards28.com/index.cgi
Look under Branson's picture. A tiny smattering of Wayne's phony web sites are listed there and Branson's was included til yesterday.
edit: I just found it in the Google Cache:
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:oSY … =clnk&cd=1
If the poster IS Branson, then he needs to be on the lookout for Wayne's sock puppets.
It is not simply cybersquatting.
"Universe Daily" is the spammer/porn-spammer/hacker and all-around internet thug Wayne Smith AKA ProjectOrion, PO, NuclearSpace, etc.
This is his Global Banning from the entire ezBoard network:
http://p216.ezboard.com/uprojectorion.bannedPage
Dr. Zubrin, you have unfortunately somehow pissed him off and he will begin his usual malignant abusive campaign against you.
He will begin impersonating you around the web with that phony link in his postings.
As he implies in his posts above, he is on first-name basis with you. This is Wayne at another board:
" The Mars Society interviewed me last year for their radio show. I've written articles for SpaceDaily.com and other magazines. I've discussed Orion with the likes of Robert Zubrin and Jerry Pournelle. I'm doing all I can but I'm only one man. It's important to stamp out ignorance too. I know I can't persuade you that Orion makes sense as you are obviously too proud to admit being wrong."
At another forum, Wayne is "Nuclearspace" at the beginning post, and at the end post he is pretending to be the science fact and fiction writer Dr. Jerry Pournelle with links going back to his hacker sites:
http://www.netalive.org/topics/2312?find=2312#2312
Wayne will variously link back to one of his websites (where he is rather revealingly using the handle "sock puppet") or to a phish site that will trap users's passwords, or to a porn site. He rotates between various targets.
As he has done to people like Phil Plait, the famous Bad Astronomer, he will begin corrupting your entry in the Wikipedia.
Here is where Wayne Smith (ProjectOrion or PO) is using the New Mars Forum to attack Phil Plait:
http://www.newmars.com/forums/viewtopic … 0144#80144
Another of Wayne's targets is Fraser Cain, of the excellent Universe Today website and forum:
http://www.universetoday.com/
Here Wayne (as the user "Universe Today" and with a bogus link) is using the New Mars forum to subvert Cain's site:
http://www.newmars.com/forums/search.ph … ults=posts
Wayne has a buttload of bogus IDs at New Mars designed to damage his enemies. It is one of the few sites that allow him to post. Most boards block him and his IP addresses.
Many people have learned that ignoring him is the worst thing to do. I advise contacting Australian authorities, and getting your lawyer on him.
A nice overview of some of Wayne Smith's malicious nonsense:
http://www.everything-science.com/index … 5#msg54725
yale
Josh cryer, the admin here wrote:
NuclearSpace posts here ocassionally, so you can click on his profile and email him that way, if you want.
No, no, no!
Project Orion, Wayne Smith, and "nuclearspace" are all the same guy.
He is banned from the real nuclearspace.com site for abusive spamming.
The problems Anticarrot was having is due to the admins there having to add increased protection to divert wayne's assaults.
If wayne follows his usual mode of behavior, New Mars is going to be a target.
Wayne got banned (for the 100th time) from space.com again yesterday for abusive spamming. Here, take a look at how pathetic a person can be:
http://projectorion.proboards28.com/ind … 1127186346
DO NOT click on ANY links in his posts, signature or profile!
WARNING!
All the links are phony re-directs.
Having security software installed is definitely a very good thing.
It is important to understand ~why~ he puts these links out.
a) The first is to trick people into unknowingly coming to his site where they will join his crusade to actually launch an atomic-bomb rocket. (That is his fantasy life obsession that controls all his actions)
b) The second is to cause grievious harm to his enemies. Enemies include anyone who he thinks has endangered or impeded his construction of this spacecraft by disagreeing with him in any way or not allowing him to make every message boards devote all threads to the subject.
The main risk you face clicking on any of Wayne's links are 3-fold.
1) he will sometimes aim his re-directs at porno sites (which are infested with spyware) or other nasty locations in order to defame a legit site like Bad Astronomy or Everything Science. Think of all the children who have clicked on his links and been directed to a pervert site.
2) He creates a "phish" site looking like the original. When you log in, he now has your user ID and password (which you likely use at other sites, too)
3) If it redirects to one of his own ProjectOrion sites and you foolishly become a member, he again has your ID, password, email address, etc.
So... be careful out there!
If you want I can post a list of some of Wayne's 'doppleganger" clone sites.
However, the mods here prefer to not have this non-New Mars subject matter waste space.
Only if they want more about this will I continue this thread.
Sorry to continue this, but Wayne has just booby-trapped the link in his post.
DO NOT click on the link in Project Orion's (Wayne Smith) post!
He has spammed the phony "Sale of bad astronomy website" all over the net.
He did this because Phil Plait banned him.
As predicted, Wayne the hacker has now re-directed the link to his hacker/spam site "projectorion.com"
If you wish to protect your personal data and the integrity of your computer - DO NOT CLICK THAT LINK!
BE CAREFUL!
The message board at space.com deleted the thread and banned his sockpuppet ID (for the 100th time) as did Universe Today and others.
If you see ANY links in any posts by Wayne Smith or any variant of ProjectOrion or Nuclearspace DO NOT click them. Please warn the moderators at any site he may be spamming.
Not a problem. I just feel that it is important that the people here know that the link in the first post is a deliberate "come-on" to a re-directed "phishing" site.
Sorry if this public service announcement is out-of-bounds. I was sort of asked to clear this up at another board:
http://www.everything-science.com/index … pic=5959.0
I will butt out.
yale
"Project Orion" is Wayne Smith, a seriously wacked out rent-a-cop and part-time bar bouncer from Australia.
This is his profile:
http://www.newmars.com/forums/profile.p … ile&u=1072
Any board that does not commit itself to discussing how to promote the use of Project Orion atomic-bomb powered spaceships he must destroy.
He has hacked and crashed message boards and spammed and filled with porno any board he cannot hack.
He always ends up banned and then retaliates with a range of stupid script-kiddy stunts to cripple his "enemy".
Wayne, after acting like a thug at the excellent "Bad Astronomy" board, was banned. The REAL address is badastronomy.com
Wayne, as he has done numerous times in the past, bought a similar sounding domain: badastronomer.com
This is the public domain Internet WHOIS record: (notice that it is NOT Hoagland)
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Domain Name: BADASTRONOMER.COM
Registrar: Spot Domain LLC
Expiration Date: 2005-12-14 01:00:59
Creation Date: 2004-12-13 23:01:57
REGISTRANT CONTACT INFO
Wayne Smith
Poste Restante
GPO
Brisbane, QLD 4000
AU
Phone: 33959876
Phone Code: 61 Australia
Fax:
Email Address: cosmic_disturbance@yahoo.com
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He then uses that to set up "phishing" sites to trap the unwary, or in this case, to re-direct people to other sites, porno sites, or his own pathetic web pages in order to harm the real web site.
This is the HTML re-direct script that Wayne Projectorion Smith uses if you go to his phony badastronomer.com link:
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>Bad Astronomer</title>
<META name ="keywords" content="bad astronomer, Phil Plait, astronomy">
<META name ="description" content="Phil Plait's bad astronomy"><meta HTTP-EQUIV="content-type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
</head>
<frameset border=0 rows="100%,*" noresize>
<frame marginwidth=0 marginheight=0 frameborder=0 framespacing=0 name="TOPFRAME" src="http://www.rael.org/"
noresize>
</frameset>
</html>
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See the re-direct to hoagland's "http://www.rael.org/" ?
Wayne will change that to different porno sites, pseudoscience sites, or back to his own silly board.
What a complete loozer!
Unless you relish possible spyware, hijacking, and getting hacked,
DO NOT access the web link in the first post. It is run by this guy:
http://p068.ezboard.com/uprojectorion.bannedPage
Careful!
yale
Didn't you discuss the founding of the Mars Society when you dialoged with Robert Zubrin?:
" I've discussed Orion with the likes of Robert Zubrin and Jerry Pournelle"
In any event, here is a brief history and the founding declaration:
http://www.marssociety.org/about/foundi … ration.asp
http://www.spacefuture.com/lists/sf-dis … 00013.html
http://www.univelt.com/events/fcms98/]h … ts/fcms98/
http://www.newmars.com/archives/000069. … 0069.shtml
http://www.marssociety.org/convention/1 … tion98.asp
Update 2022/07/14 All links above show as no longer working (per Moderator test)
GCNRenger wrote:
"Second, that Orion doesn't make sense as a reuseable vehicle. Orion is unable to land for intents and purposes, so if it were to be reused as an orbit-to-orbit ship after launch (or assembly), a different means of launching and landing cargo efficently would be required to make use of its huge payload... But if you have a means of efficent launch/landing already, then Orion's biggest strength - massive ground launch, is redundant. Also, if you can't reuse an Orion for ground launch, then building a new Orion every time isn't economicly practical in the slightest."
During a radio interview on Project Orion, Dr. Freeman Dyson, the physics leader of the project, discussed that very point:
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{CALLER}: Well, my question is why would you not build this ship in space, thereby overcoming the problem of the dirty bombs in the atmosphere?
{Dr. DYSON}: It's just too expensive to do that.
Of course, we thought of it, of course, right at the beginning. But the cost of getting the ship up using conventional rockets turned out to be much, much larger than the cost of building it on the ground, so you'd lose all the advantage of doing it cheaply.
{CALLER}: Would the advantage of a long-distance trip--would the overall efficiency--wouldn't that overcome the disadvantage of initially getting the material in space?
{Dr. DYSON}: No. It turns out not to.
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