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#226 2025-02-05 15:14:28

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Tuesday Trump announced a 30 day pause in the Tariffs for both Canada and Mexico. Both countries made promises, but what both countries promised was what they had already committed to over 2 months before the Tariffs. Canada did commit to creating a "Fentanyl Czar", which is a meaningless title. The word "Czar" refers to the head of the Russian government before the communist revolution, aka Tzar. The word Czar is based on the Roman word Caesar. Canada has Ministers and Deputy Ministers, the title Czar is meaningless. Other than the Fentanyl Czar, Canada promised what it had promised over 2 months ago. Does this mean Trump backed down? He will make it sound as if he won.

Will Trump create more trouble in 30 days? Or is it over?

Canada cannot commit more money to anything unless they pass a bill through Parliament. And it's currently prorogued. Liberals will select a new leader on March 9, who should become Prime Minister either later the same day, or the next. Parliament will resume March 24. The first business will be a throne speech, which sets objectives for the next session. Parliament must vote on the speech. If it's voted down, that's a non-confidence motion. That forces Parliament to dissolve, start a new election.  All opposition partiea have said they will note non-confidence the first chance they get. In a press conference, the leader of the NDP equivocted, so one of his.party slapped him upside the head. They had enough.

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#227 2025-02-05 16:40:34

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UK defence budget is about US$70bn.  Canada is US$25bn.  Australia will spend $36.8bn between 2024 and 2025.  Collectively, this is small compared to the US Defence Department budget of $850bn.  But pooling resources gives us a better chance of developing things like next generation fighters, modern frigates and aircraft carriers.  The US is telling us in no uncertain terms that it is no longer willing to foot the bill for policing the world or extend the rest of the world favourable trade arrangements.  It is time for Canada, UK, Australia and NZ to form a closer military and economic alliance, start pooling resources and preparing for a more chaotic world.

Canada and the UK have a lot of collective naval and nuclear engineering experience between us.  Canada and Australia have a large fraction of the worlds uranium resource.  The UK has large quantities of DU, separated plutonium and a domestic uranium enrichment capability.  Collectively, we could build a large nuclear navy capable of unlimited global reach.  This befits a group of nations that depend upon global trade and safe sea lanes.

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#228 2025-02-05 20:17:03

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Mostly we talked about Trump's 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico. Trump backed down, put a 30 day pause on the tariffs. Both Canada and Mexico promised what they had committed to months ago. In Canada's case, the only addition was appointment of a "Fentanyl Czar". The term "Czar" means nothing in Canada. George W. Bush started using it. It's an alternate spelling for Tzar, king of the Russian Empire, and is based on the Roman title Caesar. Canada has Ministers and Deputy Ministers. But Ok, Trump wants it.

Canada has political issues right now. Parliament has been prorogued, which is a break, Parliament is not sitting. All bills that were in process are cancelled. If Politicians really want those bills they'll have to be resubmitted, started over. Some bills in process were very bad, it's good they're killed. But most relevant, government cannot authorize any new spending without a bill through Parliament. All opposition parties have said they will vote non-confidence their first opportunity, and since Canada has a minority government now, that would trigger an election. Voting down any money bill is considered a non-confidence vote, so no spending bill will pass. Trudeau has announced his resignation. Normally that means he would be gone, caucus of the governing party would select an interim leader during a leadership contest, however Trudeau asked to remain as interim leader until a new leader is selected. The Liberal Party will vote for their new leader March 9; the new leader will be appointed Prime Minister later that same day. Parliament will resume March 24. Whenever Parliament resumes from prorogation there must be a throne speech in which the government announced the priorities it will work on. Parliament must vote on that throne speech, and if it's voted down that's a non-confidence vote. We expect all opposition partiea to vote non-confidence because they want an election NOW. NDP is the 4th party in the House of Commons, but has been supporting the Liberal government. In a recent press conference, the NDP leader equivocted whether they would vote non-confidence so a caucus member of that party literally slapped him upside the head. All this means no new money can be allocated until after the election.

In case you wonder why, polls show Liberals will lose dramatically.

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#229 2025-02-21 20:27:46

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I like George Friedmans materials: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … 94fd9729a6
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Trump's Master Plan: How Russia Lost Everything | George Friedman
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I actually don't think Russia Lost Everything.  Rather they have to accept a deal, I think, and it is not necessarily a bad deal for them.

If the three Oil powers are outputting, then that may cut inflation, eventually.

If Canada elects to have free trade between their provinces and to make pipelines to the pacific, then they do become more like the USA.  Canadians claim to pride themselves as being not like the USA.  Oil from Canada to the pacific could sell to California and Japan and South Korea, which could be useful to us.

If the Danes put more military into Greenland, and maybe offer the USA more bases, then we keep Greenland away from China.  (Not that we would tolerate that at all).  A deal with Russia, also displaces China out of the Arctic.

It appears that the stupid idea that the west Europeans had of shattering Russia to exploit its resources, will not happen.  Sadly, we had a lot of Roman-Wanna-Bees in the USA also, but they are also pushed back.

With North America, Russia, and the Nordics having almost all that is to say about the Arctic, then the possible shipping routes will be dominated by those 3.

The USA having a Market, we can wave tariffs at several nations that do not have that, to get concessions from them.

Yes, Trump and Company are Aquisitioners.

Thank God!  Warlords like to slaughter, Priests like to make us wear hairshirts, Intellectuals can be useful to Aquisitioners.

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#230 2025-02-24 10:57:41

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I decided to put this here, as it does have political implications.  I have not reviewed it very well.  Was listening to it while doing breakfast and shower and so on.  I will want to review it again: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … ORM=WRVORC   Quote:

Valentina Zharkova: Grand solar minimum is underway | Tom Nelson Pod #278
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I think that indeed we need a more intellectual/scientific evaluation of processes, rather than "Hair Shirt Pseudo Religious Evaluations".

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#231 2025-02-25 11:13:07

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I will want to review the video in the previous post again.

But I have some notions which I think can apply to ice formation in Scandanavia.

First thing is seasonal temperature variation.  If Scandanavia, had a constant temperature of +1 C in the average of sunlight, Day/Night, then no ice could accumulate, except for an occasional snowstorm, or Hail.  But even then, it would melt.

At -1 C, then snow, Hail and even frost would accumulate on the ground.  The only thing that would melt the ice would be ground heat.  Here I am presuming that weather would be monotonous, not bringing in temporary warm air from elsewhere.

Apparently because of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles , Scandanavia, tends to accumulate ice cap when the summers are cooler, and the winters are warmer than normal.

This probably means that when you have cooler summers, you get less melt-off, and if also the winters are warmer, you get less ice cover on the adjacent sea, which is often warmed by the gulf stream, so then with a warmer winter you would get more snow in Scandanavia.

In an ice age then ice cap may accumulate until you again get warmer summers and colder winters.  Until that change, then the albedo of the ice cap would reflect much sunlight into space locking the region into its icy nature even more.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=milankovi … 1&hsmssg=0  During the last ice age was a grassland instead of an ice cap.  Its sea may have had much more ice cover, so then this land in Siberia was to a large extend a cold grassland.  But I presume that being remote from a maritime moderation, the summers could still warm enough to melt the small amount of snow that accumulated.  It was a Cold Semi-Desert almost.

Once the snow had melted the grasslands would absorb more heat from sunlight than would ice cap.  Allowing for even better summer melt process.

But in relation to residual winter snowpack, there can be below snow vegetation and emerged vegetation.  Trees are emerged Vegetation.  Grass can be submerged until the melt-off.  A snowstorm can partially cover them in white temporarily, but wind and drying, or melting can remove this coating rather effectively in most cases.

I do not know about all emergent vegetation, but I do recall reading that conifer trees in the north need at least 2 weeks of temperature above 50 degrees F to reproduce.  So, then 2 weeks of 10 degrees C.

Also, trees are limited to some extent by shallow thaw in the soil.  If the permafrost is too strong, there is limited soil available for the trees so wind can knock them over easier or at least twist them about so to damage the root system, I presume.

Plasticene park is a location were animals are being used to try to convert the land back to grassland.  The animals may do damage to trees and tundra vegetation, and also may pack the snow down to be packed down so that frost will penetrate further into the ground.  This then tilts the plant cover towards conversion to grasslands.  That allows the soil layer to become thinner, and not favorable for trees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleistocene_Park
Image Quote: Pleistocene_Park.jpg  Quote:

Restored grasslands in Pleistocene Park

It can be seen that the trees in the background look darker than the grass, even when the grass is not dried out.

So, I could argue that the trees themselves might create a warmer summer microclimate so that they may succeed in reproducing.  If they can get 2 weeks of 10 degrees C at least in some years, then they can propagate.

In doing so, the trees then might march north, over time, warming the air nearer the ice caps, that might exist.  If they can help to melt the ice and snow cover, then can then create conditions where some summers, it is possible to reproduce.

So, I would say that it is not just as simple as increased CO2 warms the air, although it may well do so.  But there is an argument, that if the CO2 has already blocked most of the wavelengths they can block, adding more CO2 will have diminishing returns for warming.  And warming will be more so over water than land, so then this should increase snowfall.

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#232 2025-03-01 11:51:04

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I think that this matters a lot: https://www.msn.com/en-us/science/earth … r-AA1A1dc8  Quote:

Scientists discover the cause of Earth's longest ice age 700 million years ago
Story by Joseph Shavit • 16h • 4 min read

So, this suggests that the Earth is a chemical reactor, that can vary its rate of CO2 production, and entombment.  I know that this can be a flimsy, excuse, but in realty do, we know what the production rate of CO2 is at this time, relative to that of the little ice age?

Simple logic indicates to me that more rain and snow will result, if a buildup of greenhouse gasses occurs in the atmosphere.  This is because, the depth of atmosphere will be largest over water, and less so over land.  So, greater evaporation will occur over water, and the land while perhaps warming up will not warm up as much as the water.  (This would presume that the warming did not cause an increase in ocean water turn over).

So, with more rain and snow melt water then there should be more sequestering of CO2 into weathered rock materials due to more hydraulic erosion.

In figuring out how to control the Earth's climate, we should look for tools that could both cool and warm it.  This is because a little ice age might greatly reduce the food production.  More rain from more CO2 should make it more possible to farmland for food.  A cooler dryer climate should reduce food production.

It is my suspicion that the climate doom goblins have been used by enemies of industrial and western cultures to erode the power of Industrial and Western cultures.  We might look to where alien power is coming from.  Alien Oil Money, China, and the general anti-colonial attitudes in the world.

I agree that the Colonial Era is best over, but I do not agree in the destruction of Industrial and "Western" cultures.

The input of CO2 into the Earth's atmosphere should to some extent be self-limiting.  For each increment of CO2 accumulated the warming effects should be less and less, as there are only some wavelengths that CO2 can block.  And the water cycle should be stimulated to circulate more water onto land to run off into the oceans.  This then should sequester CO2.

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#233 2025-03-02 14:06:35

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This guy has a lot of interesting videos out: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … ORM=WRVORC  Quote:

"Victor Davis Hanson: It's Time to Tell You EVERYTHING!!"
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What I say now is not from him, just from me at this point.

I think I have the base code of what is going on.

Keep in mind that the NAZI had said that there is a necessary need for continuous killing.  Gene reduction philosophy is stupid, but these people don't understand that.

So, then you might start to understand why they want to promote conflict in our societies, in some cases by bringing outsiders in.

Is it possible for any type of ethnic group including "J", to serve a gene reduction process?  You are not able to call them NAZI because the NAZI were very clever to hide their actual objective which is killing out the weaklings.

I think it is very easy for our rulers of the apointocracy to see themselves as necessarily better than the common people.  And they judge that if they can cause conflict, they will be able to be sheltered by their high places.

The whole idea is stupid, because genius occurs where not expected.  It is not possible to know for sure how to promote it by killing out what are considered the inferior.  Genius is to some extent when a vacuum gets filled by someone who somehow has something to fill that vacuum.

I am afraid I think we are dealing with the conceit of the Romanoids.  That is not Romans, but to some extent you may draw a line from Dublin to Saudi Arabia.  On the way you will encounter London, Paris, Rome, Athens, Cairo.  It is a fairly strait line and is where things like the Roman Empire occurred.

The reason why the Roman Empire had a limit to how far north it could go was probably agriculture and the heritage of the Steppe peoples.

Over time after the Roman Empire fell, some northern peoples started getting incorporated as well into a pseudo-Roman heritage.  I regard the Poles as being a people pinched between the Russians, Mongols etc, and the Nordics.  The Nordics to some extent found it convenient to rebel against the central church in Rome.  The Poles needed someone to hope might help them out.  So then the Catholic Religion suited them.

Historically though the only use the Romans had for the people of the north was as those they might kill or enslave.  That is why the Slavs were called Slavs, as they were desired to be slaves for the peoples to the south.

The people in the south tend to be blabber mouths, I feel, the northern peoples are more inclined to do things with hands and eyes.  We don't need that many blabber mouths, but they feel that if they can say it, it is intelligent.

To get blunt about it I think that the post WWII world with NATO has after the fall of the Soviet Union the Romanoids have decided that Americans might make good slaves.  We have their types in our population actually and that is fine.  But I think they will lead us to the slaughter and will damage the character of America, turning it into excrement.

Therefore, we will want to consider the Bricks as an offsetting potential, to keep their degenerate appetites at bay.  Russia the least enslaved of the Slavs, has the potential to help us keep our republic as it should be, in my opinion.

Where America is not being colonized by the British or the French, at this time, we are in danger of being a colony of the E.U.

I feel that Russia can be of value as it was during the Civil War, and Mexico may be sympathetic to our desire for an independent North America.

But in this configuration, of reality which has in my opinion repeated, or at least rhymed, Canada we have to be looked at with suspicion as a colonial intrusion, from the E.U. 

I would be careful Canada.

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#234 2025-03-02 18:51:36

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The idea of eliminating genes to improve the human race, in my opinion, at least at this point is stupid.  Granted there may be some medical conditions where it might be good to do gene therapy on occasion.   But with Neuralink for instance also it may be possible to augment the mind of someone who is poorly functional.

But even the idea of killing the weak is not currently sensible, I think.  If the human race expands into space as I think it can, then there would be expanded material means of existence, so a greater variety of genes could be supported.  Not every person for instance needs to be fit enough for persistence hunting.

I have my ideas about this killing cycle that we might emerge from.  There are many factors.  One is gender.  Specialization of gender.  I think it is a "One hand washes the other" type of situation.

The Feminine despite whatever is said seeks the masculine up to brutal levels.  They say they hate masculinity, but in fact they hate men they cannot exploit.  But yes, I suppose just like me they can hate men who do bad things.  That is reasonable.  But while they will exploit the beta males, they will procreate with the dominant males to make children.  This leads to the danger that the human race will degenerate into stone age brain dead cannibalism, if this process goes too far.

On the other hand, the above process avoids unfit populations.

Men can be attracted to either robust women or gracile women.  I suspect that it depends on how brutal the conditions of living are.  A farmer in the past might very well prefer a good sound helper.  But in order for humans to become more intelligent the gracile features may be required and also a large pelvis for females.

Neoteny is an old idea, I think it has merit.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny
A child-like physicality, is not as robust, but allows perhaps for a larger brain to body proportion.

People should not be so surprised if many males are attracted to child-like features in grown women.  Factors that may inhibit excessive male violence could be a high voice and tears.  Women do more of those.  A male who kills his own children or the children of a community would not leave behind genes very well.
So, I think that the female exploits this by camouflaging as having some child-like features which may protect here.  The survival of genes would then be promoted.

A reduction in body hair is also another child-like feature in many women.

So, it is not wrong, it is simply a way to keep the two genders from clashing excessively.  This factor might also protect an unborn child in the womb.  Again, gene survival.

Having more verbal skills also can recruit more assistance for survival.  This however could lead to a hive mind, which is efficient but may lack general oversight in an individual.  This does not mean stupid, but when in male leaders, it could indicate a lack of depth of awareness.  Generally, leaders have greater feminine features, but not always.

I think that the cases were males lack verbal skills can contribute to lack of ability, but then again it may cause the individual to develop other types of intelligence.  Possible Example: Elon Musk.  But though his words may stumble, I think that give time, he could do verbal well.  But I am guessing that so many things are flashing by in his mind that verbal becomes broken when needed to communicate at high speed.

I have not developed an idea of females lacking verbal skills.  It would be fun to interface with a community of people who have to use sign language.  I anticipate that their minds will be very deviated from what verbal people call normal.  That could be a good place to find females with a different mind structure.

I think that we may want to bring some of the genes back from the grave where it is possible.

Human populations pushed by female desire for material goods, then aggravating overly aggressive men, may have exterminated many good genes on the way back to the stone ages over and over again.

Again, if we are going into space, we can probably support a larger gene pool, which could include some archaic genes, if they are compatible with gain and not so much destruction.

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Some people may not like this post.  However, I think that the recent cultural deviations that began occurring in my early lifetime but had become ridiculous, and I even suspect that it was a intentional poisoning.  Europe may have been the origin of it.  I am not sure on that.  But to confuse people in mass on the proper order of things, if done intentionally could be considered an act of genocide, I think.  Yes, it gets idiots out of the gene pool, but it is genocidal anyway.

A process that we might want to intercept is one where a desire is identified, then the source of satisfaction of that desire is captured, and then it is sold.  And like a lamprey, this is not done for the good of the victim by any measure.  The why of something being judged immoral should not involve purchased indulgences.  The interference of American sexuality by economic entities should be regarded with great suspicion, I feel.  This again can be used as a method to promote less useful genes and memes and to exterminate more useful genes and memes.  We need them out of it, not allowed.  Prostitution of course is an example of that.  In order to promote a prostitution society, you have to first put penalty onto normal sexuality.  (Normal being healthy, I suppose).

The pimps and madams of this need correcting.

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I like this video it has application to how our world works: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … c1525383d2
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Explaining Steppe Anti-Civilization
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The sort of European partial ancestors of the Steppes, could have been regarded as being held in a cup sort of bound by China in the East of that time, and by the Mediterranean Sea Area perhaps associated with Africa.

I cannot explain how the Asiatic influx from north of China tipped the cup over, but it did.

When the Spanish and Portuguese touched the peoples of the Americas, they recreated the cup on these continents.

It was only a matter of time before the contents of Europe between the Med. and bounded now on the East by the results of the results of the Mongols and similar, spilled into the space between the Iberians and the Siberians.  And so North America, essentially.

The current history includes the Romanoids, which I call the line from Dublin to Cairo, even into Saudi-Arabia.

They are actually a bit towards China, relative to Iberia.  So, the French and the English managed to get into North America, even though the Iberians did not what them there.  Eventually America brought in peoples north of the Romanoids.

I leave out some significant details.

Slave America, tended towards the Romanoid, and the so called North, more was towards, the Asian compliment, as they were more involve with Native Americans and North and Western Europeans.  (Western defined by the Atlantic, not Rome).

The South "Whites" however were also more Northern, as being Scotts Irish.  But the vertical culture was the greater pattern due to the presence of sub-Saharan Africans.

So, that ended in some pretty harsh clashes.

The current era, I feel, resembles that time.  We USA got involved with the Romanoids.  That collective NATO, rejected the Steppe people or they rejected the Romanoids.  This has created a cultural imbalance which we can no longer tolerate.

We feel that the Romanoids have degenerated away from representative government.  So, as we have to push them away, we look to achieve a balance by approaching the Russians.

My definition of the "West" is the Atlantic Coast people of so called "Europe", moved to North America.  But since NATO, the Romaniods have tried to say it is them.  I guess it was them in deep history, but not as much now.

In any case I think the current functions are about rebalancing back to American centered culture, and rejecting the Romanoids as central to our culture.  They are part of our cultures but, I feel they have an arrogance and should seek humility.

We don't want to go into yet another butcher shop where the Romanoids try to replace the Steppe Peoples, even exterminate them.

It is obvious that what the Romanoids have to offer is a repeat of WWII.  It is my belief that was the Romanoids using the Germans as puppets, that brought that war on.  Of course at a time they had reason to be concerned about the communists.

But when the Romanoids try to get us into a slaughterhouse in the Ukraine, we need to say no thanks, with fists if necessary.

Working with Russians we have hopes of balancing the proximate world, and the Russians have lots of minerals they may be willing to sell to us.

This might make it more possible for us to develop renewable and other energy.

And so, probably Canada would do well not to be a catspaw for the Romanoids in Europe.

Romanoids: Dublin<>London<>Paris<>Rome<>Athens<>Cairo<>Arabia?
We cannot have a world civilization centered only on these as the hero's of the story.  I don't think it was American intention to use NATO to facilitate Aggression
from those power centers to force Northern peoples to submit.  And when the Romanoids don't even try very hard to maintain representative government, and instead start resorting to Hierarchy of the Royals, I think you can count us out.

Romanoid: (Brussels)

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Can Tariffs Replace Income Taxes? Peter Zeihan
https://zeihan.com/can-tariffs-replace-income-taxes/

So, he thinks Tariffs could be a part of taxes, but could be detrimental if excessive.

I do know of a tax I want.  A phone spam tax.

I constantly get phone calls suggested to be potential spam.

I think each phone number should be allowed a certain number of tax-free calls in a time period, and then after that "TAX!".  That will get rid of some of the problem, I expect.

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Readers need to understand that I don't specifically have a need to see a merger of Canada and the USA, but as I live in one of the two, I have an interest in such relations.  I think I see some forces that may be important in the matter.  But here is Peter Zeihan: https://zeihan.com/will-the-us-and-cana … lly-merge/

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Will the US and Canada Actually Merge?

Posted on March 4, 2025By Peter ZeihanIn Canada, United States

I think that it might be a curtsey if you are a wolf, if you let people know you are.  Not perhaps the best policy for being a successful wolf though.

I used to belong to a web site called United North America.  I was "Null", and of course here I am "VOID".  So, I had lots of interactions on the subject.  Frankly I decided that it was not worthwhile to promote a merger.  It seemed that we could do just fine without one.

But, if Canada and the USA are both changing over time, then perhaps a different environment will develop.  It may be that other arrangements could be forced upon us if we like it or not.

As Peter Zeihan has indicated, it may not be that wonderful for the USA to absorb Canadian territory, as for cultural clashes, politics, finances.

But the demographics of Canada have been described by Peter Zeihan in part.  Other parts are they are importing lots of people from locations around the world, and I think many of them will be from the second British Empire.  I consider the First British Empire to have ended when the USA became independent.  The commonwealth still exists but does not include the USA.

Canada is apparently losing 81,000 people a year at this time.  I don't know how many are coming to the USA.  The point of that is likely these are to be the most productive people in many cases.  So, then that could be an economic drain on Canada.

While I don't support an intentional disruption of Canada, a falling apart might occur, even if we do our best to prevent it, (The wolf said).

The problems of statehood, Peter Zeihan has listed exist.  And Canadians pride themselves as being "Not like the USA".  So, what do we do with Failed States in the North, if there is no desire on either or both sides for them to become USA states?

Well, a commonwealth like Puerto Rico, or the North Mariana Islands might be possible, but then they are no longer independent nations.  Also, in those conditions we have responsibility for citizens financially.  We do have territories with some various status, I don't know much about.  I believe that generally if you are not a state you cannot vote in federal elections, and you do not pay federal income taxes.  They are not represented in the UN.  Frankly I am not sure I like the UN.  It is rather a troublemaker.  We can talk to China and Russia without them.  We are big boys and girls, we don't so much need a club for hating America, the hate comes for free.

There is such a thing as an "Associated State".  In that case the territory is not part of our country but has arrangements with our country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_state

With this, we could rig the UN, as each associated state might have a representative, perhaps.  I think that in the case of an associated state, it would be up to the associated state to decide if it wanted to continue the arrangement or modify it, (Presuming the USA was willing to allow the modification).  I think independence would simply be up to the Associated State.

Conquest by bedroom, would involve giving green cards to any Canadian you wanted to for them to have limited permission to work, and live in the USA.  Of course the result of that is bed hopping.  Females tend to prefer males who do not smell like their brothers.  Tests have been done for that.

So, we could steal their labor force if we do industrialize the USA more.

I could not resist; it is such an evil plan!

I don't think we will though probably we will be somewhat nice.  Not perfectly nice.  Canadians like to condescend at us after all.

The point is if the future evolves towards the decay of Canada, then it is better if we have plans to accommodate whatever results in the best manner possible.

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In January 2006, during the federal election election in Canada, I helped the local candidate. I created her website, and she asked me to create a blog, but didn't say what goes in the blog. I wanted to be candidate once she chose to not run again, so I posted my policy ideas and called it "Rob's blog".

One idea was to take the budgetary surplus at that time, apply it all to the debt. Don't cut spending, but don't increase spending either. Then make the total of payment to principle plus interest a fixed total every year. As the debt is reduced, interest charges will come down. For every dollar of interest reduced, increase payment to principle by the same amount. That's how the mortgage of a house works. Treat the federal debt as mortgage, pay the whole damn thing off. Once it's gone, not before, completely abolish federal personal income tax.

This wouldn't abolish all taxes, just one. EI & CPP premiums together are equivalent to Social Security; they would stay. Provincial tax is under authority of provincial governments, so if you want to do anything with that go talk to provincial politicians. But look at the pay stub you get with your paycheque; look at the box labeled "federal tax". That one box would be gone, and your paycheque would be that much bigger because it just wouldn't be deducted. It would not be replaced by a new tax or deduction, and other deductions would not increase.

To make the budget balance, a few more things. Finance Minister Paul Martin had reduced corporate income tax from 28% in 1993 to 21% in 2006. He intended to cut it further to 19% and stop there. As Prime Minister he also passed a law to abolish corporate capital tax, and intended to abolish corporate surtax. Great! GST would have to be frozen at the level it was at that time (7%). And tax on corporate dividends would have to be shifted from personal income tax to corporate, to ensure dividends stay taxes. Corporate income tax for small corporations would have to be frozen at what it was: 11%.

Also, close the personal income tax division of the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA), the Canadian equivalent to IRS. Not the whole agency, just personal income tax division. If provinces want to keep provincial personal income tax, then they will have to pay to collect it. Currently they don't, the federal government pays for CRA operations. Hopefully this will be incentive for provinces to find a way to abolish their personal income tax.

This doesn't completely prevent new spending. As the economy grows, keeping tax rates the same, revenue will increase at the same rate. If the economy grows 3%, then government revenue also increases 3%. That increase is all government has for increased spending. That means very modest new spending, but there is some. And expect no new spending at all until 2 or 3 years after the "mortgage" begins. (Let's call it 3.)

Based on the balance of the debt published in the 2005 federal budget, this would have taken 16 years. Starting January 2006, that means income tax should have been abolished January 2022. But it turned out they played accounting games, the debt was larger than stated in the budget. And there was the junk mortgage crisis in the US in 2008/'09, which did impact Canada. Then COVID. But if we had started this in 2006, we would be in a much stronger position now. The sooner we start, the sooner we're done. Unfortunately Paul Martin  was back-stabbwd by his own party. Politicians started spending again. We have an out-of-control deficit... again.

Did all this inspire Trump and team?

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Did all this inspire Trump and team?

If it did, then thank you!  We were completely headed for hell before Trump got back in.

You should appreciate a returned favor, (But not make that appreciation public).

By Trump annoying your darlings in Ontario, and Quebec, some chance exists that Alberta may get some pipelines.  That will free the west up just a bit, even if it never goes independent or to the USA.  Your east has to make a choice now.  They either have to appease Alberta and perhaps others or make deep enemies with parts of their own population in the west.

It is becoming apparent as a probability, that the globalists intents have been to deindustrialize Europe and North America, to leave them open for conquest from the people who do not have American or maybe you might have said Canadian values.

It would suit us quite well if you could do more for any allies that we might hope to count in the Pacific.

As for the Green Energy Transition, I am actually a believer, long term.  But you don't strip naked and throw your cloths away before you have replacements for them.  At least if you want to be safe in this world.

And it appears that if you have an eye for it windfalls can still happen: https://www.msn.com/en-us/science/chemi … ngNewsSerp  Quote:

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So, North America might like to have one or two of those.

And in that case, I do not care to try to oppose the petroleum industry as even when the sources begin to run out, we may very likely have Green Energy and Natural Hydrogen.  For Solar and Wind, Hydrogen Peaker plants, and batteries might do just fine.

I read that that new guy you have got is a total snake globalist.  If you let them run your stuff, you are going to be very poor in my opinion.  And in that case, we would hope you would find friends in the USA to help you get loose of those who hold your captive.

Don't be woke, wake up instead.

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OK, this guy has a better mind by far than me, at least for alignment to current realities: https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/03/10/ … my-status/  Quote:

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This is rather odd; some people may be upset: https://www.prometheanaction.com/the-mo … h-10-2025/
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Some of the materials rhyme with things I already know/suppose.  So, it is either potentially significantly aligned with truth, or a crafty deception.

I am entertained.

So, if I am to believe this China is participating in drug trafficking to North America, for entities loosely connected to some global British Empire "Wanna-Be".  Even though China has a hatred for the Opium Dens of old that the "West" imposed on China.

I do agree that there was an effort to get China out of the Soviet Block by exporting North American industry to China.  And that was a big money ploy to benefit also the financial elites.

I also agree, I think that there is an awakening of America's other half, which has been asleep for the whole of the last turning.  I think that a "Lumpy" world is better for the American cause than is a globalist concept.  Globalism presumes a "Flat-Earth" view, in my opinion.  It is quite possible that various entities have such archaic concepts of reality.  And they may have notions of a ruling center somewhere on a flat Earth, but although they may co-operate with each other, in the end, I think that they each have a different view of where this Glorius capital city for this flat Earth globalism should be.

A lumpy world, understands that a Spherical Surface has some of the characteristics of a flat surface, but does not have a singular center.

I admire much of the work of Peter Zeihan, but he let slip at one point a contempt for American thinking and preference for German thinking.  So, his work applies well to some parts of reality but less so to other parts.

It is curious that "Globalists" are "Flat Earth Thinkers", and "Multipolars" are Spherical-Surface in thinking.

Dangerous materials though.

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I have some questions.  https://biblehub.com/study/matthew/22-21.htm

Is this possibly a source of notions of distribution of power under God?

That is the priests naturally wanted to be very powerful and resented the power of the Romans.  From India, at some point I got the notion of Aquisitioners, Warlords, Intellectuals, and Priests as major subdivisions of power.

To avoid confusion, I will define my personal notions of these.
Aquisitioner is a sort of businessman.
Warlord, is a sort of military figure.
Intellectuals are people who might investigate nature and write a book.
Priests are people who read records and try to order reality from the concepts in those records.

So, then a question is does all of Gods will pass though Priests only?  I think it is easy to say that Priests can be Good or Evil.

So, then can the Good of God be implemented though the other three categories?

And here is a problem between the so called "Western thinking" and Archaic Thinking.  If you would think of Jesus as an innovation source, does the separation of powers come though those words?

If a religion comes where Priests want to have the absolute power claiming also the power of the other three, can there be a modern society?

America has for some time had a "Along Side" relationship with the British Constitutional Monarchy.  We could trust a Queen who represented the Church of England, and so the teachings of Jesus.  But a King that flirts with Archaic processes, I feel may be unacceptable to us in the long run.

In the dialog above I understand that some of you reject the idea of God, or Jesus.  But the teaching attributed to Jesus seems to have some deep meaning.

Is this the beginning of emergence of distribution of power?

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A Priest recalls past writings in books to the now.  An intellectual moves from the now to the future.

It is important not to allow a priest to pose as an intellectual.  Not to allow them to assume powers they are not entitled to hold.

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I find it to be sad that what may be an unjust leadership in recent times, does not how to dance to the patterns in time.

So, I look for better chances than that.  Maybe there is something of value in the above.  I am still considering it.

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Isaac Arthur's latest video: Exile Space colonies.
https://youtu.be/oSwW7_JkzTQ

The idea that a private group of people might establish a space colony to escape conditions on Earth, is a plausible one.  I cannot see this sort of thing happening until humanity is fairly well established in space.  Established enough to be able to build interplanetary ships using space based resources.  But at some point, well funded individuals are bound to try it.  The outer asteroid belt would be an attractive target.  Far enough from the sun to allow ice to be stable and volatile elements to be in reasonable abundance.  But still close enough to allow solar power to work.

Why would such a colony be established?  There could be religious or political reasons.  Gerard O'Neill discussed the potential for homesteading missions in his book 'The High Frontier'.  Such ships would be solar powered and would use mass drivers for propulsion.  Propellant would be either liquid oxygen or finely ground solids.  The use of solar power becomes progressively more difficult beyond the orbit the Mars.  In the outer asteroid belt, flux is down to about 10% what it is in near Earth space.  Asteroids are relatively easy to land on and take off again.  So realistic targets are the near Earth asteroids and main asteroid belt.

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That is rather complex, but I will make an attempt.  Of course, it will be tilted to my biases, which may in part be my own emotional damage.  Anyway, here goes....

Here I am biased towards a binary gender system as the dominant preference for a growing population.  Others more or less just leave behind poo, not so much their genes.

Genes being a pattern, nature only favors persistence of pattern though time.

Nature tests each gender, not necessarily the same way, and human communities also test individuals of a gender, not necessarily the same way.

For the Male, I think that gene persistence could result from either the "Capable Man", or the "Dominant" man.  NASI may not like the capable man very much as it may result from overlapping gene pools.  By random walk or other factors, a family or group line might acquire a set of useful genes that may be profitable if they have a situation where they can be used.

But the "Dominant Man", feeds on other people, subordinates them under him.  I would think that ultimately these two the "Capable Man" and the "Dominant Man" are not compatible in closed spaces.  It is my opinion that part of the problems that cultures that practice Polygamy have is the loss of the "Capable Man" and the oversupply of the "Dominant Man".

When creatures group up for mating, it seems to lead to one individual of a gender doing more of the breeding, while the others of that gender do not so much.

Lions seem to have one Lion.  Bees have one Queen.

So, the "Dominant Man" expresses his genes too much for a community to be prosperous, I think.

Also, in something like a plantation community, the dominant female may arrange that other females are just servants.  It is possible that her "Dominant Man", will breed with them even if it is not polygamous, but that often ends in some punishment for the servant and her child.

The French kept their population down by not allowing servants to breed at all, I believe.

Many people have the instincts to do "Naughty Nookie", at some time in their life, but there is a sometimes hidden sex tax that many people charge each other, to interfere with others successfully breeding.  There are excessive amounts of rules to keep people from breeding, but if you are in a less crowded place then you are doing less hiving.

If "Naughty Nooky" occurs in the woods out of sight, can it be sin taxed?

Nature has weeded out most people who do not want to replicate genes, so there is a natural impulse to sequester away from a "Dominant Man" or his "Queen Bee Wife", who both may find a way to interfere with your ability to procreate.

I think I found something interesting about the Greenland Colony of the Norse, and the later colonial activities of Europeans.

I think that during the entire time of the occupation of Greenland by the Norse, the western church had not split.  So, they actually having had converted to Christianity had to pay a tithe, to a European country when it was possible for a religious person to collect it.

Greenland in places was about as good as places in Norway when the Norse arrived, but deteriorated over time.  Partly due to the little ice age, and partly due to overuse of the land.

For the Norse, to some extent Greenland was a convenient place for some of their troublesome people to go to.

This would also be true for the later settlement of the Americans in total.  Rather than having to kill and jail malcontents, you might just send them off to a distant place if you were a "Dominant Man" and his "Queen Bee".  And if you could find a way to draw wealth from such a settlement, then, all the better.  But the reformation had occurred, so....The British had lots of weird sects, and those could go away to hinterlands, and so then the tithe would not go to Europe, but would stay in North America more so, I think.  This might be a difference between the Greenland colony, and the later North American colonies.

I think it turned out to be rather clever that the British set the 13 colonies free.  It allowed them to be separated from the Spanish in the Americas, and they made money anyway.  In the revolution, the slave states had hoped to renege on their debts to the British.  But after the war, American had to borrow money from the British, so the southerners, had to pay up anyway.  The Southern plantation people wanted to liver high and to keep up with the Jonses, so they were in debt most of the time I believe.

And America was a dumping ground for lots of British religious sects I believe.  Even after the independence.  More room for the "Dominant Man" and his "Queen Bee".'

Men, some of them "Capable", were able to get a plot of land out of sight of the "Dominant Man", and nature happened, quite a lot.

An example of a failed effort was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darien_scheme

It was not good to be in reach of the Spanish at that time, and Panama was a really bad place to try to make it if you were from Scotland, I suppose.

I believe that that failure was in part how Scotland somehow found itself in the power again of the English.  Not to clear on that.

I think Belize might have resulted in part from that action or a similar one.
https://www.cowbrough.co.uk/post/663020 … 0in%201698.

So, maybe I have exposed some of the factors that drive the expansion of settlements, I hope.

In our era, I am afraid somehow, we have allowed some forces to get into the heads of the population and to make them less fit to breed.  I think we need to find out who that was, and how they did it and then we need to end them.

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I am going somewhat off track Calliban, but perhaps onto a path that is essential, I hope.

While humans seem too often have an unconscious impulse to procreate and then continue pattern beyond their life spans, it seems most likely that line of pattern will eventually end and be replaced by "Superior?" or non-living pattern.

Will the Neanderthals thank us if we wake them from the sleep of death?

And yes, that is the dark thing.  In the end though, nature favors those who have faith, hope, and love.  That is, continuation of pattern seems to be what is appropriate.  It is a sort of "Might-As-Well" thing, and requires some courage actually, that we do not waste our time here.

I speak as a male as I am identified as a male by structure and habit.  And so, I speak more about males, as I know quite a bit less about what it is to be female.

I do think I know this recent thing I have read, that an apparent female love of here children is actually genetic perpetuation instinct.  And it is now wrong, it is highly adaptive.  It is growth oriented, not decay oriented.

An acquaintance I worked with, saying himself Danish in history by genetics, made a claim that some feminine products are designed to reduce female enjoyment of sex.  So, why would such a thing exist, if it exists?

We do know that the "Woke" crowd absolutely interferes with regenerative breeding.  Why do some corporations support it?  Bud Light, Target tuck friendly underwear for boys?

Is this possibly like the opium trade, to first offer pleasure, and then to damage a person so they cannot enjoy life without a fix?  If it can be presumed that most of us inherit a compulsion to breed, is such perversion from that, going to cause a psychological set of problems, which corporations can claim to solve with a product that can be purchased.

Quite a rabbit hole.  True or imagined?  Well, we know that the game in drugs is to hook a victim into a degenerate pattern that pulls them into a darkness, that thereafter may require "Fixes" as a chance of relief.  And so, can sexuality be messed with the hope of profits for a corporation run by a psychopathic Dominant Man or perhaps woman?

I do not have proof, but it is greatly suspicious as to why corporations are so desiring to support the woke.

And why should I care or should anyone care?  Well, if we live to accomplish something we may hate to see it consumed by the decay of a Satanic human hating force.

If we would want a "Settlement" to prosper as to not be in vain, then we need to find these creatures and end them.

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I am willing to listen to someone like this, to a large degree, because I believe in time phases, and I believe that France and the UK are not quite enemies at this point, but they are not true allies.  We are supposed to go our own ways for a time I believe.  The only thing I will hate is if they continue to try make the USA subservient and to lead us to very dangerous waters.

I really do think we will have to make our own container in the Americas, and try to have practical relationships with Russia and perhaps China, if possible.

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I thought we could manage to setup free trade with the UK, and that maybe that world would be a good one.  But Biden did not want that, and now it seems that it is unlikely that we can take the UK into our trust anymore.

I reserve the right to change my mind should I find reasons to change my mind, but for now, my thinking seems to be with the President and his crew.

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Void, the problem isn't the UK, it is the UK government.  The UK is run by a wannabe communist regime.  It is a regime that rules without public consent.  It maintains authority not by satisfying the will of the people, but by threatening them into silence and by making political opposition practically impossible.  At the same time, they are importing over a million people a year, in the hope that the newcomers will drown out the wishes of native population in future elections.  The UK is therefore a terrorist state.  A state that maintains power by threatening dissenting voices and undermining political opposition.

We have arrived at this point because the UK doesn't have a written constitution.  The sort of political revolution that the Democrats tried to enact in the US failed because the constitution prevented them from stamping all over personal liberty.  In the UK the revolution succeeded, because we lack the limitation of power of the state over individuals that the US constitution provides.  It is one of the reasons why I hold the US constitution to be such a praise worthy document.

The POTUS and VP Vance both understand this.  The UK political autocracy clearly is not a sustainable position.  Until it is resolved, the US should avoid legitimising the criminal regime in Britain.  The focus needs to be on regime change.  When the terrorist regime is removed and a democratic government is actually elected, I have no doubt that relations will improve.  But it wouldn't be responsible for the US to give preferential treatment to the UK until the latter respects the same freedoms that the US was founded upon.

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Well, you seem to have something: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … ba6167b5d3  Quote:

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I have considered that there is a great danger, each time that the concept of reprehensive government bleeds into new locations on the planet.  This was true of the French Revolution and the Russian Revolution.  My feeling is the transition between old world governing values "Atlantic" governing values, which to a great extent come from the USA, leaves open the potential for actors of insincere character to pose as the leaders of a new era.  They co-opt the assentation process and lead it into darkness.

Of course, the above glorifies us a bit more than we are truly worthy of for acclaim.  But we still have desires for a greater perfection even if we fall far short of such perfection.

I think that the Napoleonic cravings or Romanoid Europe, are struggling to have the EU take possession of NATO, and so then to make North America and perhaps the UK subservient to a new fascist dictatorship.

The Romans for whatever reason split the Empire a long time ago, and those fault lines persist.  It is dangerous to treat them as trivial.  And the Romans never really mastered the other half of the entity, the Russianoid one.  Even in Britian they turned away from the Picts alone and built a wall.

The English eventually conquered the land of the Picts, but that, I believe was only because of the size difference and food supplies. 

The USA and CANADA have managed to pass across this great divide.  Although Canada seems a bit fragile just now.

I think that for Europe a Hitlerian or Napoleonic danger exists from the EU.  Instead of the glass half full view they see the half empty view.   They don't count how much has been gained since the end of the Cold War.  And the great danger is to democracy, because now they are studying the tools of war, and looking at maps, thinking that there are no fault lines in reality that they cannot overcome by the force they falsely judge that they have in reserve.

The great pity is that the Ukraine could probably have joined the EU, if they simply gave the Russians naval rights of permanence, in Crimea, and if they had allowed autonomy between east and west Ukraine.

Here in the USA, we have states so that fault line pressures can generally be dissipated as those pressures build up.

But as I have said before our danger in the EU is similar to the danger of the French and Russian revolutions coopted by dictatorship.  And this time the danger has promise of annihilation of all that has been built.

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Re: Peter Zeihan again: and also other thinkers:

The English never conquered the 'Land of the Picts'.  They bribed them into a political union.  Scotland retained all of the institutions of a nation.  Seperate legal system, education system and church.  On the whole, union has worked very well on both sides of the border.  But the problem now is that the UK never really moved on from being a monarchy.  It does have a sort of unwritten constitution in English common law.  But there isn't really anything to limit the power of the state over the individual.  We really are subjects of the king, rather than free citizens of a republic, all equal under god.  Parliament is not subservient to the will of the people, although there are elections.  It is His Majesty's government.  So long as wise men are in charge, the difference is not so great as to cause problems.  But since the end of WW2, the UK political class has been corrupted into autocratic ways of thinking that does not respect the will of the people and seeks to enslave and replace them.  Because of the absence of a written constitution, these people have been far more succesful than they were able to be in the US.

'No free trade without free speech'

I like that.  It is exactly what I had hoped a Trump administration would do.  An internal revolt is quite impossible in the UK.  The populace is entirely disarmed, owning a weapon will land you in prison and speech is closely monitored and punished.  The British cannot regain their freedom without help from the outside.


"Plan and prepare for every possibility, and you will never act. It is nobler to have courage as we stumble into half the things we fear than to analyse every possible obstacle and begin nothing. Great things are achieved by embracing great dangers."

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