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#851 2021-06-12 20:45:55

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#852 2021-06-13 08:44:21

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"human guinea pigs." A federal judge just ruled against over 100 Houston hospital workers who will be fired if they don't get the COVID-19 vaccine

A federal judge on Saturday dismissed a lawsuit brought by some employees of a Texas hospital over its requirement that workers be vaccinated against COVID-19

A vaccinated person's guide to the most concerning COVID-19 strains


SARS-CoV-2 virus that infected patient zero has spawned numerous variants as it multiplied through the human population with new novel coronavirus's variants have sprung up all over the world, with some of the most prominent mutations appearing in England, South Africa, Brazil, India and California.

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#853 2021-06-13 10:20:50

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All viruses mutate. No reason to suggest Covid 19 is unusual in that. Nearly 30% of India/Delta variant deaths in the UK are from people who were doubly vaccinated. So vaccination is not the cure it was claimed to be.

We should take seriously treatments like HCQ, Ivermectin and so on.


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"human guinea pigs." A federal judge just ruled against over 100 Houston hospital workers who will be fired if they don't get the COVID-19 vaccine

A federal judge on Saturday dismissed a lawsuit brought by some employees of a Texas hospital over its requirement that workers be vaccinated against COVID-19

A vaccinated person's guide to the most concerning COVID-19 strains


SARS-CoV-2 virus that infected patient zero has spawned numerous variants as it multiplied through the human population with new novel coronavirus's variants have sprung up all over the world, with some of the most prominent mutations appearing in England, South Africa, Brazil, India and California.


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#854 2021-06-13 13:09:44

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Re: 2019 NCOV a.k.a. Wuhan's Diseases

How soon we've forgot that they do not work at all....

Larry Brilliant, The Doctor Who Eliminated Smallpox Says COVID-19 Is Here to Stay

Since its jumping from mammal to humans and to other species its going to not be easy to stop....

CDC Just Issued Health Warning About New Disease of respiratory in nature.

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#855 2021-06-14 19:51:17

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#856 2021-06-15 04:40:42

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Lockdowns create opportunities for variants to develop.

But this Delta variant nonsense is more mind control.

Florida is open & dergulated for Covid and as far as I know they aren't yet collecting bodies off the streets in carts.


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#857 2021-06-15 20:19:16

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The virus variants are born out of rapid infections and not isolation as the timeline for the body to render it not an issue is around 2 weeks..
So not going about ones business and staying home does work its those that did not stay home which increased its spread during that period by acting as if nothing was working...

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#858 2021-06-16 18:24:12

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#859 2021-06-16 18:52:41

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BS. Unless you are going to "weld" your people into their homes then millions of people continue to mix in supermarkets and gas stations and doctors' surgeries and all the rest, wearing their ineffective masks. The virus is still circulating but at a slightly slower pace, which gives time for variants to develop. If you let people mix (obviously while encouraging the vulnerable to stay at home) you achieve herd immunity much more quickly at which point the virus cannot mutate into new variants so easily. 

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The virus variants are born out of rapid infections and not isolation as the timeline for the body to render it not an issue is around 2 weeks..
So not going about ones business and staying home does work its those that did not stay home which increased its spread during that period by acting as if nothing was working...


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#860 2021-06-16 19:00:08

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What do you all think about the example of Florida. Open for months - and no disaster despite its elderly vulnerable population.


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#861 2021-06-16 21:35:59

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Louis,

Florida Man ain't afraid of no Kung-Flu, even if The Legend Continues...

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#862 2021-06-18 21:45:20

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#863 2021-06-22 18:43:36

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The D variant is coming on strong all over the world and now its back to Moscow imposes new virus restrictions as cases rise in the latest lockdowns to occur to slow the virus infections' pathway around the globe again....

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#865 2021-06-26 12:50:59

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The Delta strain has caused Sydney in Two-Week Lockdown as Delta Variant Infections Rise

The United States on Tuesday surpassed 600,000 Covid-19 deaths with 99 percent of its most current deaths because of non-vaccinated people, and the Delta is yet to strike.

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#866 2021-06-26 14:19:01

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What does "Covid deaths" mean?  Very old people who die from respiratory disease have an average of 14 pathogens in their lungs. Why choose Covid 19 over anything else? It's old age that's killed them. Vaccines won't see them. In every country that introduces mass vaccination programme beginning with the elderly we see the death rates rise steeply.


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The Delta strain has caused Sydney in Two-Week Lockdown as Delta Variant Infections Rise

The United States on Tuesday surpassed 600,000 Covid-19 deaths with 99 percent of its most current deaths because of non-vaccinated people, and the Delta is yet to strike.


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#867 2021-06-26 16:22:06

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Do any of those others illnesses or diseases cause death in less than 2 weeks from getting them?

That means those are secondary to the main cause which was getting covid....

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#868 2021-06-26 16:28:09

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You can't tell from a positive test. Remember these tests are not accurate. Some studies suggest they could be 40% inaccurate. Everyone who goes to hospital now gets tested for Covid. But they don't get tested for flu as standard. Or common cold. Or various bacteria. All of which can kill people through lung disease.

You can certainly look at excess deaths over average to get an idea of the impact of Covid. You will find that is a lot less than the headline figures. But then you need to accept that this is no different from a bad flu year when you will see similar excess deaths.

Covid has been essentially the same as a very bad flu years so a lot of people near the end of life have been taken 3 to 6 months earlier than would otherwise be the case.

It's bad but no reason for giving away all your liberty and turning yourself into a slave of the state.

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Do any of those others illnesses or diseases cause death in less than 2 weeks from getting them?

That means those are secondary to the main cause which was getting covid....


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#869 2021-06-26 18:42:45

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Well I have said before that identification is part of the medical care problem and that lumping things by general symptoms is just as bad.

I have seen no change in the medical care facilities which one has to make use of.

All they seem willing to do is cover or mask the symptoms and thats it.

Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson (R) on Saturday implored residents to get vaccinated as COVID-19 cases rise in the state.

Only 0.8 percent of fully vaccinated individuals are dying, and only 0.1 percent are being hospitalized, according to the analysis.

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#870 2021-06-27 08:51:46

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Just got word via email that bother is or has gone to the hospital. Getting an MRI for possible stroke or other (Bells palsy) as caused by the covid virus damage...
He was doing well with the lungs getting better from the virus damage to not needing the oxygen any where near as much. Probably was going to need to retire from working early but now thats more of the case....

edit
update is Bells Palsy and he is home with medication...

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#871 2021-06-28 02:43:32

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COVID-19 Live Updates: India reports 46,148 new cases and 979 deaths in 24 hours
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/coron … 19307.html

Coronavirus: Delhi enters new phase of ‘Unlock 2021’ from today; Delta surge forces fresh lockdowns around globe
https://www.financialexpress.com/lifest … r/2278982/

Bolsonaro's most controversial coronavirus quotes. Brazil President Jair Bolsonaro has repeatedly played down the coronavirus pandemic.
https://news.yahoo.com/bolsonaros-most- … 10312.html

Brazil records 33,704 new COVID-19 cases
https://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/270 … d-19-cases

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#872 2021-06-28 02:56:33

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SpaceNut wrote:

update is Bells Palsy and he is home with medication...


Sorry to hear that, hope all will be ok. I don't really know many who went through this, think I hear this facial paralysis can pass after some time, it could be hours or days or it could be years I think iots typically 6 months, they say after some months or years a condition normally gets better by itself. I think its still one of those 'unknown' illnessand maybe Physiotherapy, or Alt-medecine like Acupuncture might work with helping something recover sooner, most people recover from it, some people tape their weak eye to help them sleep and others say tear drops or eye ointments can help things get back to normal, I think its would be more difficult for women as they tend to be more concered about their look.

The virus itself and there are certain Vaccine that might not be 100% effective and in some cases can cause Bells Palsy

FDA issued a warning about some vaccines not working as good as others.
https://canadianmale.wordpress.com/2020 … ecipients/

There was also a warning on an Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine acorss Europe but I think this was related to Blood Clots

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#873 2021-07-03 19:20:30

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Heading towards herd immunity means getting those shot counts up as Oregon's COVID-19 vaccination rate hits 70 percent getting of the virus has its down side for that immunity for the herd.

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World's safest place? Vermont leads US vaccine race.

The White House acknowledged that the country will miss President Biden's goal of 70% of course no blame for how each state is handling dispensing them

So far, only 18 states, as well as the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico, have surpassed the 70 percent marker for vaccinations.
while the Red states are nearer to only 50%.

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#874 2021-07-03 19:38:09

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Let's see if this works...
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#875 2021-07-25 17:53:33

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The original topic on covid virus and we did talk about the different vaccines and how effective they we showing in the prevention of deaths and not being a cure to not getting the virus at all.

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