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#101 2018-11-19 16:19:10

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Trump appointed for Session's is still on the suit filed by Richard Blumenthal, Mazie Hirono, and Sheldon Whitehouse argues that the acting attorney general appointment is unconstitutional.

The three contest that how can he serve when there is a Federal investigation that occurred last year. Where Matthew Whitaker, was an advisory board member of a Miami patent company accused of fraud by customers. Then there is the already on record spoken interviews for the affordable care act, and Mueller's investigation all in non support....

This is a job that is above an individuals opinion of the the cases and must be unbiased and impartial for carrying out the law. All of which is not to guard Trump's butt.....

Mueller maintains that Trump’s controversial DOJ pick 'has no effect' on the special counsel's authority

“Acting Attorney General Whitaker’s designation neither alters the Special Counsel’s authority to represent the United States nor raises any jurisdictional issue,” Mueller’s team wrote in a brief filed Monday. “The Special Counsel continues to exercise the same authority, and the jurisdiction of the district court and this Court is intact.”

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#102 2018-11-20 20:46:42

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#103 2018-11-21 18:25:12

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Rudy Giuliani tells CNN that Robert Mueller is not done with seeking answers from Trump
so far on responses dealt with events during the presidential campaign and before Trump was sworn into office.

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#104 2018-11-23 21:47:57

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#105 2018-12-07 19:35:07

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In Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s latest filing in the Paul Manafort case on Friday, a report reveals that Manafort lied about his contacts with President Trump’s administration officials, in addition to other findings of false statements. Manafort lied to Mueller about contacts with Trump administration and Russian associate with testimony from Cohen which told Mueller about contacts between Trump aides and Russia. Federal prosecutors in New York have accused the President of criminal violation of the federal campaign laws. They say Trump "directed" lawyer Michael Cohen to cover-up a campaign contribution.

With this multi-faceted investigation kicking into high gear it sees that Brian Benczkowski is recusing himself from all matters related to the Mueller investigation. Benczkowski, who was a lawyer for Russia's Alfa Bank before being named by Donald Trump to head the DOJ's criminal division, was less clear about recusal in testimony to the Senate.

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#106 2018-12-08 11:25:44

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Trump Says Tillerson Is ‘Dumb as a Rock’ After Former Secretary of State Criticizes Him

Tillerson also said “there’s no question” that Russia interfered in the 2016 Presidential elections, point blank. “What Russia wants to do is undermine our confidence, and undermine the world’s confidence in us,” he told reporters.


Not only is there speculations that Trump is at the heart of the investigation but because of the collusion acts as done for both sides as to change what would have been a proported Clinton win by the media in that Hillary may be also under investigation as well.
How Much Did Mueller and Rosenstein Know about Uranium One? All for cornering the market in Kazakhstan.

https://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-ve … nium-deal/

FBI raids home of whistleblower who had ‘dirt’ on Clinton

More than a dozen FBI agents searched for six hours the house of a contractor who had given Congress and the DOJ documents about the Clinton Foundation and the Uranium One scandal, implicating then-FBI director Robert Mueller.

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#107 2018-12-09 15:53:22

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SpaceNut,

This entire "Russian Collusion Investigation" charade has always been about distracting from the criminal activities of the FBI and Clintons in connection with their approval of the sale of American Uranium to the Russians long enough to destroy the evidence.  Only the FBI could tell you how many federal crimes their agency or the Clintons have committed, but they're too busy covering their own tracks to be bothered with any of that.  When Americans learn that their law enforcement agencies are politically-motivated and willing to commit crimes to further political agendas of a particular political party, the faith of the American people in our law enforcement and judiciary will be eroded.  That's what President Trump was talking about when he said that he had information that he thought would be destructive to America if it was released and wouldn't release it unless the Democrats intended to push their deceitful agenda to impeach him over the criminal activities committed by members of the previous administration.  The Democrats and their willing propaganda arm, the liberal media, are willing to do any deed and tell any lie to retain power.  The Democrat Party didn't count on the election of President Trump interfering with their crime spree because they badly misjudged how tired working Americans are of the Democrats pissing on them and telling them it's raining.

I'm sure this is all a very bitter disappointment for our Democrat Party faithful, but it's also why the "#WalkAway" movement has attracted so many former Democrats.  If the Democrat Party ever had an encounter with the truth, it's a freak accident.  Those who merely care about the future of our country recognize that all the shrieking and gnashing of teeth over President Trump over his election is a repudiation of the lawlessness of the Obama administration.  I've said it before and I'll say it again.  All the Democrat Party has to do to rectify this situation is to return to its core principles of supporting the working American.  All will be forgotten and forgiven if they do that.  If they continue supporting these new anti-American agendas, they'll encounter greater and greater resistance from the American people.

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#108 2018-12-09 16:26:46

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The testimony of comey indicates other wise for political sway by the one's that were running it and that the days of the investigation are only going to get longer with each new piece of the Trump puzzle.
The proported business deal for a flat in the Russian Trump tower project is a piece of the collusion wink, wink...
So far there are proported to be at least 4 americans for the collusion charges still to be filed.
Currently the charges for paying off the 2 pro's for the election campaing election will fall when he is out of office. But there are others still forth coming.

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#109 2018-12-10 07:17:21

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SpaceNut,

When all is said and done, there will be a light shining on all the blatant criminality of the Obama administration.  People who hate President Trump will choose to ignore that because they don't like what it means, but it's not making those crimes disappear.  Former President Obama's administration initiated an investigation of President Trump under false pretenses using falsified information provided to a FISA court judge for the express purpose of undermining a political opponent.  All they've found has been tax evasion, lying about tax evasion, and paying hush money to hookers.

Oh boy!  We have the crimes of the century here!  A married man paid off hookers and some of his associates didn't pay all of their taxes- and it's now public knowledge so it obviously didn't work.  Former President Obama's Fed chair, Timothy Geithner, was never prosecuted for failing to pay his taxes, so why prosecute these Trump administration people?  Former AG Holder was censured by Congress for lying to Congress about his department selling guns to drug cartel members.  His Secretary of State stole classified information from the US State Department and she was never prosecuted.  Moreover, the organization she ran approved the sale of our Uranium to those conniving Russians that the Democrats are now so worried are influencing our elections after a $140M "donation" to the Clinton Foundation.

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#110 2018-12-11 18:53:43

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These are not the false pretense as At least 16 Trump associates had contact with Russians

Then what initiated the warrant was internet traffic into the trump tower along with all the hacking that was happening....

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#111 2018-12-11 19:41:56

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SpaceNut,

More than 16 people from President Obama's administration surely had contact with a Russian at some point in their political or governmental agency careers.  Talking to the Russians is not a crime.  Good grief.  We're at least $40M into this politically-motivated charade and there have been precisely ZERO charges of espionage, treason, or conspiracy to commit such crimes.

There is actual tangible evidence (recovered files that former Secretary of State Clinton's people failed to properly destroy) that former Secretary Clinton stole classified information from the US State Department for unauthorized purposes (taking classified US Federal Government property without authorization is the dictionary definition of theft as it applies to the relevant statutes), which former FBI Director Comey testified to before Congress under penalty of perjury, and ZERO charges were filed over a crime that would see any military service member spending 20 years to life in Ft Leavenworth.

I think it's time that the Republicans appointed their own special prosecutor to start putting all of these Democrat Party politi-criminals under the same microscope as President Trump's associates.  We're already learning so much about the Clinton's pay-to-play scam.

Oh, and the 1950's called.  They want their McCarthyism back.

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#112 2018-12-12 19:25:24

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As Michael Cohen heads to prison, who could be next in Trump's inner circle? Cohen gets 3 years, says Trump's 'dirty deeds' led him to 'choose darkness' during a sentencing hearing in federal court in Manhattan in which Cohen claimed he acted out of "blind loyalty" to President Trump.  "Mr. Trump's repeated lies cannot contradict stubborn facts."

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#113 2018-12-13 14:59:51

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SpaceNut,

This charade was started to prove that President Trump or his campaign conspired with the Russians to affect the outcome of the 2016 Presidential Election, even though all the "evidence" was manufactured by Fusion GPS using funding provided by the Clinton Campaign.  Three years later, we have nothing to show for that effort.  With all the federal crimes perpetrated by federal law enforcement and members of the Obama administration, their reputation with the American people is on par with ambulance chasers.

More than $40M in tax payer money has been provided to fund this farcical investigation.  We've seen bank fraud and tax cheating that amounted to substantially less than the amount of money spent investigating, on par with the tax cheating and bank fraud from the Obama administration- which Democrat government officials were allowed to pay back without going to prison, and incomparably less than the amounts related to several of the frauds perpetrated by the Clinton Foundation, and, oh baby, President Trump's lawyer paid off some porn stars that he obviously slept with.  Wow.

How many crimes and of what varieties would be acceptable to impeach President Trump?

I know that's what you're hoping will happen, but you must know by now that it won't.

I want to see anyone put up evidence that something remotely like what was claimed by the Democrats took place or I must assume this is just a witch hunt with no actual interest in uncovering any issues related to national security and protection of election integrity.

Let's stick the government's microscope up the Clintons' rear ends to see what we find since she's already been caught red-handed stealing classified information.  Apart from pay-for-play, which is probably what she was really trying to hide by destroying her E-mails, what else went on?

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#114 2018-12-14 11:24:31

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As near as I can tell,  Mueller’s effort is nearly done.  The recent flood of court events presages that.  And,  there are rumblings here and there that Hillary’s emails and other Clinton Foundation activities are either coming under review,  or are already under review,  by other Justice Department groups than Mueller's. Hard to tell. 

But it would seem that justice might be closer to blind than many seem to think.  Although it is demonstrably still afflicted with the two-tier approach:  the rich get off somewhere between scot-free and probation,  the rest of us go to jail. That’s a far wider problem than just DC politics. 

As for Mueller’s investigation specifically,  I would hazard the educated guess that his report to Congress is mostly written now.  There will be some more underlings indicted,  I would think,  but this really is coming to its conclusion.  My best guess is that Mueller is waiting until late January to actually release it,  so that House Republicans cannot just bury it to protect Mr. Trump “at all costs”,  which is what they-as-a-group have done up to now.   

Whether Mueller has anything indictable or impeachable on Mr. Trump remains to be seen.  He knows much more than the indictments and convictions so far have revealed.  He very likely knows more than what can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in a courtroom.  (And I really applaud that there have been zero leaks from his team!)

But for a sitting President,  what to do about that which Mueller has uncovered is really up to Congress per Justice Department policy,  and Congress will punt that job away if it can,  regardless of what damage that does to the country.  That’s been the record so far.  House and Senate.  But with the House in opposition hands this January,  such punting is far less feasible.  That's good thing,  demonstrating why we get better government when no one party controls so much.

Myself,  I recommend waiting patiently until late January,  perhaps first of February.  Then,  we’ll likely find out something substantive,  at one level or another.  That’s my best guess,  and only a guess it is.  Watergate took longer than this has taken.  So did Ken Starr’s look at Bill Clinton. 

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#115 2018-12-14 17:42:54

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Trump's inaugural fund probed over illegal foreign donations Federal prosecutors are examining whether foreigners illegally funneled donations to President Trump’s inaugural committee and a pro-Trump super PAC.

Then there is this Russian connection that is Russian operative, and NRA poster girl, Maria Butina ...which has plea deal for guilty plea to spill the beans to Mueller....

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#116 2018-12-15 18:53:04

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Trump confides to friends he's concerned about impeachment

With good reason as the federal prosecutors announced an agreement with American Media Inc, in which the publisher of the National Enquirer admitted to making a $150,000 payment in 2016 to silence a woman alleging an affair with Trump, in coordination with his presidential campaign, to prevent her story from influencing the election. Of course when you hear on talk radio, pro Trump that congressional members have a slush fund for the same thing....

How sad....

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#117 2018-12-18 06:18:00

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So stop electing philanderers!

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#118 2018-12-18 17:13:37

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SpaceNut,

Whenever "Trump is concerned about" something that the liberal regressive media claims he's concerned about, it always comes from an un-named anonymous source.  You'll forgive me if I think they're still making stuff up since it's already been proven so many times that they did make things up.

Elderflower,

As near as we can tell, Mitt Romney was faithful to his wife and every bit as much a "Mr Magoo" as former President Obama.  The regressive media tried to paint him as someone who hated women, despite the fact that the hiring practices at his companies said otherwise.  Romney lost his election bid.  President Trump won his election, thus the title.  Some of us don't care about the puritanical belief systems of others and only care about results.  Bill Clinton screwed everything that walked on two legs and nobody in the media said a word about him.  We're supposed to believe that it didn't matter when he did it, but somehow it does now because otherwise the only argument they have left is, "I hate President Trump because he's a big doody head."

Since the electorate rejected our choir boy, but took no issue with all the blatant criminality when former President Obama was in office, we learned from our past mistake and tried a new strategy.  It worked.  Maybe the Democrats should try a new strategy since their tired old strategies are now failing badly.  Get off the identity politics, stop lying or omitting information when it doesn't support your worldview, and start following the law, even if you really don't want to because you don't like what the law says.

Crimes of the former Obama Administration:

* allowing the Justice Department to sell guns to drug cartel members and then lying about it
* allowing the CIA to sell guns to ISIS and then lying about it
* using the IRS to go after political opponents and then lying about it
* using the FBI to spy on political opponents after the political opposition makes false official statements and supplies false "evidence" to a federal FISA court judge, as the American public will soon "learn", and as always, lying about it
* allowing the State Department to approve the sale of 20% of our Uranium to the Russians and pretending that there was no involvement whatsoever on Hillary's part (somehow a $140M just ended up in the Clinton Foundation's coffers and our Uranium just grew wings and flew to Eastern Europe, where it eventually made its way to Russia)
* stealing classified information from the State Department and then lying about it
* attempting to conceal all those aforementioned federal crimes by destroying evidence
* every form of attack on the Constitution imaginable from immigration to health care to guns to search and seizure (no crimes were technically committed here because US Supreme Court judges voided all of former President Obama's unconstitutional executive orders)

No Democrat ever said a word about any of those crimes because they support any and all manner of criminality whenever and wherever it supports their agenda (whatever their agenda actually is, since no Democrat can seem to tell me what that is supposed to be, apart from committing crimes and getting rich by getting away with it).

You're here worried about where President Trump stuck his man parts before he was ever President?  Not one word about why so many women will choose to spread their legs in front of anyone who has the enough money?  Standards for some, but not all, huh?

All the women who accused former President Clinton were all lying whores.  Hillary said so, which is how we know that.  Since that wasn't enough to get rid of President Clinton when he did what he did while in office, whatever sexual misconduct alleged to have happened before President Trump was in office should be of no consequence whatsoever to the Democrats.

The very first time I get a Democrat to admit that all the crimes of the previous administration are actually crimes that anyone else would be prosecuted for and jailed for a very long time, I'll start to take them seriously when they whine and cry and gnash their teeth about President Trump banging a hooker before he was President.  This is political reality in America today and Democrats created it because decided to lower their moral standards, assuming they ever had any, whenever it was politically convenient to do so.  There is no moral high ground to occupy anymore.  We're electing Republican politicians who act like Democrat politicians, because they actually win elections, and the Democrats don't like it.  Boo hoo.  Cry me a river.

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#119 2018-12-18 20:04:03

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It seems that Flynn sentencing for Russian lying was put off for a period of time and was labeled as a traitor to the US.

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#120 2018-12-18 20:36:33

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Trump Faces Threat in New York Lawsuit Even After Charity Closes The charity’s dissolution doesn’t end the pending lawsuit against the president and Ivanka, Eric and Donald Trump Jr., who could be barred from serving as directors of any New York nonprofit for a period. Trump’s charity repeatedly broke state and federal laws by engaging in a decade-long pattern of self-dealing that culminated in illegal coordination with his 2016 political campaign.

Of course the Kremlin denies roiling US politics through social media

Reports released by the Senate intelligence committee Monday suggested that Moscow's efforts to help Donald Trump in his 2016 presidential campaign through social media were more far-reaching than originally thought, with troll farms working to discourage black voters and "blur the lines between reality and fiction."

Other players in the smear campaign Ex-Trump adviser Stone admits to InfoWars lies, settles suit but then again he still is of interest to investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 election.

But the smear did not stop there as Russia targeted African-American vote, made Instagram 'key battleground' in propaganda war: Researchers

The fact that just about all the big media pages are in need of change in light of all the investigation into what was done with regards to targeting of minority voters "incredibly seriously" and is working to "strengthen and advance civil rights on our service." Voter supression

There are currently 17 law suits tying up Trump and others at this time....

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#121 2018-12-18 20:57:27

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SpaceNut,

If Flynn is a traitor for talking to the Russians, then what does that make Clinton for signing off on the sale of 20% of our Uranium to the Russians for a $140M "donation" to the Clinton Foundation?

For every finger you point at the Republicans, there are three more fingers pointing back at the Democrats.

When you agree the Clinton is an un-prosecuted criminal for stealing classified information from the State Department and signing off on the sale of our Uranium to Rosatom, then we can trade horses over prosecutions for federal crimes.

There's a reason that the FBI raided the home of the whistle blower who pointed out all the illegalities of that transaction.  The FBI is involved in the coverup of Mrs. Clinton's crimes because some of their members and former members decided to turn a federal law enforcement agency into a political organization.

How do you sell this stuff to yourself?  How do you rationalize it?

Your candidate for President sold our Uranium to the big bad Russian boogeymen and stole classified information from what was then her organization, the US State Department, to try to conceal her crimes from government oversight that never came because Mueller's FBI did nothing to stop the Uranium sale even with the knowledge of corruption involved in the sale provided by a whistle blower, the FBI's own informant on the matter, yet you want to blame President Trump for her loss at the polls.  What was Comey supposed to do, given what Mueller did?  Tell the world that his organization was involved in the coverup of a massive Uranium heist and return the FBI to the political machinations of the Hoover era?  Why did Lynch sully the US AG's office by failing to prosecute what she knew was a crime, or at least was a crime for everyone else who's name was not "Clinton"?  What did Mr. Clinton offer her?

What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

You certainly have Lord Marmion's conundrum to contend with.  When you meet Wilton on the field of battle, know that it is your own political party who put him there.

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#122 2018-12-24 16:42:09

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Schiff will use subpoena powers if Trump quashes final Mueller report as Trump's attorneys try to assert executive privilege to stop the public release of special counsel Robert Mueller's eventual report.

California Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff said “I’m prepared to make sure we do everything possible so that the public has the advantage, as much information as we can Democrats will subpoena Mueller report if Trump tries to hide it — Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), the incoming chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, says Democrats will subpoena special counsel Robert Mueller's report if President Trump tries to invoke executive privilege to keep it secret.

“Impeachment” remains a taboo word for Democratic leaders who have officially pledged to keep an open mind until Mueller’s final report,

Mueller Investigation

Rep Adam Schiff

    Preexisting Business Deals and Money Laundering. Business dealings and money laundering …
    Russian Information Operations. When we speak in shorthand about the “hacking of the election,” …
    Active Cyber Intrusions. Separate from the trolls and bots on social media were a series of active …
    Russian Campaign Contacts. This corner of the investigation remains perhaps the most mysterious …

https://www.wired.com/story/bob-mueller … you-think/

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#123 2018-12-29 02:05:07

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kbd512,

Assuming that Clinton committed or perpetuated every crime attributed to her, what does that matter if our current president is committing or has committed fraud or crimes?

Just because the other guy got away with it seems like a poor excuse to absolve what we know to be poor behavior for our current regime.

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#124 2018-12-29 05:44:01

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clark,

Any proof of that, or just more insinuations without tangible evidence?

A claim backed by nothing or an even greater fraud doesn't amount to tangible evidence.

Three years of investigating President Trump and all we know is that his lawyer paid off a couple of hookers and some of the guys who he hired during his campaign cheated on their taxes before he ever knew them.  We've uncovered the crime of the century!

Face facts, man.  The Obama Administration spied on Clinton's opposition using "evidence" that was manufactured by her campaign and some of the crooked agents at the FBI lied to FISA court judge to obtain a warrant.  If that's "evidence" of anything, then that means President Trump can have some go-between do the same thing to his opposition, right?  No?  I thought not.

When the Democrat Party holds their own members to the same standards as the Republican Party, then we might have something to talk about.  Theft of classified information to avoid Congressional oversight and a failed attempt to destroy evidence of that theft, quite possibly for purposes of concealing other crimes, is not a minor offense to sweep under the rug.  Until then, we're just engaging in more partisanship.

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#125 2018-12-29 11:35:47

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We now live in a delusional world where no means yes and false means its true....

Facts are still facts...when the source is proven to be valid and true..

New Jersey AG has obtained evidence of possible crimes at Trump's golf club — and Mueller, FBI are involved in probe

Anibal Romero, a Newark attorney who represents several undocumented immigrants who used to work at the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, said Friday he recently met with investigators from the state attorney general's office and handed over fraudulent green cards and Social Security numbers that management at the club allegedly procured and gave his clients, Victorina Morales and Sandra Diaz.

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