Mueller's Russian Investigation

SpaceNut · 2018-09-03 19:02:11

More huffing and puffing from the Trump legal team. Giuliani: Trump legal team may try to block Mueller from releasing final report

This all being done to try an influence the outcomes of the elections. Continually claiming that he is the law that he can do anything
Trump you are not above the law....

Trump blasts Sessions over indictments of two of his earliest congressional supporters

"Politics must play no role in the decisions of federal investigators or prosecutors regarding any investigations or criminal charges. Law enforcement officers and prosecutors may never select the timing of investigative steps or criminal charges for the purpose of affecting any election, or for the purpose of giving an advantage or disadvantage to any candidate or political party,"
Under long-standing Justice Department custom, prosecutors generally avoid public disclosure of overt investigative steps involving a candidate for office or election matters within 60 days of an election.
But the so-called, 60-day rule is not an official regulation or found in any federal statute. Instead, it's up to prosecutors to use their best judgment and, above all else, make sure that political considerations play no role in investigative decisions.

Unlike Comey that does not seem to have these same restraints on the political changing of events...

These are those that Trump is fuming about....

Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-California, and Rep. Chris Collins, R-New York, were indicted within two weeks of each other last month on unrelated charges.
Collins was charged with 13 counts of securities fraud, wire fraud and making false statements related to an alleged insider trading scheme.

SpaceNut · 2018-09-04 17:34:31

Whinning like a 13 year old and not a man of age about session not stopping the indictments of the republicans.

Fails a mock Mueller questioning as indicated in the book by Bob Woodward....supported by tapes of the interviews and conversations.

And of course a response from Trumps teams of lawyers is that he would do written responses to questions from Mueller but not on collusion....If in his own hand writing to questions that Mueller already has the video taped responses, many twitter posts and more to what would call Trump into perjury either way......

SpaceNut · 2018-09-07 18:27:56

Trump proclaimed that the Russia investigation was a "witch hunt" and "fake news," one his lawyers, Thomas Breen, told the court. Breen argued that those comments influenced Papadopoulos's decision to lie to the FBI.
Papadopoulos' lawyers argued for probation in court Friday, making the case that "the president of the United States hindered this investigation more than George Papadopoulos ever could."
The defendant, George Papadopoulos, was sentenced Friday to 14 days in jail and one year of supervised release for lying to the FBI.

SpaceNut · 2018-09-08 10:46:48

The breadth of the investigation and just how many are involved is surprising. The 332 people connected to the Russia probes

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https://www.cnn.com/specials/politics/trump-russia-ties

Trump-Russia investigationThe key questions answered: Everything you need to know about the inquiry into Russian hacking, alleged collusion and Donald Trump, plus the latest news

Team Trump
84 associated with his 2016 campaign
47 are lawyers
35 are current or former Trump administration officials
26 served on the transition team
14 have ties to the Trump Organization
87 foreign nationals including 68 people with direct ties to Russia.

SpaceNut · 2018-09-12 16:59:27

There are a dozen or better very to close to call elections but what happens when we find interference of any kind?
We already do have laws to correct for this but these are being ignored.
Trump being Trump signed another executive order on elections...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09 … rence.html

President Trump signed an executive order Wednesday authorizing sanctions against any country that interferes with U.S. elections, declaring election meddling efforts a “national emergency.”
The executive order, signed just two months ahead of the November's midterms elections, addresses not only interference with campaign and election infrastructure, but also propaganda efforts.
The order, which is considered a national emergency due to sanctions authority requirements, instructs the Office of National Intelligence and the intelligence community to conduct regular assessments about potential foreign interference in elections.
The process, according to Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and White House national security adviser John Bolton, would take a total of 90 days.
Following Election Day, the intelligence community would have 45 days to collect data and assess whether interference had occurred.
We have seen signs of not just Russia, but from China, and the capabilities potentially from Iran and even North Korea.”

If that is the case then no person should declared to have won until the reports are finished....

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-sign … -meddling/

The executive order applies to anyone who authorizes, directs or sponsors such meddling.

Spelling it out for Trump that would include Collusion....

Trump's New Executive Order Slaps a Bandaid on Election Interference Problems

This is not the only place that can be corrupted....

"The proliferation of digital devices and internet-based communications has created significant vulnerabilities and magnified the scope and intensity of the threat of foreign interference [to elections]," Trump writes in the order. "I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with this threat."
The order covers attacks not just on vote integrity and election infrastructure, but also disinformation campaigns, information leaking, propaganda, and other types of interference like what took place during the 2016 presidential campaign.

Well when you do not believe the experts that collect and report on the data that we were hacked then the executive order is meaningless....

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/

SpaceNut · 2018-09-16 16:53:36

The US politics of Russian interference still is a top story for many and with Manaford taking a guilty plea and to cooperate with the Mueller team whats to happen now...

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/40691 … e-election

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09 … ublic.html

This the heavy redacted report that missed the fact that they did not interview for collusion or any ties there in. The Democrats report was not allowed or was even more marked up to remove evidence of them not doing there jobs.

Obama ethics chief: Trump is ‘not going to survive Manafort testimony’

The two charges included money laundering and illegally lobbying for a Kremlin-friendly group in Ukraine. "I think there's a substantial possibility that this evidence that Manafort is offering will implicate somebody up the chain," Eisen added. "Who is up the chain from Paul Manafort, who was the chair of the Trump campaign?"

Then there is Trumps supreme court pick that is his own troubles from the past...
California professor, writer of confidential Brett Kavanaugh letter, speaks out about her allegation of sexual assault

Voting is a right and to have all votes counted is why we are America’s anger paradox: Voters want the anger to stop but can’t stop being angry

Then there is the pocketbook issues such as the rising cost of health care, stagnant wages and unaffordable college tuition.

SpaceNut · 2018-10-07 18:48:48

With how the FBI has been performing can we trust what they will do to declassify or not to declassify?
That is the question, when it comes to the FBI’s original evidence in the Russia collusion case.

FBI’s smoking gun: Redactions protected political embarrassment, not ‘national security’

The Department of Justice (DOJ) and the FBI have tried to thwart President Trump on releasing the evidence, suggesting it will harm national security, make allies less willing to cooperate, or even leave him vulnerable to accusations that he is trying to obstruct the end of the Russia probe.
Until this past week, the footnote really had garnered no public intrigue, in part because the U.S. intelligence community blacked out the vast majority of its verbiage in the name of national security before the report was made public.
From the heavy redactions, all one could tell is that FBI general counsel James Baker met with an unnamed person who provided some information in September 2016 about Russia, email hacking and a possible link to the Trump campaign.
What makes this so extraordinary is that the FBI and the DOJ would have Americans believe that a contact with a lawyer for a political party during the middle of the election is somehow a matter of national security that should be hidden from the public.

Sounds like more than just face saving for the fbi....

SpaceNut · 2018-10-10 21:13:32

The Russia Richard Pinedo, 28, who has been cooperating with Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller in the continuing Russia inquiry, is the second target to be sentenced in the past two months.

We have seen quite a few not coming back for the gop but there is also changes that are going on elsewhere as well in Billionaire Michael Bloomberg is a Democrat once more. Bloomberg, 76, announced Wednesday that he had re-registered as a Democrat for the first time since leaving the party in 2001

SpaceNut · 2018-10-11 20:06:19

Another defector to the other side... Michael Cohen registers as a Democrat in latest break with Trump
Michael Cohen, who at one point in time used to say he would “take a bullet” for President Trump. The former Trump attorney, who up until June served as the Republican Party’s deputy finance chair, made the switch recently in Albany.

Complaints of Voter Suppression Loom Over Georgia Governor’s Race

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/electi … on-n918761

Georgia's population is approximately 32 percent black, according to the U.S. Census, but the list of voter registrations on hold with Kemp's office is nearly 70 percent black. Georgia is ground zero, if you will, when it comes to voter suppression and voting discrimination that we’re seeing this election season

SpaceNut · 2018-10-13 21:51:26

Paul Manafort is currently in prison but that's not yet the end of the story for the former Trump campaign chairman.

He was convicted in August in federal district court in the Eastern District of Virginia of five counts of tax fraud, one count of failing to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts and two counts of bank fraud. However, the jury deadlocked on three counts of failing to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts, and seven counts of bank fraud and bank fraud conspiracy. A mistrial was declared and the special counsel was ordered to decide whether to retry Manafort before the end of August.

Given that the Mueller team has secured guilty verdicts and cooperation agreements with Manafort, it's not unreasonable for them to dismiss the remaining charges on Oct. 19, when the parties are back before Ellis.

SpaceNut · 2018-10-20 20:57:15

The connect to what happened in the election seems to be producing evidence.... Massive Twitter data release sheds light on Russia’s Trump strategy

a trove of 10 million tweets it says represents the full scope of foreign influence operations on the platform dating back nearly a decade — including Russia's consistent efforts to disparage Hillary Clinton and an initially erratic approach to Donald Trump that eventually settled on a concerted pro-Trump message during the 2016 campaign.
The huge data cache consists of tweets from some 3,400 accounts tied to the Kremlin troll farm known as the Internet Research Agency and 770 others linked to Iran. It also includes some two million gifs, videos and other visual content. Twitter said it's making the information available to "enable independent academic research and investigation," according to a company blog post.

Wow....

SpaceNut · 2018-10-26 18:32:47

Asking for a shield as to what is going to be said Papadopoulos seeks immunity to testify before Senate Intelligence Committee

kbd512 · 2018-10-26 20:24:28

Some foreigners posted anti-American propaganda on the internet?

Hold the press.

How fascinated can people possibly be with someone else's thoughts in 140 characters or less?

Does anyone here use Twitter for anything and if so, what does it do for you?

SpaceNut · 2018-10-28 19:24:02

kbd512 · 2018-10-29 02:04:24

SpaceNut,

There are undoubtedly people gullible enough to believe something posted on social media who will subsequently change their vote, opinion, or even their way of life. The proof of that fact are the number of people in this country who still believe that our last Presidential election was somehow materially affected by some shadowy group of teenage Russian hackers in some babushka's Soviet-era nostalgia basement.

Congress and the Judiciary have yet to receive a single scintilla of tangible evidence that President Trump was involved in anything but a very successful political campaign against an opponent who could scarcely try to be less popular with the American people because the things she says on national TV would make any rational adult's skin crawl. There's principally an FBI investigation into this matter AT ALL because a political op-ed piece was penned by the employer of an FBI agents wife, who didn't like President Trump, an opposing political party was receptive to any possible negative thing they could simply make up about their political opponent, and oh yeah, she gave it to her husband who peddled that trash to a FISA court. She plead the 5th to avoid incriminating herself and her husband. Apart from the fact that it doesn't get anymore "1984" than this (political party manufactured "secret evidence" at a secret court proceeding that the accused was never permitted to be party to), those responsible for this absurd "investigation" are now working overtime to conceal their own crimes so that the political party they intended to support doesn't get anymore egg on its face in front of the American people than it already has and they don't go to federal prison.

His opponent was too busy scolding her potential voters for not having a more favorable opinion of her in polling, telling them how she would take away their jobs, and generally lacking anything remotely resembling a plan about how to move the country forward, apart from continuing the fecklessness of former President Obama's administration. How could President Trump not win? The Democrats ran Marie Antoinette as their candidate for President. What did they expect? President Trump is a street smart guy from New Yuk. He just waltzed right through all those places Queen Hillary didn't deign worthy of her majesty and he also showed real empathy with those people that the Democrats STILL think don't matter. Guess what? THEY MATTER!

The Democrats have more warm bodies who vote will for them on the east and west coasts of this country, but they nearly ignored everyone else who lives between sea and shining sea. It's just that great "fly-over" country, as Hillary would call it. You know, those places where things of value like the food that goes on the table and the trucks that deliver it there are made. Believe it or not, real Americans also live there, too. Moreover, President Obama's policies did those people no favors over the course of his administration. The Electoral College system that now seems to be the "en vogue" target of leftist pundits was about not having New York, California, Florida, and Texas deciding who is President for the rest of the country. If you can't figure out why the opinions of people who live in all those other places also matter, then I really think the entire concept of representative democracy flew right over on its way to the coast. A "representative democracy" doesn't mean that only the opinions of people who live in California and Yew York count.

How painful do the symptoms have to become before the Democrat Party starts to address the problems?

Here's a hint. The first step is admitting that you have a problem.

SpaceNut · 2018-10-29 17:13:49

There will be many that might swith there previous votes and just as many that will not like this if she does Hillary Clinton: 'I'd like to be president'

If there are no real contenders for the position then its back to the lesser of the 2 evils once more....

kbd512 · 2018-10-29 20:35:47

SpaceNut,

If the Democrats run Hillary Clinton again, then she'll lose again. People don't like her and she doesn't even understand how to connect with them. She was expecting a coronation, not a bitter fight over policy. It's a common problem for sociopaths. Their only form of "emotional intelligence" is really "emotional camouflage". In other words, learning how to mimic other people to blend in, in order to avoid detection.

SpaceNut · 2018-11-10 16:59:28

The mid term is pretty much in the bag and true to Trump demand of Jeff Session being told to resign Trump has replace the AG with someone that has called the probe a witch hunt in a Loyalist Matthew Whitaker. It is said that a temporary install is possible but the normal is a sucession of those that were confirmed or though a confirming process which he has not been through.

Mueller writing his final report on Russia probe, submission timeline unclear and may not be seen by those in government as it may paint the president.

Over the course of his investigation thus far, Mueller and his team of prosecutors indicted 32 individuals and three Russian businesses on charges ranging from computer hacking to conspiracy and financial crimes.
Those indictments have led to six guilty pleas and three people sentenced to prison. Four former Trump campaign officials – including his onetime national security adviser Michael Flynn and campaign chairman Paul Manafort – are among those who have pleaded guilty.

Still waiting on a get out of jail card as Tensions rising between Mueller, Manafort over level of cooperation

"Should it be judged...that the defendant has failed to cooperate fully, has intentionally given false, misleading or incomplete information or testimony...the defendant will not be released from his pleas of guilty but the Government will be released from its obligations..." his plea agreement reads.

Roger Stone is another potential target in the Mueller probe as well.

kbd512 · 2018-11-10 17:07:14

Mueller's final report should be released to the public as soon as he is ready to publish, no matter what President Trump, the Republicans, or the Democrats think of it. The American tax payer spent millions on an independent investigation and we have a right to know what our tax money purchased.

SpaceNut · 2018-11-10 19:49:52

Some more on the new AG Matthew G. Whitaker Acting AG Matthew Whitaker on advisory board of company accused of scam

Sort of sounds like a confict of interest in that Whitaker will oversee the FBI in his newly elevated role as acting attorney general. FBI's Miami office has been conducting a criminal investigation of World Patent Marketing during the period it paid Whitaker as an adviser while it allegedly scammed millions of dollars from customers

kbd512 · 2018-11-10 20:41:20

Former President Obama's AG attempted and failed to cover up his department's sale of guns to drug cartel members and was censured by Congress for lying to Congress about it. President Obama's final AG decided that she was unable to do her job as AG in determining who to prosecute, which somehow led to our FBI making a decision about whether or not to prosecute former Secretary of State Clinton for theft of classified information from the US State Department.

Whitaker is a thief. Sessions was a racist. More guilt by association?

Sessions talked to a Russian at some point in his diplomatic career, so then he needed to recuse himself from the Russia investigation, despite playing no part in President Trump's election?

Holder's Justice Department sold guns to foreign organized crime syndicates that were later used to murder some of the people in his own department.

Hillary's State Department sold our Uranium to the Russians. Hillary herself decided that classified US government property belonged to her.

Keep finger pointing. There's always three more pointed right back at the Democrats. When all these crimes finally bite the Democrats in their collective rear ends, the result won't be very pretty. I guess the Democrats have run out of partisan talking points accepted by the American people and legitimate grievances with the current administration. Accusations without evidence are now the order of the day.

SpaceNut · 2018-11-12 10:20:47

So when does a president take ownership of current actions and status for what he has done versus others still laying the blame game on the past?

Mueller Doesn’t Have to Indict Trump for Congress to Impeach Him

SpaceNut · 2018-11-12 18:46:41

What Trump's attorney general shortlisters have said on the Russia probe

'We could subpoena Mueller' if the administration restricts Russia investigation: Incoming House Judiciary chairman

kbd512 · 2018-11-12 19:09:34

SpaceNut,

President Trump hasn't colluded with Russia. The only collusion with Russia was between the Democrats' underlings in the Obama Administration who broke multiple federal laws filing false affidavits before a FISA court judge using lies that the Clinton campaign paid Fusion GPS to concoct. If that's not crystal clear by now, then I'm sorry that reality is so difficult to accept. It must be exasperating to support the Democrat Party when it does those sorts of things, unless you also think the ends justify the means.

SpaceNut · 2018-11-18 21:19:12

Mueller was quiet through the mid term elections as to not being said to have swayed any results. While it was quiet the actions seem to have been fruitful in indictments of course the leak of these have occurred under the Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitake. There are dozens of sealed criminal indictments on the DC docket. Are they from Mueller?

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