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#76 2020-12-10 19:00:32

tahanson43206
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Re: The Outer Space Treaty

For SpaceNut .... if you have time, please check my investigation of this topic ...

According to Wikipedia, mainland China has NOT signed the treaty, nor has it Ratified the treaty.

I suspect that China is in the interesting position of being free to do whatever it wants on the Moon, Mars or anywhere else.

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#77 2021-05-22 13:30:09

Mars_B4_Moon
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Re: The Outer Space Treaty

NASA Boss Bill Nelson Says China 'Aggressive Competitor' After Mars Landing
https://www.newsweek.com/nasa-bill-nels … ng-1593241

Also there is a Moon Treaty...the space review website once asked, a failed international law or waiting in the shadows?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_Treaty

' As of January 2019, 18 states are parties to the treaty '
signatories also from France and India

In 2020, U.S. President Donald Trump signed an executive order called "Encouraging International Support for the Recovery and Use of Space Resources." The order emphasizes that "the United States does not view outer space as a 'global commons" and calls the Moon Agreement a "a failed attempt at constraining free enterprise."

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#78 2021-05-22 14:49:44

louis
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Re: The Outer Space Treaty

The question I ask is: "do we want the Moon to be illuminated with a sign saying Cocal Cola"? The vast majority of humanity would answer no, I believe.

While I have no animus against Trump I think there does have to be some restraint on "free enterprise" otherwise it can interfere with our freedoms (as we see now with Big Tech censorship of perfectly acceptable views). As I recall the Moon Treaty was pretty rubbish but I believe, given its proximity to Earth and its cultural significance in every society it does need protecting.




Mars_B4_Moon wrote:

NASA Boss Bill Nelson Says China 'Aggressive Competitor' After Mars Landing
https://www.newsweek.com/nasa-bill-nels … ng-1593241

Also there is a Moon Treaty...the space review website once asked, a failed international law or waiting in the shadows?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_Treaty

' As of January 2019, 18 states are parties to the treaty '
signatories also from France and India

In 2020, U.S. President Donald Trump signed an executive order called "Encouraging International Support for the Recovery and Use of Space Resources." The order emphasizes that "the United States does not view outer space as a 'global commons" and calls the Moon Agreement a "a failed attempt at constraining free enterprise."

Last edited by louis (2021-05-22 14:59:14)


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#79 2021-05-22 16:40:10

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Re: The Outer Space Treaty

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/pr … resources/

The arguement that what you mine is yours but you should not take the last shovel full as then the celestal body is gone problem...
Fine but you must use it there and not bring it anywhere...

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#80 2021-05-22 17:39:19

louis
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Re: The Outer Space Treaty

My attitude to the Moon is very different from that towards Mars or indeed the asteroids.

I think the Moon needs quite heavy protection, similar to the Antarctic Treaty. I think mining activities on the Moon would need to be carefully regulated. Likewise we need to preserve the landing sites for US, Russian and other missions. We need to protect the appearance of the Moon as well, given its cultural significance. There's probably a strong argument for locating any urban development on the Far Side of the Moon and ensuring lighting on the Moon is never visible from Earth.

Exploitation of asteroids is fine in my book.

Mars, I want to see turned into a sovereign planetary republic as soon as possible which can then look after itself. 

SpaceNut wrote:

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/pr … resources/

The arguement that what you mine is yours but you should not take the last shovel full as then the celestal body is gone problem...
Fine but you must use it there and not bring it anywhere...


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