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As I have said before. Canada doesn't want to fight. Canada and the US are brothers. We may have disagreements, our countries may argue like brothers, but in the end we are brothers. Immediately after 9/11, Canada sent JTF2 into Afghanistan. JTF2 is Canada's most elite army unit; more elite than the US army Delta Force, second only to US Navy Seals. When aircraft were required to land quickly after skies were closed, Canada welcomed US travellers. The small town of Gander is the farthest east of any airport in North America, the last point before crossing the Atlantic ocean. Several US planes landed there. More passengers than all hotels could accommodate. So Canadian citizens allowed travellers to stay in their homes. Treated them as house guests. America aircraft landed in other locations across Canada, but large cities were better able to accommodate travellers. When hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, the only country to provide aid was Canada. Canada sent navy ships, used helicopters to rescue people off the roof of their houses. Provided fresh drinking water, and even rations.
Our countries are brothers. Why does Donald Trump want to start a fight with Canada? It's stupid.
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I the points I might make are relatively trivial.
In !812, there was no Canada. And yes to some degree Americans were backwoods hillbillies. To attack though forests, maintaining supply lines gave the "Home Team Advantage" to the North American members of the "British Empire. And yes the Europeans were most likely much more sophisticated in the arts of war. They loved to practice at it all the time.
American Elites that had moved to the northern colonies after the war of independence had grudges and probably were tending to be the elites that had reasons to be loyal to the empire. It is not surprising that they anticipated American expansionism, and prepared for it.
In my mention of 1812, and invasions of Quebec that sort of thing, I was giving a handwave to the relatively minor scuffles' that were not that much like major European wars. I did indicate that we American children were not informed in school about the European plots to reconquest North America, which centered around the Civil War and France in Mexico. That I figured out myself. Usually the French and British were in competition with each other, but in this case they came very close to shattering the Union, and if they had, they likely could have come into a much more dominant position in North America.
And that answers why America had a compulsion to move to the West Coast. They understood that if they did not occupy those lands then European Empires would and so then the Republic would probably be strangled in the end.
So that is where the Amerindians come in. Periodically the European empires used them to press against Americans. Buth before independence and after it. And I read that that was a very big factor in the war of 1812, and that the Amerindians lost big because of that war.
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The War of 1812 was a military conflict between the United States and Great Britain, fought from 1812 to 1815, driven by trade restrictions, impressment of American sailors, and territorial ambitions.
Causes of the War
The War of 1812 arose from multiple factors. The United States opposed British restrictions on trade with Napoleonic France and the Royal Navy’s impressment of American sailors, including those considered U.S. citizens, which violated American sovereignty and national honor
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. Tensions were further fueled by British support for Indigenous tribes resisting American expansion in the Northwest Territory, and some Americans sought to annex parts of Canada
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. Political divisions in the U.S. were stark, with the Democratic-Republican Party supporting war and the Federalists opposing it
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.Major Theaters and Battles
The war was fought on land and at sea across North America. The U.S. launched repeated invasions of Upper and Lower Canada, all largely unsuccessful
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. Key battles included the Battle of Tippecanoe, the burning of Washington, D.C., and the defense of Baltimore, which inspired the U.S. national anthem
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. Naval engagements, such as the clash between USS Chesapeake and HMS Shannon, showcased American naval skill despite British naval superiority
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. Indigenous allies, including Tecumseh’s confederacy, played a significant role in defending British interests in Canada
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.Outcomes and Treaty
The war ended with the Treaty of Ghent in December 1814, ratified by the U.S. Congress on February 17, 1815, restoring prewar boundaries without addressing all maritime issues
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. While the United States suffered defeats, it successfully repelled British invasions in New York, Baltimore, and New Orleans, fostering national pride and a sense of independence
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. In Canada, the war strengthened a growing national identity, emphasizing civilian and militia contributions to defense
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. Indigenous allies, however, faced devastating losses, including the death of Tecumseh and the erosion of their territorial claims
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.Historical Significance
The War of 1812 is often called the “Second War of Independence” for the United States, reinforcing sovereignty and national confidence
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. It also marked the decline of the Federalist Party in the U.S. and encouraged westward expansion. For Canada, the war contributed to a sense of unity and identity, while Indigenous nations suffered long-term setbacks in resisting American expansion
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. The conflict also highlighted the global context of the Napoleonic Wars, as British priorities in Europe influenced their North American strategy
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The empire resisted American expansion to the Pacific. As I recall a Canadian ruler of some sort arranged to kill as many beavers in the west as possible to to keep American fur traders out.
But we can say that in actuality, America won the prize of most of the better lands in the west and midwest.
As I recall the "Prairies" of the three provinces were part of the Louisiana Purchase. They were ceded in exchange for the North East portion of Minnesota and to allow the drawing of that strait line that Orange Man does not like.
And so now we see what happens next. Probably lots of silly noise that history will forget. We will see if the Romanoids of East Canada, can maintain imperial heights above the Russianoid West of Canada.
If you go American mode, you might pull it off, but you have to make power sacrifices to attain that.
If you go European Mode, I anticipate that you will fail, and there will be fracturing.
Our main interest is in managing whichever situation emerges.
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Be careful what you wish for.
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