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#26 2004-04-05 09:33:45

clark
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Re: Another wacky idea

But Bill, again, how do you prime the pump? How do you get Russia, or whoever else, to invest in a Manned Mission to Mars, with nothing more than a promise to be paid at the end?

Someone still has to pay the upfront costs, which this plan does nothing to reduce. I admit, selling broadcast rights can generate the funds for the pay-out, but not for the actual mission.

Wouldn't those who don't have a stake in this project (all media companies that don't get televise) try to kill it? CBS can't get the rights, so they make sure ABC dosen't have anything to air...

I agree that the media who have the rights will have a vested interest in pushing space on the public, but the opposite is true for those without the same broadcast rights.

And wouldn't the half-life on this plan be rather small? Look how well Apollo ended up playing near the end of it's lifetime. Look how well ISS plays in the general public now. Sure, make a buck on the first mission, but how do you get the follow ons? How do you keep the brand alive to reap more profits?

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#27 2004-04-09 10:28:19

Bill White
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Re: Another wacky idea

Hello!  big_smile

Read [http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?prd_id … do_alert=0]this link and [http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s … ussia_mars]this link.

Whoa! I hadn't really been too serious. . .

MOSCOW - A group of Russian space experts on Friday announced an ambitious plan to send a six-man crew to Mars within a decade, a project it said would cost only $3.5 billion. Russian space officials dismissed the project as nonsense.

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#28 2004-04-09 10:47:59

clark
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Re: Another wacky idea

Have another drink, comrade.  :laugh:

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#29 2004-04-10 03:56:02

bolbuyk
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Re: Another wacky idea

Russians to Mars?

In the book 'Race to Mars' (Frank Miles ao 1988) a drawing is presented with a Sowjet-Sprint-mission, using only 4 Energia's, 2 Proton rockets, a Soyuz to mann the vehicle, a Mir-like habitat and a Mars-excursion-moodule. I think, if they would they had been landed some years ago. But the Berlin wall broke down.

NASA and ESA are worrying about HLLV, cheap transport of astronauts and also more or less about space-stations. Russia has it all.

Maybe something is an little optimistic, but the Energia is really nice!

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#30 2004-04-10 09:17:15

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Re: Another wacky idea

Have another drink, comrade.  :laugh:

What the heck does that mean--good, bad or indiferent?

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#31 2004-04-10 09:29:56

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One problem with the idea that one or more rich people should be smart enough to make a profit off of a trip to Mars is that such people are also smart enough to make a helluva lot more profit doing something else with their money! People have to have an emotional reason to commit the money because reason isn't enough. They have to want to go down in history in a cerain way, to establish a religious or ideological utopia there, or they just have to be a bit crazy.

What we need, dear friends, are super-villains! Muahahaha!

The name Osama comes to mind. . . .

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#32 2004-04-11 02:50:56

Mundaka
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Re: Another wacky idea

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Macte nova virtute, sic itur ad astra

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