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I have to agree with Chazbro. There is no way current technology could be effectively used in space applications to achieve a rapid high payload transport system. All his arguments very clearly point to this conclusion.

The more energy a system puts out the larger it is given the same level of technology. But even technology has its limit based on material physics. This is basic chemistry GCNR, why can't you understand this?

So... what has the ISA achieved in.... 23 years of existence? Treaties with any countries? Secured sources of funding? Put together an elegant set of glossies? That website looks like something put together in a hurry overnight to get some sort of web presence up. 23 years should give you something more fun than that.

Couldn't it simply be a metal tube, say 100 metres long? With a plastic tube  running inside. If you kept the outer surface circular, to match the diameter of the hole then it could be easily removed when cold for replacement.

And you might not need to shut it down, just slow it down at night. You might need to reclaim heat at night depending on how finely balanced the heat situation is.

You also probably prefer that other behaved in alike manner and not like right idiots.

The book of Judges records the Isreali experiment with such self-government. Leaders were not elected, they were naturally charasmatic people who just got followed. The book records that 'Everyone did what was right in their own eyes'.  Which is not so bad, until you consider that right in your eyes may be helpin g the pretty lady understand that she really didn't mean no.

Oh and they kept getting invaded.

You sound like Dueteronomy. Except they figure you violated your right to life.

I have a lot of spare time, or rather single minded determination, so as soon as I figure out where the wiki is I will happily trawl through all the really ancient topics.

Alternativley I could start a thread of 'recyled wiki entries' and somebody else can put them in. I do wish Astronautix was on a wiki we could flog. Save a lot of time that would.

Also we need a biography section to seperate people from their main works. Like Zubrin should have his birthday, pioneered mars direct(link), founded the mars society(link), co-founder pioneer-rocketplane(link).

BTW. who is Ray Bradbury? Is he like KSR or Clarke?

At an academy in Texas, I bunked with five guys in a room slightly bigger than that description for a year. The bunks are stacked three high and are end-end. They pick people to deliberatley clash with your personality. We all graduated friends though, so I also don't buy into the psychology showstopper story.

Its always other people who notice you're insane. You seldom ever know.

Yes but think of the neat propulsion systems we will develop in order to launch attacks in a timely fashion.

Well now is the time to open the whole can of worms to find out what other technical issues have been swept under the rug. If we can't five them in the next five years then we need to have them clearly identified so the don't plauge the CEV, or even the SDV.

And how come none of the SSME's have ever exploded? I thought they were supposed to be time bombs?!?

The ISS has a life boat. Or it is meant to. Man the ISS suxor.

What would a carbon fiber lamination of the Tank cost? (weight wise... you could build it out of Gold cheaper, but it would be to heavy...)

Such a lamination would allow you to cheap out on internal load carrying structure wouldn't it? To stop foam it would only need to be a single layer, but you could go to sandwhich construction with carbon foam coating and a chewy lithium alloy centre and maybe not gain any weight? Better than being really careful about spraying the foam.