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http://www.physorg.com/news7286.html
it doesn't even mention what the other concepts they are working on!
http://www.nature.com/index.html
China's second flight sticks on "Nature's" front page ever three days after launch!
it's amazing how much care the chinese put into securing the safety of their spacemen(spacewomen soon?), but they deprive their people and beat them for looking at books!
I went out the other night just to hope for a chance at seeing shenzu; i've seen so many satelites going by just going out randomly; i'm sure plenty of people here have seen satelites sneakilly moving across the nightsky. Me and my father are looking to check out Mars this weekend; i'm sure we'll look to find shenzu as well!
. . . instead of six hundred for the original roman empire. Granted it may take awhile for this trantor(america) to fall yet, but then again, with all the oil dependence problems, the crappy roman politicians on capital hill, this roman empire may fall far faster and harder than the original!
http://www.physorg.com/news7234.html
I know america the great and all, but I've learned little patience for a country ruins(and yes america did ruin its chances) to get established in space, and I would say quite probably because of wrong attitudes not allowed truth to come out.
i remember reading a comment from some chinese guy that this launch tests just about everything for the chinese space program; hence, once they have all systems tested, they may put their space program into a higher gear . . .
maybe I'm not watching the news channels enough, but they certainly are putting the latest mugging and killing news ahead of the Shenzue launch.
Well, I'm sure the U.S. government is taking note though!
Just curious on what combining Bigalow's inflatables with Mars Direct would do to the overall mission costs; anybody have any ideas?
I came up with the idea when trying to see if we could launch Mars Direct on the Falcon rockets; i read the conversion charts from tons to kilograms as one to ~900 and came with 36000 kilogram rocket payload; out of the range for current Falcon rockets, but what if we find a way to reduce the mass . . . ?
I think I brought this up before, but nobody could make much sense of it, but anyways, I was just finishing rereading Zubrin's moon and mars chapters in his 'Entering Space.', and i find it hard to believe a government is going to fund the creation of a new independent country while it(the original funding country) gets turned into the third world country down here on earth; i guess you could sell the mars direct program as an exotic 'get away' program from the growing chaos down here on earth.
But, it seems to me that unless you can find a way of doing this privately, your not likely going to entice some country to set up another one at its expence and demise.
i like the plan because it secures the space industries(what some people call pork around here as far as I can tell) and establishes a moon base in due time. It also helps develop a rocket economy even more which is prerequisite for a space elevator even when those are built.
I also like the plan because it takes what worked and tries to improve upon it with new technologies, and the private space industries are coming around(I'm talking about Bigalow and the Falcon rockets). Also, watch out for the developing nanotech economy to help out in due time as well.
Overall, when in 2030, the worlds economies are humming to the tune of a nanotech/aerospace economy, humanity will be well on its way, especially, when they get nuclear power going on up out in space.
I like the way things are going; President Bush Jr can do something right! Also, I wrote that guy about getting rid of the space shuttle and building a manned capsule that can go to the moon and back on top of a regular rocket, and if you need to put up some space-station elements, better to do it separatelly from a rocket and leave those components up in orbit just like the space pioneers pointed out. I know who I'm investing in!
With every catastrophe and political competition from others, this space plan will get pushed through; i wouldn't be surprised if we get there before 2018 and have a moon base going before 2020! > by either america or somebody else!
http://e-math.ams.org/bookstore/videos
obviously, i could blow a lot of money on all those video's! But, there's a couple there I can have some fun with; i think the Sanders MacLance one on algebra would be an interesting one for me certainly and maybe the L'Hospital indeterminate forms way down befow!
Between the Mechanical Universe video's and these, i could go bankrupt fast!
you know, i just checked out space.com to see if there is anything more of interest(sometimes they do have interesting things, other times . . . well!), and one guy points out the civil war about to erupt in Iraq, and another guy gives some conservative slant and says the other guy isn't facing facts. I've already shown how you guy's(gals?) have thought non-scientifically, what do you do? You play your social games.
Perhaps another example is better. In 1490 or so, the Portuguese supported an exploration to find another way to the orient to gain an empire; they almost did; actually, the Spanish ended up winning, at least for a century; why a century? Because they ended up waisting all the wealth they gained from their explorations of the America's on petty wars at home. The fact is change happens in human societies because a new generation is born every fifteen to twenty years and 99% of them are to shortsighted to see what the logical and factual thing to do is, so they are really like ants in solving their problems. Today, we think that we think scientifically about solving our problems, but if that was the case, we would have colonized space by now by those who actually thought about things(the original rocket pioneers). This is what happens when you just follow whatever the incrowd says.
where do I even begin? Maybe, if you hear a guy hate somebody for their color, what do you do?
I've made the case which was not shot down before about how people just believe what the social group says and believe in what social group they have been brought into because otherwise they don't get the support the social group gives them, so whatever the social group says is truth - not truth itself.
C.C. had already cancelled himself from being credible when he made the assumption months ago that my pointing out the irrationality of religion is the source or our problems by saying to the effect of ' not by taking them out. ' That is an assumption and clearly indicative of him not thinking scientifically, just whatever he's conditioned to think; that is a 'knee-jerk' reaction. You guys remind me of a friend of mine who always has little language tricks to keep from facing facts and logic - like my friends are religious, or you can't know everything; they always have these one liners which displays rushed thought. I make a question about bullies, and what is the responce? More unanalyzed conditioned thinking designed to not solve the problem but swoosh the problem under the rug. This is what allowed irrationalism spread in the Roman empire and that irrationalism eventually brought it down. These terrrorists with all their suicide bombings and now nuclear terrorism is 'clearly' supernatural religions inspired, and I've already made threads along time ago about how supernatural religions are organized irrationality, but nobody wanted to actually face the facts; instead, they just give off these vague talk to shut up the conversation.
As the movie 'Copland' said, "I've already given your chance to play cop, and you blew it!"
Bye bye america and quite possibly the human species - the real answer to the Fermi question!
A kid gets bullied on campus, you tell the kid what?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic … E_ID=45203
it is amazing to me; these people are willing to learn so much science, yet they keep believing in their stupid religion just like so many here on these messageboards; maybe you all deserve to die.
latest space elevator article by Mr Edwards himself.
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/pu … 5spac.html
Sounds like a hell of a project and lots can happen between now and the beginning effots just to build it.
The facilities involved even on earth are amazing in themselves. If this ever gets built, humanity will be more connected to one another than ever before. I'm having visions of either the Roman aqueducts feeding millions of romans from a few agricultural fields being fed by the aqueducts to Asimov's foundation novels where he mentions some new 'crazy' technological breakthrough but the 'Roman empire' falls before or shortly after they implement the hugh elaborate system(in the Foundation case it was these anti-gravity elevators on Trantor). Maybe like seeing the size of this project in perspective or seeing how small our earth is compared to the solar system much less the rest of the astronomical structures of the universe, we have to realize that the building of a space elevator will connect all of humanities fate so highly, that what was once viewed as a war is now just like white blood cells taking out bad bacteria; we just have to realize it is part of the dynamics of human civilization to see a group of nations(usually the most powerfull ones at the time) taking out a country we(or they) set up themselves(Suddam Huissaine) but went bad(cancer).
yes, this stuff can be used for more than just a space-elevator(with more development), but far better space rockets! Just wait till the space tourism industry gets going and gets their hands on this stuff!
people are not interested in questioning and facing facts - just say whatever their social group says; since specialization of jobs due to agriculture, or civilization ten thousand years ago arose, we have lots of different social groups(some bigger than others); so, we are fragmented!
yes, if anything, this is just a symbol of the progress made . . . they'll just keep making observations and experiments and will probably find a way to get those nanotubes inline or stuck together.
like it or hate it(the space shuttle), it is a pretty spacecraft and it is exciting to watch it liftoff.
The channels on mars may have been carved by liquids other than water as on earth; mars was never warm enough for liquid water.
Does this mean no life on mars? An interesting question we could only find out by going there I suspect.
At least for the next two years!
I actually thought of this awhile back, but maybe it just didn't sound practical at the time; to scrub off speed so that your entering the atmosphere at the demonstrated entry speed Rutan has shown is possible, we could use nuclear energy.
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/energy-t … 5zzzu.html
The above link is the confirming experiment for sonoluminescent fusion; the funding there will certainly go through the roof in the coming years.
consider this; who's going to pay for a few other guys to go storming the heavens while everybody else stays here on earth to sweat and moan?
o.k. another way of putting this without even bringing up the space colonization issue is that the second law of thermodynamics is going to bite technological civilization in the ass sooner or later if we don't explore; but, if we don't have it in us socially as a society to go exploring, then we won't.