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The simulations show that if a planet with atmosphere is tidaly locked around a star, than its air currants will be sufficient to balance the average temperatures on the night and the day side. Plant life off cource could be groun only on the day side (not all of it) and along the twighlight zone, if artificial diurnal cycle is not induced by mirrors. On Venus not only the thick atmosphere equalizes the day-night and pollar-equatorial temperatures -- the specific weather system balances the big differences out also, as proposed for Mercury, by David Semloh, from the quote above.

But, to stop the spin of Mercury is simply ineconomical.

The planet closest to the sun is Mercury, and it is the fourth world to be terraformed. Unlike those previous, however, its surface is not inhabitable. Rather, while the surface of Mercury is bleak and lifeless - baked on one side by the sun, cold and dead on the other - it has shielded starports located along the Terminator Line between "dayside" and "nightside", which provide access to a vast underground network known as the Webway, which connects artificial subterranean biospheres known as Underworlds.

Mercury is the domain of Mishima, and its insular nature means that others have had very little success in encroaching upon its domain. The largest Underworld - and the base of Mishima's operations - is Longshore, Mishima's primary starport. Longshore is a vast cavern with the Underground Ocean on its floor, and includes several islands that lie beneath an artificial sky. The central island, also known as Longshore, is located underneath a crater that provides an opening to space, shielded by an ancient wonder of technology known as the Celestial Shield - a plastic dome that keeps air in and radiation out, but which allows starships to pass through, and then knits itself back together once they have passed. Although Mishima is not on the best of terms with the Brotherhood, the Longshore Cathedral can be found here, the Brotherhood's only base of operations on Mercury.

The other major starport is Fukido, which is basically the Mercurian equivalent to Hong Kong in some respects. Due to a bit of a bungle on the part of the Mishimans, Imperial managed to secure a lease to 99% of the properties in Fukido, which is located directly opposite Longshore. The lease only lasts for 99 years, and is bound to expire in a few years, but Imperial has operated it as a nearly anarchistic capitalistic free enterprise city, and various entrepreneurs have flocked here despite the lack of long term security, and the ever present danger that Lord Moya (the Mishiman Lord Heir that oversees Mishima) might just get fed up with Imperial's antics, break the agreement, and drive the foreigners out of the city.

Although Longshore is Mishima's largest city, its official capitol is Yamato, located in yet another, less accessible underworld, though not far from Longshore underneath the surface.

Slightly off-topic. I would go to live on Mars if given a chance - I only have one concern - what if some idiot decides to violently take power on Mars and turn everyone into slaves or similar. Even volunteers that go to Mars could be crazy, you never know. The human factor bothers me more than the natural difficulties. The police should be created in the very first steps of the colonization.

You mean if NASA would send 50 astronauts and one starts a martian cult to which 25 of the others join. Now they don't want to go back to Earth and don't take orders anymore from Earth.

Well that could be a problem . Houston we have a problem.

Hey didn't the US start this way? Didn't they show the middle finger to the British?

Don't get me wrong I'm interested in Mars too, but without getting control over the U.S. Government or some other major government, what your talking about doing is impossible.

On another forum I was suggesting that we build a city on Mars and do it in a forty to fifty year time frame, but it was based on having a Pro-Space President like Kennedy. It was based on Federalizing the Federal Reserve, re-arranging the tax code, have a government rite off system for private enterprises and massive government built structures and creating a Constitutional Martian Government of self rule. Any body that thinks they can do it without a major government backing them up is sadly mistaken.

Go to the web site below for more information and read it closely. If you really understand what he saying, then you will understand that without a major government backing this up, it not going to happen.

http://www.transhumanist.com/volume4/sp … /space.htm

Your talking about doing something that even the U.S. Government can’t do in it present form. So one of those other people on the forum said to me on that other Space forum, your talking about trillions of dollars to build that Mars City. And I said your right, it is going to cost trillion of dollars, that why only the government can do it.

That why you hear so many people that talk about private enterprise in space and about how good it would be and they have these Grandiose Plans of building hotel, generating power, mining, etc, don’t do any thing, they can’t fund it. That why the U.S. Government through NASA could go to the moon, but thirty years later, private enterprise hasn’t copied it. That why any serious private space venture is either a communication satellite or a NASA Contract that some private business got.

I'm sorry it that way, but it is that way and we can not change the rule to suit you because want to chang the rules.

Larry,

I was just curious what people thought should be the Official Language on Mars. If the, no offence, Americans get there way we'll all be speaking English. But English is a very poor language with very little structure.
So shouldn't Mars have the perfect language? I say Yes.
And the language I came up with is Italian. Italian is simple to learn for most people in the G7 nations. Also it has a good few grammar rules, not to may though, and are kept to 99% of the time, unlike English. Also it is the closest modern Language to Latin, which most Martian Nomenculture is in. But the reason Latin would not be suitable would be it is missing to many words needed in the modern World. Correct?
Tell me what you think? Is there another language you think is Best (more perfect so please no one who says everyone should speak English, cause most already do....loads speak Spanish and that is just as bad as English).
btw I am not Italian.

Also, Italian is only spoken by 80 million people so it will put (more-or-less) everyone in the same boat - everyone will be  on level pegging, no one will have language advantage in either way;
a) by not having to learn a language
b) or by having a second, private language.

Everyone will have a new language and an old.
This would be best right?

Also, anyone know any Italian Names for Martian Nomenculture...I am curious.]
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Anatoli, you are so right about the 5-second space-news slot at the end of the news.
    I estimate there are about 8-10 minutes of national and international news (Forget the international news if an Aussie football player has stubbed his toe and will miss an important match on the weekend! Forget the national news too if an Aussie cricketer has been caught cheating on his wife! ), followed by commercials, followed by 8-10 minutes of sport (even if the first 8-10 minutes have been all football and cricket anyway! ), followed by commercials, followed by the weather.
    Then comes the light-hearted stuff in the dying seconds. An old-age pensioner accidentally hit the accelerator instead of the brake in his driveway and drove into the neighbour's ornamental fish pond ... fortunately nobody got hurt (chuckle, chuckle, titter, titter)! And President Bush said America should return to the Moon by 2020, and go on to Mars. ["Well, there's no green cheese on the Moon ... time to go check for little green men on Mars." - (condescending smiles and more tittering as the signature music strikes up and we fade to yet more commercials! )]

    As I think I've said before, it's as though there's no universe above their heads; the world stops at the cruising altitude of a 747 - or at the local football ground for some of them!
    To describe these people as parochial simpletons is an insult to parochial simpletons in my view!!!
                                                 :angry:

[Sorry. I guess I'm just in a frustrated mood tonight. I'll probably feel better after dinner!     ]

Paraterraforming is just other way to keep and regulate atmosphere. There are designs with equal value for Mercury without the necessity of roofing the world. Matter of money and aesthetics.

There is big difference between building flimsy parasols and soletas and huge, robust, massive rotating structures. The first thing is far easier. They are easier maintainable and replaceble.

http://www.spaceweather.com/venustransi … nd1.jpg]My favorite pic so far

*Looking through those hazy cloud bands, Sol looks like a cross between Jupiter and Saturn with one of its moons passing in front.  Love those oranges and yellows.  Really a striking pic. 

--Cindy

There's a moving (time-lapse) pic as well (as the Sun is setting), from Hong Kong -- via the link in my 1st post. 

My region missed out on the transit entirely <pout>.  But these glorious pics are making up for it!! 

I think if you really to make more people interested in space you must build orbiting hotels in space. Where you can go for $10.000 a week.