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#51 Re: Interplanetary transportation » What Has Been the Largest & Heaviest Shuttle Payloads Flown? » 2007-10-17 02:34:44

STS-75 (Columbia) was one of the largest payloads, the Shuttle could have been a great thing but its payload numbers were fake because the majority of STS payload was all Shuttle. Try to compare Shuttle's payload with the lift capability of a Buran or Saturn-V, it just doesn't compare. Skylab weighed in at a very hefty 77,000 kg could a Shuttle lift ever match something like that ?

#52 Re: Human missions » International Space Station (ISS / Alpha) » 2007-10-15 05:35:54

Expedition 15/16 Flight Engineer Clayton Anderson will return to Earth from the space station aboard shuttle mission STS-120. That flight will carry his replacement, Daniel Tani, to the station. Tani will return on shuttle mission STS-122.

It's getting very busy up there, the space station may finally be starting to live up to its design. On November 2nd there will be another spacewalk, this is from Quest airlock. It will be great to see another NASA Shuttle crew onboard, looking ahead to supply ships : Russia's Progress M-62 launches in December.

#53 Re: Space Policy » Outsourcing US exploration of the Moon/Mars to foreigners. » 2007-10-15 05:15:29

Your view of Muslim terrorism, is extremely simplistic and very wrong. The Communists were fighting Muslim terrorists long before Bush 43 came along. Hundreds of US servicemen died from radical Muslims at the marine barracks and yet Reagan was indeed the fool for not responding to Iranians that attack, instead he ordered US Marines to run home with their tail between their legs. You can read his archived speeches, Reagan dropped the ball on the radical Islamic issue because he hated the Soviets more. US support for insurgents continued starting with funding from the US, shipping through Saudi and finally into the front supporting the Mujaheddin in Afghanistan. Clinton also had a bleeding heart for the Muslims, Clinton also can be blamed for not taking the threats of Islamic terrorism seriously enough and getting all cosy with Arafat at the Whitehouse. Tom do you oppose Musharraf because did you know right now he's one of the few friends the US has in the Middle East ? Musharraf is helping the US on this war on terror, unlike India (a nation described by Nixon as commie stooges). India hasn't been a great ally,  India which has contributed nothing to America's war in Iraq and India never helped with Afghanistan. There are many Hindu crazies and thier roots trace back to the partition 60 years ago. India remembers when it was all just one country. Musharraf has made mistakes but he's a key ally, he destroyed radical islamic schools and he opposes islamic extremism. Pakistan is a free nation with a pro-American leader. If he falls, then there is a chance nuclear weapons will fall into the hands of the kamikaze Islamics.

I'm no fan of Communism, I think its got a terrible record on freedom and its a deeply flawed political system - but Reagan supporting Islamics against the commies was a mistake, Clinton also dropped the ball.

and Tom I've seen some of your posts and some of them are really rightwing or biased, your negative attitude is very often irrational
I think you might put into your signature "I hate the Russian race and I hate commies" Practicing racism is however unacceptable and generally against the law.

-> Back to this outsourcing business, I think NASA will try to avoid it but if the missions get too costly there's nothing NASA can do to prevent it from happening. If it can't be homegrown and NASA wants to cut costs then contracts will go to Europe, India, Russia...wherever. With Shuttle soon retiring NASA may have to rely solely on Russian ships, effectively having to buy trips into space. Did you know that one of the reasons the Lockheed Martin Atlas rockets are flying so well is the rocket uses the RD180 design made by some commie Ukrainians and Russians.

#54 Re: Space Policy » Chinese Space Program? - What if they get there first » 2007-10-15 02:24:44

Chang’e II looks like it will deploy a robotic lunar lander

I don't think the PRC could make it to Mars before the Russians or US if they tried. If they made a serious push, either NASA the ESA or both together would probly mount a crash program to get there first. China still has no manned space experience, no experience with HLV's, interplanetary probes, and very little experience in space in general. I would hate for them to go there first, have an accident, kill the crew, and discourage others from going.

If the Commies were there, I would sure bring some way for the crew to defend themselves to Mars, you could never be sure they wouldn't try something if it hit the fan. "Our reactor failed, we're taking yours"

Have you looked at the latest GDP figures for China? Its now $8 trillion compared to $12.5 trillion for the United States. Seems to me that if this trend continues, China will overtake the USA as the largest Superpower sometime in the second decade of the 21st century. Worst of all, do you want some Dictator taking the position as the top Dog in the Chinese Century? What will happen to the free world in that case. I think we should take the opportunity and grab hold of Mars while we are still ahead. Once China passes us, there is no catching back  up. We have a window of opportunitystretching from now until 2020, if we pass it up and find, "better things to spend our money on", then China will dominate space for the next century, we'll all have to learn that very difficult language of Chinese and their thousand character alphabet and learn how to bow to their communist emperor. I think we should try to break out into space and leave our mark on human history before the World becomes part of the Chinese Empire.

How China Negotiates With Kidnappers
http://www.rense.com/general78/howchina.htm

The National party congress is going on now in China

I wonder if space exploration will be mentioned ?

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007- … 884411.htm

#56 Re: Unmanned probes » Cassini-Huygens - NASA/ESA Saturn orbiter & Titan lander » 2007-10-14 00:13:29

Drizzly Mornings On Xanadu
http://www.saturndaily.com/reports/Driz … u_999.html
Noted for its bizarre hydrocarbon lakes and frozen methane clouds, Saturn's largest moon, Titan, also appears to have widespread drizzles of methane, according to a team of astronomers at the University of California, Berkeley. New near-infrared images from ESO's Very Large Telescope (VLT) in Chile and the W. M. Keck Observatory in Hawaii show for the first time a nearly global cloud cover at high elevations and, dreary as it may seem, a widespread and persistent morning drizzle of methane over the western foothills of Titan's major continent, Xanadu.

In most of the Keck and VLT images, liquid methane clouds and drizzle appear at the morning edge of Titan, the arc of the moon that has just rotated into the light of the sun...

#58 Re: Space Policy » Space fairing Nations - The ever changing view » 2007-10-13 05:56:53

Sputnik and Arirang

Ko San, a 31-year-old computer scientist, is to be Korea’s first astronaut when he boards Russia’s Soyuz

#59 Re: Human missions » International Space Station (ISS / Alpha) » 2007-10-13 04:44:17

Peggy Whitson has a well established career and she's already taken part in a six-month duration flight onboard the Station. In October 24th we will see two female mission commanders in orbit as STS-120 joins the crew. Yuri Malenchenko is a real veteran cosmonaut with lots of experience from his stays on the MIR station, he's done joint US-Russian Shutte flights and done the ISS. Happy to see Malaysia getting into space, the more nations that join the club the better. I wonder who will be the next country in space, this 'Tourism' thing has really kicked off

#60 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Next Launch / Event » 2007-10-10 08:09:34

BBC : A Russian spacecraft heading to the International Space Station (ISS) has blasted off from Baikonur, Kazakhstan.

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21220392/]MSNBC Russian rocket heads to space station
Crew includes Malaysia's first astronaut Sheikh Muszaphar [/url]

#62 Re: Interplanetary transportation » ATV as a tug » 2007-10-09 22:52:45

Jules Verne dry cargo prepared in Turin

8 October 2007
Around 180 kg of dry cargo which is to be carried into space on board Jules Verne, the first Automated Transfer Vehicle, is currently undergoing final preparation in Turin, Italy, ahead of shipment to the launch site in Kourou, French Guiana.

#63 Re: Human missions » Mars 500 - simulated Mission » 2007-10-09 22:50:56

Preparing for Mars500 - a simulated mission to Mars
Vodcast | Download
http://www.esa.int/esaHS/SEMPYA7H07F_index_0.html

2 October 2007

Within the Institute of Biomedical Problems, part of the Russian Academy of Sciences, engineers and scientists are completing the construction of a mock-up spaceship which will simulate a voyage to Mars.

The project, called Mars500, due to start in 2008 will recreate all the phases of a mission to Mars. Six volunteers will remain confined in six modules of a mock-up ground-based spaceship: living quarters with individual cabins, an exercise room and storage area for food and supplies, a bio-medical and laboratory area and one recreating the Martian surface. The simulation will also focus on psychological aspects of such a long-duration confinement.

#65 Re: Space Policy » Outsourcing US exploration of the Moon/Mars to foreigners. » 2007-10-09 01:50:04

That whole India thing was about George Walker Bush courting India, it was carrot-and-stick style politics. The courting, sending Griffin over, siging the reactor deals etc was done particularly in relation to them signing that Non-Proliferation thing. However the Donkey Ate the Carrot lol and the NPT is dead now. roll India is still committed to buying fuel from Tehran and it may not be long before the Iranians test a Nuke like the N.Koreans did.

#67 Re: Unmanned probes » Dawn - Vesta & Ceres orbiter » 2007-10-07 21:33:59

1) Mars fly-by happens a month earlier.  I don't suppose anyone knows yet if Dawn has a science campaign for Mars?

I haven't heard anything, but I assume it will take a few Snapshots to calibrate during the fly by like the Mariners or Rosetta did. A few snapshots are going to add much about our understanding of Mars because it has many orbiters already mapping the surface.

#68 Re: Unmanned probes » Mars Science Laboratory (MSL) - rover » 2007-10-07 21:27:09

[color=#000000]There a recent report in Space.com suggesting that the MSL may be pushed back to 2011.

I've heard they started cost cutting ( Mardi, ChemCam) so the mission still does fly in '09 schedule

#69 Re: Unmanned probes » Herschel - ESA Infrared Observatory » 2007-10-07 21:19:53

Biggest Space Telescope Yet On Display in Europe
http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2007 … ace-t.html
The European Space Agency offered a  preview look Thursday at its powerful Herschel, which, when launched next year, will be the largest space telescope yet put into orbit.

#71 Re: Unmanned probes » Chang'e - CNSA lunar orbiter » 2007-10-07 21:13:27

Asia nations race to the moon
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/n … nrace.html




Nuclear-powered lunar rover
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/03/chin … nar-rover/

Perhaps the most interesting part of this design is its dual-mode power system, which consists of the standard solar cell array as well as a nuclear power source, allowing the rover to operate continuously and in areas that go long periods without sunlight. No word yet on when exactly the Chinese will pick the winning rover, but expect whichever model emerges victorious to head skyward sometime in 2012.

#72 Re: Space Policy » July 20th, 2009 Should Be Our Goal » 2007-10-07 04:51:52

The United States President warned he would veto the $1 billion appropriations added  to NASA’s budget. With a “Democrat” Congress, GW has finally decided to cut down on any tax cuts and any unnecessary spending, something been failing to do for two-thirds of his presidency.

Talk about great timing eh ?

#73 Re: Human missions » It's Official the Moon is not the Future of Colonization » 2007-10-07 04:45:53

SPUTNIK AT FIFTY I
By Giovanni Fabrizio Bignami
Published: October 3, 2007


Boarding now for Mars


It's harder to predict whether we will also have colonized the Moon. NASA has already started "Apollo on steroids," which will give us our first chance to leave Earth orbit since 1972. But many space researchers think it would be a mistake to focus our efforts on a Moon colony, delaying a vigorous start of a nuclear Martian program.

#74 Re: Human missions » Japan Eyes Future Manned Moon Base, Space Shuttle » 2007-09-30 13:24:23

Japan plans two more moon missions

Hyderabad, India (AFP) Sept 27, 2007
Japan plans to carry out two more missions to the moon and then collaborate internationally to put a man on the lunar surface, a Japanese space scientist said Thursday

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