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LO

Your sentence carries its own answer, as In Europe, as long as I know, welfare state has been built behind national taxes barreers, and with national thinking governments and industry leadership.
Now in Europe, national leaders claim they are irresponsible for main society problems, saying the answer is in Bruxelles where a "Commission" rules the Empire without having been elected by any Europe's citizen.                     
That leads to aberrations like bureaucrats which never saw a cherry tree deciding that a cherry fruit cannot be sold if its diameter is under 0.944882 Inches !
Vertical or horizontal diameter ? 

LO

Didn't California, Texas, Arizona, Nevada, Colorado and some other states belong to Mexico ?
Haven't these states a spanish name ?
These territories have been taken by force, and somehow are being reoccupied by mexican born people as an historical backlash, so, some complain they feel no more at home because they are surrounded by spanish speaking people,

So clever an attitude ! Don't you forget to spit on these US spanish named states signs.
They'd better learn spanish, (and by the way learn english too), they'll find a great litterature,
and learning a foreign language, that makes brains work and opens minds. (For some it would be a great job).
Anyways, if they don't, sons of mexican immigrants will learn english, spanish, and non spanish speaking US citizens will suffer an handicap in job seeking

LO

First of all, these TRUE democracies previously turned slavery into an industrial business, runned off colonialism quite lately, and by the 60th, some black men where still burned live in US racist southern states, right ?
Says a turkish born man to his family members, in Turkey :"France is closer to Islamic rules than Turkey is, because social safety and help to the unemployed fit better with islamic charity duty"
Did ethnic minorities in USA turned to be ennemies of USA ?
Most of the former immigrants inroot themselves in their adoption country and get quicly the same behaviour as the natives.
There is a average tendency to watch statistic curves as if the phenomenas drawed by those curves were to maintain without any feedback, what is false.
So, at middle range, natal behaviour of immigrated populations in Europe will come closer to the natives average one,
and no one can say if native Europeans will not have an increasing natality in the future.
Right now, for what I can see by myself, living in one of the Paris districts which has among the highest immigrant origins rate, Ramadan and Islam have been a discovery for the youth, and somehow a fashion, enthousiasm has already slightly shrunk since two years, and I guess that with time and routine, teens will get tired with Ramadan fasting, and if going to the mosque turns to be a duty, they could like better to spend time with friends.
I would like to remind that "judeo christian" civilisation has also relied on arab transmission of grec science, that Islam is derivated from jewish religion and Christianity, and that Jesus is among Islam prophets.
Therefore, here we fear much more to suffer from poor economics than from some kind of civilisation clash.

The veil affair, implies quite a little number of teen girls, trying to defy existing publics schools rules forbiding to wear anything else on the head than hair ribbons (for girls ??? ) and anything that claims religious beliefs. Government turned the rules into a law, this to remind that schools are places for studies, not to pray, what churches, temples and mosques are made for, and that France's laws is that faith is a private affair.
At school, pupils' education, behaviour and security are fully under scholar authorities responsability. Taking part to swimming lessons is a full citizen obligation in order to be able to rescue someone in danger, religious dresses "traditions" cannot be used as a valuable reason why to escape these lessons, rescuing anybody in danger is a higher duty than so-called religious prescriptions, french law orders to anybody to rescue anybody being in danger, not to act so is considered as a major fault, a crime, and everybody will agree that this is a fair law anywhere on the planet.
Don't you agree with that, RobS ?
Out of school, pupils act and dress the way they want, they are under their parents' responsability.
In the Universities, students, when over eighteen, are free citizens and dress the way they want.
This law had been made unavoidable by these teen girls attitude, refusing muslim clerics advisories telling them they should submit to these one century old rules, and because not any public authority can bend in front of a handfull of school age stutborn opponents.
Let me say I don't think this is led by a racist or antiethnic attitude, as public schools cantines offer substitutes for pork to jewish and muslim pupils.
This law has been supported by a majority of islam country born citizens, specially women who see in the hijab wearing by children who never even knew what Islam was before they suddenly decided to wear it, a regressive attitude and mainly a public show for an a political extremist islamic provocation. And as a result, a possible rising of french extreme right racist party.
Precision, I teach experimental sciences in many children schools, and I can tell that all the boys, inside the buildings, are naked head and hold their caps in the hand, as well as I do, this is just a polite behaviour.

LO
Told you, because of system viruses.
And maybe I could reinstall W2K because that summer I had an UpG with new motherboard and new processor;
just after reinstallation, had a virus, I thought I  just could reboot
on no failure mode and put the virus in the dustbin,
but that was a system virus, then at reboot, blackscreen.
New reformating and installation...
I didn't even knew Windows had a limited number of installations till I read these posts here,
I've a copy of a friend's original CD who bought XP Pro.
I had Millenium, but as this ware doesn't work and often frozed,
I do consider I have been somehow tricked when I bought it,
and having a full right to use a windows operating OS.
When I did work with .psd 80 Mo multicalc docs equivalent to 1 giga doc ou having a 3 hours VUE4 coulor setting and the system did froze, I was really getting mad at B.Gates

Noone's perfect
now this turned to "innate and acquired" debates

LO

Are you really sure ot that ?
Freedom isn't only to do what you want whenever you want.
Doesn't variety of things you choose to do rely on the many people working to produce your computer, your movies, the books you read, the car you drive, the TV programs you watch, the food you eat, the artwork you like, the highways you ride on  ?

Lo
There are rains on Venus indeed, but only in high altitudes,
never a drop on Venus land. Too hot

Should be huge water ice comet so that water dissolves CO2

LO

Before telling such things, U'd better take notice that world population projection by demographs has completly changed,
hardly up to more than 8 billion by 2050, and world population could decrease after 2050.
This because increasing urbanisation equalizes natality behaviour,
urban people do naturally limit the number of children to an average number of two, under the generation renewal rate.
2 children per family is under generation renewal because of accidental and disease losses.
Also take notice that Africa's population long range demographic projection has been made without AIDS devastations coming on.
Last thing, don't ever eclude burst of some pandemia...

LO

Ocean should sculpt clifts, not so easily hidden by sand dunes
is there some evidences of sea digged clifts ?