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Also, does a one day need the sun? Time was created before the sun existed. And light was created before any object that produced light (such as the sun and moon). And since God is light, the light mentioned came from Him until the objects that produced light where created. And since anything that comes from God directly is not objected to a time and distance barrier as we know it (because God is eternal), The whole universe would have been lit up by the light that came from God. All the way to the end and back. When applying how something happened in creation. You have to remember that God was not hindered in anyway by time. And because we know nothing about the realm of eternity that He lives in, as far as how we precieve time, It can only be presumed that God being eternal, in his realm, gave God enough time, in our realm, to do what was needed to create everything in 6 days our time as we precieve it.
And if you don't think so. Then answer this question. How is time calculated in the eternal (if that is possible)? And if you can't answer that question, then the scientific answer for 6 day creation cannot be answered by science until such is testable. And to presume as much as science has already, without the knowlege of eternity, means it all could be wrong and God could be right.
Because to say something is wrong when it's not testable, is to only guess at what is observable. Which is how science came up with all that it has already.
But what if all of a sudden, we could test eternity? Some theories, I think, would have to be rewritten.
Obviously there is no room for debate as you are completely closed minded.
Perhaps you could clear somthing up for me, As the sun was not created until the 4th day... How was a Day defined?
Without a sun, how can one have a day?
Did step 1-3 of creation take exactly 24 hours each?
Or is the term "Day" used by god metiphoricly as a representation of a arbitrary amount of time?
No not closed minded, just tried of the same old arguements that end up with the same answers and the same bias. In a sense, nothing about creation and God's word will ever be accepted by science. And if you don't think so, then name one theory that mentions God, or supports God.
LOL, nice try and recovery.
But when someone is taught that there are no absolute rights or no absolute wrongs, and a lie is just someone's else's opinion. There's really nothing to argue about. I believe God's word is true, and you don't. I have made my choice and you've made yours. I accept your choice and do not push my views upon you. But why is it you cannot accept mine? And why you think it's so important that I accept scientific views? Like I said before, it's not a mind control game.
If I post my views on this forum, is it forcing you to think the way I do?
But yet you seem to think a challenge of some sort is in order. Why? Do you want to prove me wrong, or God?
Remember, I did not start the thread. So don't attack me through what I believe. For if I wrote, what you wrote, about what you believe. You'd take offense to it. Cause you know what your trying to call God invertingly. And if I do the same to you and what you believe, would it be fair?
Your attempts to flame and then cover it up by using poems etc... Is not a very good attempt. And I won't lower myself to the level you'd like by responding in kind.
One more thing. I'm not making this one of my regular forums. I stick to christian forums mainly. But as any webmaster knows, each site comes with a control panel that keeps info on where your visitors are coming from. That's how I found this site. The link the thread starter left on the first post is logged into my control panel that tells me where the visitors are coming from. It gives this sites www address and how many visitors have clicked on the link. I check up on where my visitors are coming from if there's a bunch of visits. From here there has been more than 10 visits. So I looked and found this thread based solely on my site. So I looked to see what's being said. It was common stuff that I see at just about every forum.
But what made me join to post was what a couple of people were saying about: what's wrong with a different point of veiw? Which is exactly how I feel so I had to make a comment. Otherwise, I would have left and not posted, nor joined.
Anyway, I have to many irons in the fire, building my website etc..., to add another forum to my list.
So if anyone has a question about my site, you can e-mail me here: issac@yecheadquarters.org
I may come back to visit. But it won't be to answer eternal's questions.
Its the Biblical chronoliges added up, of course theres no evidence for anyone before Abraham mentioned in the Bible to be real person.
I have to warn New Mars, ikester is known for spreading false information, propaganda, spamming, flaming, and resistance to *gasp* learning!
LOL, and who might this be that knows so much about me? Maybe someone from christianforums.com?
And I do believe that people can make up their owns minds about me. This is not a mind control game you know.
And the accusations about flaming etc... christiansforums.com does not put up that sort of stuff. Can you explain why I have not been warned, not even once, if all these things you claim are true?
In fact, if anyone wants to find out who is telling the truth about what eternal is saying. Go to christianforums.com and e-mail the owner of the site and ask if I'm a trouble maker that's been warned. I'm not afraid of the truth. I do believe the owner's name is Erwin.
By the way, was it me who posted this thread to start something?
and try to force it upon people.
*So these people aren't entitled to their opinions and beliefs?
If their viewpoints and beliefs disagree with -yours-, are you suggesting they should be deprived of expressing those viewpoints and beliefs because otherwise they are "forcing people"?
And what about the oft-spoken complaints on the part of religionists, that they are being "forced" by secularists to consider the theory of evolution?
--Cindy
(I'm -not- religious or a creationist).
I agree. I visit a couple of science forums and it's always the samething. Bully the YEC person. I am entitled to my view of 6 day creation. Just the way God said He did it. I don't force my views upon anyone.
By the way, I'm the webmaster of YEC Headquarters.
If my website annoys, then don't go to it.