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Why would the U.S. government fund or allow the building of space elevators? Because the likes of China, Canada, and who knows who else are not going to stand for the U.S. monopoly idea of space.
why was it classified at all?
never mind, just go to the X-prize website ha?!
. . . and can you imagine if these groups start using all the latest nanotech materials soon?
does anybody know all the X-prize entrants?
I've heard of this prize before, but I didn't take it seriously . . . ouch!LoL I'm smiling like a cheshire cat! I'm trully blown away; can you imagine when the solar sail guy's get going?
Wha't going to happen when the x-prize awards whoever is first? What will happen to the rest of these capable groups? Hopefully, more prizes are set!
It will be great when these guy's get with the australian scramjet thing too!
This is unbelievable! This isn't just any old rocket; this is supposed to be reusable rockets! I didn't think reusable rockets were going to be around for another fifteen years, and by then we are looking to have space elevators . . . hah, the future is coming blindingling fast! Whoa!
I think I need to try to become an astronaut!
We have all kinds of business guy's trying to win the X-prize; why didn't these people explain themselves to the governments of the world?(i suspect it is because of that 1967 no governments establishing themselves on another planet treaty)
In the end, politics and money will get us out there. The reason why we went to the moon was because Russia scared americans about other countries science and technology capabilities; we didn't want to be left behind.
I find your reply confusing the issues; one of which is that china stopped exploring around the fifteen hundreds after making great tech progress and then regressed.
What does governement have to do with space indeed; no wonder we can't get to space; we all have different secret needs and desires; that is one lesson I've learned from trying to tell people what's wrong with people's understanding of what's going on and the role of space in it.
Never mind the link!LoL
"I was watching some sci fi movie on the sci fi channel today; it was a cheap sci fi exclusive going to mars movie; from my reading of Ben Bova's "Mars" books, I can tell where they got the story line, but then I realized why we have not and will not establish a permanent space colony independent of earth untill some private effort gets the ability.
Number one: what's in it for the public that isn't going to go? Don't even give me the spin-off propaganda . . .
Number two: what's in it for a government? They'll get overrun just like Britain did from the USA. When space colony advocates try to use history as reason's for going to space like the china failure and so on and so forth, I guarantee you the first thing that goes through the politicians heads is the whole British loosing control of the american colonies fiasco. "
you think just because there are trillions of stars, there must be an intelligent technological civilization from each, or most of, them; this is a BIG assumtion! I take it you don't see!LoL Your ASSUMING there's even a habitable planet on any of them. Untill you can tell me how you know there is an earth like planet on any of them, you and I cannot assume there are trillions of E.T.'s about to take us over out there. I hope you see now that just because there are hugh amounts of stars doesn't mean there's hugh amounts E.T.'s out there. Just because there's stars doesn't mean there's an E.T. on any one of them. The existence of a star doesn't not dictate the existence of an E.T. Starting to get it?
Also, If you think a few asteroids here and there in earth's history has been violent, we're in a quiet area of the galaxy which allows our solar system to be a lot less violent.
I wasn't talking to you soph.
As for your latest reply; what is your arguement that life is abundant? The abundance of stars? That was alway's a weak arguement; now, scientific evidence is more and more showing that most of the universe is to violent to often for intelligent life to develop. As I put it, "it is going to take a revolutionary finding to change up the conclusions that intelligent life is extremelly rare."
For the rest of your reply, yes, all that other stuff in my post is probably not worth much and very debatable.
I guess it is better to just say, thanks for forfeiting; i win by default.
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Rome wasn't built in a day; it didn't fall in a day either
Life survives by eating and reproducing; intelligent life like us earthling human's find our food by means of knowledge of ourselves and the universe which is applied to create technology.
Certainly, a revolutionary finding may shift the conclusions, but more and more it is looking like the peacefull galactic conditions we find ourselves in is very rare, and hence, intelligent life is very rare.
Kid's are born natural scientists with natural curiosity and a will to explore the ends of the earth if they could, yet somewhere in childhood, most kid's learn to hate science as a social grace. What's the problem here? Why do we have people like such :
http://www.superstringtheory.com/forum/ … 7/148.html
With all the above, scientists must take an active political role which they don't seem to think necessary. It is worthless to create and discover all this knowledge if society destroy's itself purposelly or by blindly by not looking at the true understanding that comes from honest scientific knowledge. I know a good place to start in an analyses of where the problem resides.
Industrial agriculturalism. Modern day industrialism is just the agriculturalism started around 10,000 bc in terms of newtonian science machines. Agriculturalism allowed specialization by freeing up people to do other thing's other than agiculture or hunting, but only a few are allowed to do science, sports, or arts(music, skulptur, and painting); the rest do manual labor; in fact, the majority do manual labor. People come up with ideas from there current perspective, and in an industrial society, the majority of people don't grow up associating science with exploration and adventure; hence fun, but with a few textbooks of math that they'll never need in their later lives. Not only that, but way back in 10,000 bc when all this started happening, people didn't generally know that one could do science, but because figuring thing's out from one's current perspective is alway's the way thing's are figured out, they tried to understand the universe anyways. The first thing's anybody knew was what they themselves made; everything was concieved from there. When they generalized to who(notice the assumption of who) made the lightning strike, their minds were blown away. Think abou it! It is a mindblowing conception! The enormity of a being's powers to create the universe around them and then who created them is a trully astounding thought, but it is wrong in its basic assumptions, but never mind that right now! The point is that this was the only possibility for the current perspective at the time, and with the majority of people not exactly doing science or engineering in a scientific way, it took hold.
Is this necessarilly a bad thing? Well, in today's civilization where businesses, politicians do their irresponsible use of scientific knowledge(with engineers that are just doing it for the money; another issue), it is! I'll guarantee you the person who came up with that post above did not discover and concieve for himself the idea of original sin, but he'll refuse to question it. Why? Because he married a believer who's family are believers, and so nobody want's to rock the boat. Not to mention, he get's pu$$y every night with that believer. Yes, and I'm sure he really does love his kid's who are also now stuck in this social hard place. Everybody loves to laugh about the ufo believers but doesn't dare make the connection with believing in the dominant supernatural religions of today - what a double standard!
The only way to overcome all this is for everybody spend more time alone, and to spend that time searching for how to do science; for everybody to figure out how to survive alone. This will only really happen with nanotechnology transhumans.