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Damn!

The ground looks wet, so maybe that helped soften the impact.

If anyone can salvage data from the wreck, NASA can.

I am a Pacifist at Heart. I dream of the human race working together to do things like terraforming Mars and Venus. Imagine if the human race took all the resources we have put into war and used them to explore and settle space. Instead of fighting over this old world, we could build new worlds.

But as long as there are Hitlers and Saddams, terrorist like OBL. As long as people being slaughtered like in Sudan, and as long as government want to oppress their people like North Korea and Iran, there will be bloodshed.

Turning a blind eye makes us hypocrites and guilty- guilty for ignoring crimes against humanity when we could do something about it. Hypocrites because someone else dies for our human rights and freedom, and we are unwilling to do the same.
Some times war is necessary.

On the bright side, more people (in relation to population growth) are living better lives than every before.
Basic human rights and freedom are slowing taking over the Earth, inch by inch. We’ll get there- to a peaceful global society- one day.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories200 … .jpg]Check out this picture

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories200 … zb.jpg]And this one.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories200 … 545z.jpg]I can see my house from here

Sand Worms do not like water so maybe they are fleeing a wet area of Arrakis...I mean Mars

The Spice must flow

I don’t see a difference between Saddam and Hitler

Saddam did take over Kuwait. He invaded Iran. He threatened to invade Saudi Arabia. He gassed thousands of Kurds with WMD. He had countless others murder. His sons raped woman. One of his sons had a human shredding machine.

Evil people in the same boat as Hitler.

As for freedom, someone already died for ours back in 1776.  Unlike the Iraqis, the American revolutionist were well armed, well fed and their enemy was across the Atlantic. Their major grievance was being taxed to death verse the Iraqis, which was just staying alive

We lost many Americans giving Europe their freedom back in WWII. Germany did not attack America, so should we have stayed out of it?

The Japanese didn’t ask for freedom, but we gave it to them and look at what a powerful country they have become.

It is hard to fight for your freedom when you are being starved, and terrorized by your Gestapo, or KGB, like government. The Iraqis could not get organized and they did not have guns. Meanwhile Saddam and sons tortured, raped, gassed and even shredded the poor Iraqis. Saddam and his sons needed to go, for the good of humanity, they needed to go. Getting rid of them is enough to justify the war for me.

Sorry Cindy. I got way off topic. I just love my state.

I am fond the Rocky Mountain States, but I do not think I could survive the winters (I have thought of living in New Mexico or Colorado). Arkansas is like a second home state, since that is where my family is from and I have been going there my whole life. I spent a lot of time in northern Georgia and I like it there. But I’ll always hang my hat in Texas.

http://skyandtelescope.com/news/article_1341_1.asp]More here

Cobra, speaking about the UN, don't forget the corrupt UN Oil for Food program.

As for the it "was all about Oil"
It has cost the US much more money than we'll ever see in oil. From what I have seen, Iraq is getting the money for the oil is producing.

No, this is about bringing the Middle East into the Free World. There are many who see thjis and do not want this. They want to keep their women under wraps. They don't want to loose their power over these people.

Like I said, the seed of freedom has been planted, and it is a hard plant to kill.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130726,00.html]NASA announces four new planets in a class all their own.

For me, Iraq is the fight for freedom in the Middle East. We have planted the seed of freedom there and I do believe it will grow. There are many who do not want this, but it is too late.

Once Iraq and Afghanistan are free democracies, I believe freedom will spread throughout the rest of the Middle East. The youth in Iran want this freedom. Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are pretty much free.

This is President’s Bush’s vision for the Middle East. He has said that the only way to stop terrorist is to get rid of the environment that breeds them. A suicide bomber has nothing to live for and has nothing to loose. Lets give them something some thing worth living for. Lets give them something to loose. Lets give them freedom.

And for those who think the Iraqis should have earned their own freedom, lets not forget that we did not earn our freedom- or forefathers did, and many died for it. The Iraqis were in no shape to revolt. Unlike the American revolutionist, the Iraqi people were underfed, unarmed and terrorized by their own government. Their enemy wasn’t a government on the other side of the Atlantic, it was in their homes.

As for WMD in Iraq, I still say the book is still open. We shall see.

Cindy,

Frankly I don’t care what Kerry or Bush did 30 something years ago. It is who they are now that concerns me.

George Bush was my governor for 8 years. He was a very good governor. When he became president, I knew he would do a good job, but I didn’t think he was a strong president. When I saw how he rose to the challenge after 9/11, I gained respect for him. During that horrible day he held this country together and did all the right things.

He is a man who sticks to what he feels is right regardless of what the polls show. I do believe he loves America and is trying to protect it. He is a man who’s country was brutally attacked by terrorist, and I can see the pain of that attack in his eyes.

I was afraid he was so obsessed with capturing bin laden that he would sacrifice anything to catch him, but I don’t see that now.

What about Kerry? I truly do not know where he stands on just about everything. I have heard him flip flop around on all the major issues.

I do like Senator Joe Lieberman. I like him a lot. I wouldn’t mind seeing him president one day. I wish the Democrat party had picked him. He is a good man who has direction and would do the right thing for America. I don’t see Kerry in that light.