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#1 Re: Life support systems » Hydroponics - Growing food on the way to Mars » 2004-01-08 15:25:27

Does anyone have any good ideas about growing food on the Mars, im juts curious of peoples ideas.

#2 Re: Human missions » Food » 2003-12-26 12:36:13

Does anyone know any good websites with discuss growing food on the way to mars. I have looked and looked and can;t find any good ones. Please help. smile

#3 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Languages, Return of the - A simple question, opinions please » 2003-08-30 11:09:23

I was just wondering here, could I please have some answers please.

Which Do you think, Italian or Japanese, would be the best language for Mars? Opinions... (But please stick to Italian or Japanese, the other Lang. Topic covers all languages).

#4 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Hibernation - Is human hibernation possible? » 2003-04-27 10:49:48

I remember reading about a year ago that some scientist, i think in Carolina (though i can't be sure) had stated he had found two genes in human which were used in squirrels during hibernation, and the only thing they needed before human hibernation would be possible was the "trigger", does anyone know if they have found it yet?

Also, does anyone know anyone other (none genetic) ways to induce human hibernation? Or any methods for cryostasis that don't shread your cells? Though i have read an article than says if you replace the nitrogen and CO2 in a cryochamber with hydrogen and helium under a pressure of i think it was about 1500 bars, then you can freeze the person and the Ice will be Ice2, which does not expand like regular ice, hence not shredding your cells, this makes it look like cryostasis could be possible?

So I am asking does anyone have any information on the viability of human hibernation or cryostasis.

#5 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Mountain launch tracks revisited, - Alternative to fuelled rocket boosters. » 2003-04-20 07:14:04

Sorry, just went back and read the post. So, u meant the sled can never go faster than 0.3km/s/s. Isn't that a bit slow?

#6 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Mountain launch tracks revisited, - Alternative to fuelled rocket boosters. » 2003-04-20 07:12:01

Umm...also is Mach 0.9 and acceleration of about 300m/s/s That's like 30g. No-one could launch with that accerleration comfortably could they, though i may have worked all that out wrong and may now look inceedibly stupid. But, isn't it?

#7 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Mountain launch tracks revisited, - Alternative to fuelled rocket boosters. » 2003-04-20 04:36:52

This may not be imprtant exactly, but all the best sites for volcanoes are in unstable countries, politically i mean. I mean, Kenya, Tanzania and Malaysia (to it is the best of the three by far), are not exactly the baskets you want to place all you eggs.
Though I may be mistaken, I sometimes can jump to conclusions.
But, could it be possible to build a track in a more stable country (a western country).
Would'ny you just need a longer track and a different launch angle?
My ideas for possible sites are;
Monte Amaro, Italy. 2793m high, 50km to the Aegean sea for eastward launch, but 42 degrees N.
Serra de Cadi, Spain. 2567m high, 175km to Ligurian Gulf, but again 42 degrees north.
Cerro-Pena Nevada, Mexico. 3644m high, 150km to Gulf of Mexico (but not sure), 24 degrees north, but the problem is it's in an earthquake zone.

Another possibility would be to built a launch track in French Guiana, with is only 4 degrees North, but there is no mountain, but is a mountain necessary, how much of a rise is need at the end of the track?

I know none of these come to being anywhere near are useful as Mt. Kenya would be, or Kilimanjaro, but all four sites are in more politically stable environments, so the investment would be safe.

What does anyone think? Personally out of the four ideas i think the Italy one would be best, or possibly French Guiana.

#8 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Mountain launch tracks revisited, - Alternative to fuelled rocket boosters. » 2003-04-19 12:22:58

Theoretically would it be possible to dispose of the first stage. So that you only need the maglev and the space plane engines (eliminating the need to collect anything from the see.)

And at what speed would you need to leave the maglev track at?

#9 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Mountain launch tracks revisited, - Alternative to fuelled rocket boosters. » 2003-04-19 10:16:19

Umm...Hi, actually I was just thinking about this, and i wonder if anyone could help me.

I worked out the figures, but i want to see what answers others get ok,

Question;
To maintain an orbit of +200km you need a launch speed of 8.063 km/s. No when you launch from surface eastwards can use the earth's rotational velocity as part of you launch velocity, so at the equator you will only need a launch velocity of aroung 7.57 km/s.
Would it be possible to launch with an acceleration of 3g on a mountain track and how long would the track need to be?

Just want to see if your answers come close to mine.
And answers/theories/suggestions would be helpful. I will tell you my answers later if anyone wants them.

#10 Re: Not So Free Chat » slavery - why does it still exist? » 2003-04-09 11:15:33

Hi. Sorry to bring this up, but i have only read the beginning of the thread, but what i keep seeing is ELIMINATE and END. But just getting rid of something won't solve the problems. You need to think of reorganzing and redesgning. There is alot of that to be done.

#11 Re: Space Policy » Why Not Offer A "Bounty" For A Mars Mission - 10 Billion dollars for the first » 2003-02-16 15:34:36

What you fail to realise is all your evils you mention are in the past. America is the largest present evil. And I do think of America's good. You have some of the best Universities in the world.  Most of then in the North-East which is quite Europeanesque. But American self-righteousness does not allow them to see their own problems. And yes I am a bit jealous, or more resentful. For America does not deserve what it has. It is only so rich from getting money out of Britain and France during the World Wars. Profiting on death.

As in the famous quote..."History ended in 1917 when America became the most powerful nation on earth."

And i am not going to argue anymore. For i can never agree with you and you can never agree with me. We are both patriotic and should be. Ok.

#12 Re: Space Policy » Why Not Offer A "Bounty" For A Mars Mission - 10 Billion dollars for the first » 2003-02-16 12:37:04

You are oppressed, you are conned into thinking you have freedom. And Hitler was anything but Socialist.

And by UN pole Norway has the highest standard of Living in the world. Uk is 12th and the usa is 14th.

Why to all Americans fail to see their own evils. But to ready to see the evils of other. You made us lose our empire just so u could gain one by dominating other nations economies.

#13 Re: Space Policy » Why Not Offer A "Bounty" For A Mars Mission - 10 Billion dollars for the first » 2003-02-16 10:51:22

The "norm" as you put is the majority, And the majority of Americans are fat. So overweight is your norm.
And I didn't call you ignorant but maybe where you live and your age group. Maybe there isnt a high percentage of overweightness. Maybe you caught on to the fact being fat is bad. Which very few Americans understand or care about. I don't know which.

Anyway this topic was about the evils of Capitalism not the evils imposed on the world by the United States. Despite how intertwined the subjects are. Also, in a way, every American sort of has to defend Capitalism. a) it keeps you in control of the world, so to speak and b) over the past 60 years you have killed too many people imposing Capitalism throughout the world just to accept its a bad system.

Americans over the past 50 years haven't even had the ability to consider Socialism never mind adopt it. I feel sorry that you live/lived in such an oppressed soceity/

#14 Re: Space Policy » Why Not Offer A "Bounty" For A Mars Mission - 10 Billion dollars for the first » 2003-02-16 07:35:34

Soph, I would have been scared if an american had actually agreed with me, but that is what America looks like to the rest of the world.

3 problems with your statemoent.
1. USA does not make more than the EU combined. It only just barely makes more than Germany. And Germany plus just the UK make a good bit more than USA.
2. Isnt the US population only aroun 260Million.
3. You haven't met many Americans if you most are average weight. Though I guess the US aveage weight is higher than the European Average weight.

And I have been to America. I found it (for the most part, but probably the new generation are better and not like this) a county full of short, overweight people who are far to happy.

And capitalism and democracy don't go hand it hand. Unless you class bribary as a form of capitalism.

Again no offence to Americans...but you all really scare us.

#15 Re: Space Policy » Why Not Offer A "Bounty" For A Mars Mission - 10 Billion dollars for the first » 2003-02-09 10:31:04

Some one a while back said capitaliasm should go into space along with democracy, which I think is very Ironic because Capitalism opposes democracy, prefering to keep power with the wealthy (and usually stupid) elite. All it is is Autpcracy with a new name. If you are going to have dictatorship of the wealthy, use a royal family, at least they know how to handle money (not that I am pro-dictatorship - but anything is better that another Americanised Capitalist state, another country where only 20& vote because the other 80% are too fat to egt in the poling booths. I am sorry but I don't trust americans, you may be nice people, you probably are, but ur the "new money" rich kid of the world - stupid and unused to money. No offence  - but it is true - current consensus in Britain is the USA is a bigger threat to world security than any other country, because ur not that experienced as a nation, are you?)

No Offecne, btw. But it is all true.

#17 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Languages - Parlo Italiano - What langauge should be the Official? » 2003-02-06 12:09:50

Sorry, I was on about strongest economies, not GDP. Sorry bout the mix up.

#18 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Languages - Parlo Italiano - What langauge should be the Official? » 2003-02-05 15:10:37

??? How incorrect you are robs. UK is nowhere near Brazilian economy. We are fourth best in the world (in the order Japan, USA, Germany, UK, France, Canada, Italy.)

Just thought you should have the correct info.

#19 Re: Terraformation » Venus / Mars » 2003-02-05 01:34:27

The only LARGE problem I see with Mars is the ONE continent is so big , and most of the south has no large areas of water; isn't it going to turn into a Giant Russia ir Arid Antarctic Desert, making most of the southern hemisphere rather useless.

But you all see right, Mars will probably be easier to terraform.

And the estimates for freezing the CO2 is 120 years at latest guess and it will take about 90 years to speed up Venus' rotation at latest guess.

#20 Re: Terraformation » Venus / Mars » 2003-02-04 12:07:55

Which is better / easier to terraform? Mars or Venus? I heard somewhere it is probably easier to terraform Venus than it is to terraform Mars? Opinions....Comments... big_smile

#21 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Languages - Parlo Italiano - What langauge should be the Official? » 2003-02-02 14:42:01

soph, I no this is a random question, but r u male or female? Just curious.

#22 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Languages - Parlo Italiano - What langauge should be the Official? » 2003-02-02 14:30:33

I always find Spanish sounds alot like Arabic at times, and it doesn't have the ncie lilt Italian does.

#23 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Languages - Parlo Italiano - What langauge should be the Official? » 2003-02-02 13:51:32

I hold that since Mars is inherantly beautiful, the language it has should be. English, German, Lojban, Spanish, etc. are ugly langauges. We must find a language of beauty, in both appearance and sound for Mars.

I still say Italian, or maybe French are best. And it isn't saying a language is better than another. I hold Japanese is fantastic language, but I would never use it as oficial, it is just to complicated, it took me four years to really begin to pick it up, where as i was speaking italian fluently in 3 months.
So it is not discrimination, just some languages are easier and nicer on the ear than others. Am I not correct, I would much prefer to listen to Italian than German (though German is a very interesting language with it's own beauty.)

Every langauge has its beauty, but some are more beautiful than others.

#24 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Languages - Parlo Italiano - What langauge should be the Official? » 2003-02-02 07:43:01

Well, by official Language, I mean the "State" Language. The one which everyone learns, and would be globally acceptable. So, if it was a global government were used, only one language would be used, you would not need a fleet of translators.

But it doesn't mean you can't speak a native tongue in private. For example, in Mauritus, English is the Language taught in schools, but about 50% of Mauritians speak French at home.

I propose we have a language which acts like English, which everyone is able to use and understand, and would be the language used in every day public life, but everyone has the right to speak their "Franch" or Private langauge at home.

I just think one official language would be easier for a more global, rather than national, community.

#25 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Languages - Parlo Italiano - What langauge should be the Official? » 2003-02-02 05:33:25

Ok -  Lojban and Esperanto may sound good because they are neutral -  but since they have never been spoken naturally, most of the needed vocabulary won't exist, will it?

Also, English may be technical, but it is confusing, it may be easy to write, but hell to pronounce, unlike romance languages (excluding Spanish) where each letter has a sound which is always used. In English we have five sounds for "a" and "e", four for (there is a problem, words sounding too much alike) "i", and two for "o", "u" and "y".

I still hold we need an official language on Mars, because if each settlement speaks a seperate language, they are unlikely to join in a global government. Langauge and Religion are the biggest divides, so let's at least only use one language (use as many religions as you want, but NO state religion or Official Religion, people should have freedom to worship).

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