https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUqQChex4S8
Alaska Denali exceeds 6000 meters (19,685 feet) elevation, four peaks exceed 5000 meters (16,404 feet)
ten of the highest major summits of the United States are in Alaska
some say the cold and high mountains in Alaska are of interest but is it a bad idea?
'Airplane Accident Rate in Alaska is 2.35 Times the National Average'
https://www.manufacturing.net/aerospace … al-average
The state lacks certain critical infrastructure, and the NTSB says it needs a safety review
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Some other towns, villages and city at high elevations, Parinacota in Chile, Santa Barbara in Bolivia, there are a bunch of towns in the Himalayas inside China, Saint-Véran in France, Sestriere, in Italy, Obergurgl in Austria, it can be possible to get worse than a 'scame village' or some miner stabbing thief bandit location, there is an islamist jihadi ridden place in Kurush Republic of Dagestan in the South of Russia, Akhpradzor another high altitude place in Armenia although a war ongoing with an Azerbaijani offensive, Sana'a in Yemen with an ongoing Civil War and constant drone attacks and terror attacks, Totonicapán in Guatemala, Laya in Bhutan, Tulcán Ecuador, Jama a border settlement in Argentina, Mina Pirquitas Argentina.
'Saint-Véran, France - The beautiful village in high mountain'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zYKNC2pWUQ
a height of 1,756–3,175 m (5,761–10,417 ft) (avg. 2,040 m or 6,690 ft) average annual temperature in Saint-Véran is 5.3 °C (41.5 °F).
https://www.map-france.com/Saint-Veran-05350/
cyanide toxins and mercury toxins are common
Just because you have the ability to drive here does it mean you should?
La Rinconada is one of the highest towns accessible by car
https://www.dangerousroads.org/south-am … onada.html
La Rinconada is a small mining town at an elevation of 5.130m (16,830ft) above the sea level, located in the Ananea District, San Antonio de Putina Province, in Puno region of Peru.
Travelling along is not recommended due local mafias. Local miners, -forced to live among garbage, without electricity and sewage, among excruciating nauseating stinks-, refine the ore by grinding and treating it with mercury and pressing the mass through a cloth to filter it. The resulting amalgam is heated, to remove the mercury. The living conditions are terrifying: it lacks plumbing and sanitation systems and the only source of drinking water in the city comes from lakes contaminated by mercury.
5,100 m or 16,700 ft or 3.2 mi above sea level, it is the highest permanent settlement in the world, it seems like old frontier 'Wild West' land
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqaGdcQh5jA
human trafficking, people have belonging stole in stabbings its common to see prostitution events on streets, lack of hospitals and services, high levels of sexual transmitted diseases
people arrive to make 'Gold' it is not a tourist ski resort and crime, scams and muggings are common
Hypoxia City
https://vis.sciencemag.org/hypoxia-city/
At 5100 meters’ elevation, a Peruvian gold mining town is the world’s highest settlement—and a good place to study how life at extremely low oxygen levels ravages the body
'Everest Crevasse Fall & Emergency Rescue'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4ZrD7IoFlo
what did they chat about
Bhutan and the United States have no formal diplomatic relations, the United States is instead represented through the American embassy in New Delhi. Bhutan is a Kingdom, a Unitary semi-constitutional Monarchist system. Bhutan is landlocked between China in the north and India in the south, despite the harsh conditions for life it has a rich environment and the wildlife of Bhutan is notable for its diversity.
Foreign Minister of Bhutan at NASA HQ
https://images.nasa.gov/details/NHQ202309270103
and politics Deccan Herald an Indian English language newspaper and website founded Hindus and by K. N. Guruswamy, a liquor businessman.
'India on alert as Bhutan, China talk about settling boundary row, establishing diplomatic ties'
https://www.deccanherald.com/india/indi … es-2740175
Bhutan might have banned mountaineering out of respect for the spirits of the mountains, it exports Wood to India, some agricultural products go to China and Electricity - via hydroelectric power to India, the Kingdom of Bhutan measures quality of life by Gross National Happiness (GNH) and 60% of the land must be forest by 'Law' plastic bags have been banned and tobacco is almost totally illegal, Slavery was finally abolished in 1958 it was totally normal to have a slave.
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]]>‘Nepal has the potential to pursue world-class research and design’
https://kathmandupost.com/art-culture/2 … and-design
Anwit Adhikari on his passion for design and technology, underscoring both the barriers and the scope within the Nepali education system for engineers.
I don't know if its truly a scam or some scammer thing but something about this news item feels off, the only other place I see this news posted is a weird website called 'euvolution' which talks about political stuff, black lives matter, Ufo topics, Psychic Ouija board stuff, Donald Trump and 'Conscious Evolution' whatever that term is supposed to mean.
https://www.euvolution.com/prometheism- … andu-post/
'Kathmandu', the City, is the capital and the most populous city and Capital of Nepal
Nepal are involved with some amazing climbing they have people operating at Everest Base Camps, they have people who are skilled climbers, they know these conditions and mounatin howling winds and extreme altitudes. They help other people from other countries before climbing the mountain it is a good idea them to improve fitness, they can do team work tasks and training and have a enthusiastic attitude and who know the technical climbing skills, they know the 'Death Zone' at 8,000 meters 26,000 ft body parts exposed will suffer frostbite, temperature is so low that the ice is an extreme slipping hazard, oxygen levels already only a third of the requirement normally needed to breathe, the human body is dying at this altitude and what these people to to help climbers is amazing, helicopters can't easily reach the summit, it is a mission to survive and not uncommon for people unable to walk will be left to die and what locals do to help climbers is a great support task, the Economy of Nepal is still classed as a developing country and largely dependent on tourism, getting food to feed itself and remittances, a non-commercial transfer of money by a foreign worker, a member of a diaspora community, they sell dried peas, they sell carpets, they sell types of Tea or sell 'Stones' or sell 'Art' while Foreign Aid to Nepal accounts for more than half of the development budget. South Base Camp is in Nepal at an altitude of 5,364 metres (17,598 ft) Sherpas seem to be hard survivor mountain people, a totally different culture to city people the Food and Equipment are brought to the South Base Camp by Sherpas or porters, with the help of animals like yaks.
The news item in a way links to a Canadian group that links to a University and Saskatchewan and a name 'Celestial Labs' or celestiallaboratories I'm not sure if they did any big event or if the group or company is around anymore
Regina is the capital city of the Canadian province of Saskatchewan.
There is a 'linked in' page
https://www.linkedin.com/company/celestial-laboratories
Samuel Redekop who might also link?
https://ca.linkedin.com/in/samuel-redekop-73b380190
plus a guy called Mr Mathwell who dances plays guitar while teaching math and posting lots of memes
https://www.mrmathwell.com/
a 404 error website ubcmarscolony.wordpress.com and a dead domain link ubcmarscompetition.com
Maybe they did make a genuine effort to test a space habitat but I can not find anything else on the web.
however in many parts of t he world there can be good and not so good people
How to Avoid Travel Scams and Crime in Nepal
Avoid con artists, scammers and crime in Nepal.
https://www.worldnomads.com/travel-safe … s-in-nepal
'Here's everything you need to know to stay safe and enjoy your time in the mountains.'
The Biggest Tourist Scam in Nepal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxKcL1kPvv0
and How to Avoid It!
I'm not saying the news is a 'scam' maybe it is maybe it is not,
but if you go to a strange place to make a pit stop before a long journey you must draw upon your life experience and also use your common sense.
In another place in Asia, since 2003, mountaineering has been banned in Bhutan, as the ban is unlikely to be lifted anytime soon, Gangkhar Puensum is likely to remain unclimbed.
https://www.dailybhutan.com/article/bhu … al-beliefs
the Mountain has become a political issue of scared and to climb it is disrespecting spiritual beliefs
They are Hindu, Buddhist and Christian but also there is the 'Bon' of Bhutan, from what I have seen of 'Bon' it is neither mainstream Buddhist nor mainstream Hindu but perhaps a mix of both with Native Mountain people religion, there are also 'Bon Deities'.
Moving away from the restriction of Culture bans and Religious untouched site there is a challenge called 7 Summits, the most remote one of the South Pole they go by boat or more typically fly from Chile or Argentina
Union Base a Commercial Base in Antarctica
Firstly access to Post, Guides, the Port, Communications, Food, Repair and Maintenance, Toilets, Medical Facility.
finally a difficult climb but no camping at the top
summit of Vinson Massif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrWZdo26RmY
but to reach the highest camps you will spend much time in Bhutan where they banned climbing, or India, China, Nepal but what else is there? Mount Logan in Canada, Mount Blanc the French Italian Alps, Pico de Orizaba of Mexico, Gunnbjørn Fjeld Greenland known as part of the Kingdom of Denmark, Dufourspitze of the Swiss Italian Alps and and the Pennine Alps, Khüiten Peak marks the border tripoint between Russia, Mongolia, and China, Grossglockner the highest mountain in Austria, Mount Chirripó of Costa Rica, Denali also known as Mount McKinley Alaska, Pico Simón Bolívar of Colombia, Mount Elbrus and Shkhara of the Caucacus and Southern Russia and Georgia, Vinson Massif a large mountain massif in Antarctica.
Vinson Massif was named after Carl G. Vinson, a US congressman who persuaded the US Government to pledge support for exploration of Antarctica in the 20th century. The mountain was first climbed by a US expedition team sponsored by the American Alpine Club. They reached the summit at 11.30am on 18 December 1966 – the first of many climbing teams who would come to conquer Antarctica’s highest peak.
Adventure Network International first arranged a climb of Vinson Massif in 1984. The expedition was unsuccessful due to weather and engine problems, but in 1985, Adventure Network International organised and completed three successful expeditions. Since the inception of the Vinson Massif climbing program, Adventure Network International has taken over 500 clients to the top of this coveted Seventh Summit.
https://7summits.com/vinson/vinson.htm
Adventure Network was aquired by Antarctic Logistics who continued the services, up til beginning of 2005 about 950 people have summited Mt Vinson.
Maybe Mars one day would be a site to make a show or commercial to advertise the survival hardness of a product
https://archive.org/details/everest-the … icals-1.ts
Commercials from broadcast of Everest The Mountain At The Millennium
They say it has lost over 1,000 meters or 3,280 feet, it was over 10,000 meters high 13 million years ago, but it eventually collapsed because it could not withstand the effects of gravity, weather, and gradually became what it is today.
The pressure on Mars is inherently very low, about 0.75% of atmospheric pressure on Earth
Thank you for thinking about the Mount Everest Research Station idea ...
You've asked helpful questions! Does anyone among the Registered Membership have a suggestion to move this along?
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Regarding the atmosphere in the research facility ... It seems to me we would fly personnel in by helicopter, wearing their Mars suits, which would be the real thing. There would be ** NO ** acclimatization! The assumption is that the atmosphere outside the habitat is NOT breathable. The habitat would be provided with extra oxygen to provide the 2.7 psi partial pressure recommended by RobertDyck.
If a particular guest/researcher is not comfortable at 2.7 psi, the partial pressure can be increased to 3, which would be sea level equivalent.
Hopefully we will learn that a broad swath of human guests can handle the 2.7 psi partial pressure inside the habitat.
To exit the habitat, the guests/researchers would don "real" Mars suits, and enjoy 3.0 psi pure Oxygen for the duration of their outside excursion.
As far as funding goes ... I would hope the government of Nepal would be interested in promoting this project as a way to increase "tourism" to their country. This would be a facility unlikely to be duplicated except by the Chinese who have their own Mount Everest base station at about the same altitude.
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Everest Base Camp perched on the Khumbu Glacier at the foot of Everest is at an altitude of 5600 metres which is reached over a period of nine days with two complete rest days enroute. In terms of acclimatisation profile it is very feasible as long as you don't go too fast.How hard is it to trek to Everest Base camp?
To move forward, I would like to see communication with Nepal about an extension of their base to include the Mars Society Research Station.
The altitude of 5,600 meters (estimated) is close to the altitude that RobertDyck recommends for consideration for an atmospheric pressure to be used at Mars for human habitat, and in the Large Ship for transport to and from Mars.
As a reminder for someone reading this post for the first time, RobertDyck recommends the pressure of the habitat to be half that of Earth sea level, so that human residents can exit the habitat, using a suit that supplies 3 psi of Oxygen, without prebreathing.
A test environment similar to the Mount Everest base camp would be helpful to confirm that RobertDyck's recommendation will work for all humans, and not just astronaut candidates or military test pilots.
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]]>It appears (as a first impression) that one of the base camps for Mount Everest expeditions in Nepal might be an ideal location for a full scale Mars Analogue Research Station. The location has the distinct advantage of an atmospheric pressure that is close to that recommended by RobertDyck (and others) for the habitat of a Mars facility, and for the cabins of a Large Ship to carry passengers to and from Mars.
It would be helpful if someone were to contact the Nepalese Embassy to the United States, to explore the possibility of a collaborative effort.
The Mars Society has decades of experience running Mars Analogue sites. This would be a step up toward ever greater similarity to the Mars experience.
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