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#51 2003-02-23 14:10:15

Josh Cryer
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Re: A nuclear event - Do you expect one in your lifetime?

I'm saying that Afghanistan is no haven for freedom, womens rights, and democracy like we pretended we'd make it be. It takes a lot more effort than we're putting in.


Some useful links while MER are active. [url=http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html]Offical site[/url] [url=http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Web.html]NASA TV[/url] [url=http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/]JPL MER2004[/url] [url=http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/statustextonly.html]Text feed[/url]
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The amount of solar radiation reaching the surface of the earth totals some 3.9 million exajoules a year.

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#52 2003-02-23 15:03:31

soph
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Re: A nuclear event - Do you expect one in your lifetime?

You can't expect it to change overnight!

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#53 2003-02-23 15:18:43

Josh Cryer
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Re: A nuclear event - Do you expect one in your lifetime?

You're right! Not with only a few million going into reconstruction and so on. I never said that it had to be done overnight, mind you.


Some useful links while MER are active. [url=http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html]Offical site[/url] [url=http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Web.html]NASA TV[/url] [url=http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/]JPL MER2004[/url] [url=http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/statustextonly.html]Text feed[/url]
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The amount of solar radiation reaching the surface of the earth totals some 3.9 million exajoules a year.

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#54 2003-04-19 21:46:08

wccmarsface@msn.com
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Re: A nuclear event - Do you expect one in your lifetime?

On the "nuclear event" possibility suggested by Cindy:  No way to "sugar-coat" this:  what with the advent of so many nations either possessing nuclear weapons or developing the means to acquire them, at some point some nation-state will probably use them against somebody they just don't like.  Perhaps the scariest aspect of this lies in the fact that, irrespective of the end of the so-called "Cold War," both the U.S. and Russia still possess nuclear weapons to the tune of nearly 60,000 warheads with a total yield of about 13,000 megatons between them.  In the TTAPS study in the early eighties, it was shown that a "baseline" 5,000 megaton global nuclear exchange, under certain conditions, would result in the much-discussed "nuclear winter" effect, although, very significant and dangerously, people over the years are so wont to "downplay" the nuclear winter finding as though such could never happen, so, perhaps the "unthinkable" might be, for some, "thinkable!"                                                                                                                                                If, say, India and Pakistan once and for all resort to nuclear hostilities, how can we be at all certain that some domino effect won't occur where-by, perhaps due to a series of miscalculations or miscommunications, the counterforce arsenals of, say, the Russians, doesn't become active in some misperceived retaliatory response?  Suddenly, a number of U.S. cities and various targets of strategic value are now under the horrific pall of numerous hydrogen bomb bursts.  Now, in this event, the U.S. must respond with its own counterforce measures!  Hopefully, Cindy, the foregoing possibility is realistically a "bit of a stretch!"  But, I think, though the "Cold War" is ostensibly over, the threat of nuclear war, either regionally or global (or both!), will be something we will always have to live with.                                                                                                                                                                 I was five years old during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.  At that time, unbeknownst to us until many years later, it was a huge miracle that nuclear war was avoided.  I was a little boy living near Tacoma, Washington, which probably would have escaped direct nuclear incineration.  Sometimes I wonder how different my life would have been, growing up in a world severely damaged in a nuclear holocaust at least a few short years shy of the vast "overkill" capability that could result in nuclear winter!  Such could make a chilling alternate history novel!            wccmarsface@msn.com

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#55 2024-06-05 13:48:49

Mars_B4_Moon
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Re: A nuclear event - Do you expect one in your lifetime?

an older topic

I thought 'no' but it is arguably increasing, the Svalbard Global Seed Vault makes more sense today, the Doomsday Clock is a symbol that represents the likelihood of a human-made global catastrophe, then you had India, Pakistan, and while Bush junior was passing patriot acts, fighting war on multiple fronts and making speeches about an Axis of Evil then 'North Korea' exploded the bomb. Putin is starting to look like the old Imperial Russian tyrants with more modern weapons and Belarus now is armed, how bad could it get? The clock is at 90 seconds to midnight, largely–but not exclusively–to the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the increased risk of nuclear escalation stemming from the conflict.  Russia also brought its war to the Chernobyl and Zaporizhzhia nuclear reactor sites, violating international protocols and risking widespread release of radioactive materials. North Korea resumed its nuclear rhetoric, launching missile test over Japan, international relations are breaking down, pollution problems, continuing threats posed by the climate crisis and the breakdown of global norms and institutions set up to mitigate risks associated with Artificial Intelligence scifi-like AI scenario with advancing technologies and biological threats

https://thebulletin.org/2024/01/press-r … -midnight/

Iran might get the bomb if they there might be war and if they do maybe Turkey or Saudi or Greece and Egypt will want one.


The Russia guy Andrey Viktorovich Gurulyov is a Russian politician and former army officer who is currently a member of the State Duma

Andrey Gurulyov urges nuclear strikes against Europe

was he drinking too much Vodka before he came on the tv show

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mPGdRr_uEPc

'Russian Media Monitor'

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