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For SpaceNut re Posts Repair initiative ...
A Trail Breaker run to 24300 appears to have succeeded...
Completed Sequence for ID: 24300
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 300
Starting Number: 24001
Last Number of Run: 24300
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-19-2022 at 11:52:24
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:35
3 Skip Exceptions were recorded.Total time of Processing: 02:56:31
Skips detail:
d Sequence for ID: 24268
d Sequence for ID: 24285
d Sequence for ID: 24292
All three were the image inside url problem. All are corrected.
A re-scan from 12501 through 13300 will start now. It will run for (about) nine hours.
Update at 21:00 ... The re-scan finished with a Green Screen ...
Completed Sequence for ID: 13300
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 800
Starting Number: 12501
Last Number of Run: 13300
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-19-2022 at 21:01:31
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:39
2 Skip Exceptions were recorded.Total time of Processing: 08:38:23
Sequence for ID: 12552
Sequence for ID: 13029
Both skips were due to image inside url situations. Corrected.
Tomorrow's Trail Breaker will try for 24600
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For SpaceNut re Posts Repair initiative ...
A Trail Breaker run to 24301 appears to have finished without incident ...
Completed Sequence for ID: 24600
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 300
Starting Number: 24301
Last Number of Run: 24600
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-20-2022 at 11:37:25
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:35
3 Skip Exceptions were recorded.Total time of Processing: 02:54:02
Skip detail: All three had the image in url problem. All three were corrected.
Sequence for ID: 24340
Sequence for ID: 24410
Sequence for ID: 24600
A re-scan to 14000 will start shortly. It is expected to run for 9 hours...
Update at 20:56 local time ... the Re-scan to 14100 ended with a Green Screen...
Completed Sequence for ID: 14100
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 800
Starting Number: 13301
Last Number of Run: 14100
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-20-2022 at 20:55:51
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:39
3 Skip Exceptions were recorded.Total time of Processing: 08:42:05
Update at 22:35 local time ... all three of those skips were for image inside url situations. All are corrected.
Tomorrow's runs will be: 14900 Re-scan and 24900 trail breaker ....
I note that only 10,000 posts separate the two ... catchup will occur in 20 days (if all goes well)
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For SpaceNut ...
Thanks for giving the new topics such helpful support!
This post is about the Posts Repair initiative ...
A Trail Breaker to 24900 finished ... there were several tabs above the address bar, which means the program encountered Internet turbulence.
Completed Sequence for ID: 24900
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 300
Starting Number: 24601
Last Number of Run: 24900
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-21-2022 at 13:22:03
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:34
14 Skip Exceptions were recorded.Total time of Processing: 02:53:22
14 skips !!! Good Grief
That reminds me to ask how your advance cleanup is coming along. WBA is going to start finding your posts shortly, and each of them will cause a skip.
reserved for list of skips
Sequence for ID: 24617
Sequence for ID: 24680
Sequence for ID: 24692
Sequence for ID: 24693
Sequence for ID: 24695
Sequence for ID: 24697
Sequence for ID: 24701
Sequence for ID: 24702
Sequence for ID: 24707
Sequence for ID: 24721Sequence for ID: 24724
Sequence for ID: 24727
Sequence for ID: 24734
Sequence for ID: 24735
These were about half and half img / url and potholes... all corrected
A re-scan to 14900 will start now ... it will run for (about) nine hours.
The re-scan completed without a hiccup ... there were three skips, and all were manually repaired.
3 Skips:
Sequence for ID: 14246 img url
Sequence for ID: 14255 img url
Sequence for ID: 14299 img urlCompleted Sequence for ID: 14900
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 800
Starting Number: 14101
Last Number of Run: 14900
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-21-2022 at 22:41:25
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:39
3 Skip Exceptions were recorded.Total time of Processing: 08:39:34
Total time Program was Active: 08:40:07
Tomorrow's runs will include:
Trail breaker to 25200
Re-scan to 15700
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that last post is in 1-24-2004 but yes I will see where I am at for my post clearing.
The work has been paying off for those reading some of the older topics.
We will need to focus efforts on the recruiting of past members by contacting them with there old emails in hopes of getting some to return.
In that out reach we need to talk about the projects and the respective goals that when we look at the data discussions we have show that we are closer to making mars a reality than what we had in the past.
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found that I am in posts for the month of December 2004.
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For SpaceNut re #2004
Congratulations on your progress! WBA is just starting 2004, and will nibble away at 300 posts per day.
You should (hopefully) be well into 2005 when the Trail Blazer gets to where you are now.
The Re-scan is more than 2/3's through the current run ... it'll finish somewhere around 11 PM local time.
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I like your suggestion we start thinking about how we might reach out to past members.
WBA can do that, if you decide you want to pursue the idea. You can make a list of ID's you want to ping. That list can be turned over to WBA and it can send emails to the ID's in the list, using the email address on file.
We can arrange for the return address to be the NewMarsMember email account.
I'm not expecting much of a response, but there might be a few folks interested in diving back into the fray.
In the past (as nearly as I can tell) there were no projects, although several people did make proposals. Nothing ever came of any of those ideas, as far as I can tell. We are in a new age.
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for SpaceNut re Posts Repair initiative...
This post is intended to report on today's runs:
A Trail Breaker will start shortly, for 300 posts.
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It was fun seeing Mars_B4_Moon back on the scene, with a set of interesting posts.
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The Trail breaker run to 25200 ended with a Green Screen:
Completed Sequence for ID: 25200
Sequence for ID: 25012
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 300
Starting Number: 24901
Last Number of Run: 25200
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-22-2022 at 12:36:44
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:35
1 Skip Exceptions were recorded.Total time of Processing: 02:57:59
Total time Program was Active: 03:05:16
the skip was for img inside url ... corrected ... the re-scan to 15700 will start now.
It will run for (on the order of) 9 hours, so will finish close to 22:00 local time.
Update at 21:44 local time ... The Re-scan just ended ...
Skip item: Sequence for ID: 15672
The skip item was img inside url ... corrected. We appear to be good through 15700.
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For SpaceNut ... this post is a special request...
Question: can a ring be lifted on a pole using magnetic force?
This has surely been addressed in the hundreds of years since discovery of electric current and magnetism induced by electric current.
I'm thinking about the traditional (to me ridiculous) idea of physically "climbing" up a space elevator.
Multiple years of college students have tested their organizational and engineering skills trying to physically grip a rope (or ribbon) suspended from a tower.
The question I have is: Is there a combination of components that would demonstrate elevation of a ring set around a post of some kind?
Update at 12:31 ...
The Trail Breaker just ended, so I'm here to update the post for that.
However, I thought I'd add a suggestion that you drop all references to using people to assemble Large Ship. No funder is going to provide the means to do that since robots (under human control) can do the job. Therefore, please consider changing your write-ups to show teleoperation as the normal procedure. Humans may well be needed to solve problems that the teleoperations teams cannot solve, but such occurrences will be few and far between, and whatever such incidents ** do ** occur will immediately be followed by upgrades to teleoperations capabilities.
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For SpaceNut .... recently you wrote a post about a magnetic shield for Large Ship.
In that post you offered the hypothesis that a stainless steel metal sheet (such as hull of Large Ship) would block magnetic force trying to enter the space behind the sheet.
I offered a suggestion that you create a science experiment for a middle school student, so they could test your hypothesis.
If you are working on that experiment, here's an update:
I have powerful refrigerator magnets ordered online, since the wimpy magnets available in the market are useless.
The powerful magnets are able to attract each other, if placed face to face.
It is almost impossible to get them apart.
I found a stainless steel mixing bowl.
The magnets do NOT attract to the stainless steel mixing bowl.
However, when I placed the two magnets on opposite sides of the mixing bowl, they slammed together with great force.
The lesson that our hypothetical middle school student might learn is that a stainless steel plate may not attract a magnet, but it sure will transmit magnetic force straight through to the other side.
If you write up the experiment, the answer in the back of the book will be: Don't use stainless steel as a magnet shield.
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You are correct and normally we make use of aluminum for that reason where we are layering for filtering those fields and to create reflection of them. Also magnets do not stick to that aluminum as well.
You just found a mass savings for the large ship by material substitution for use on inside construction of the sound wet walls.
I did find a few documents on ring levitation but the issue is the field strength from ring to ring as an acceleration to orbit but how to give power to make the field of a coil might be with beamed power and repulsion of fields the issue is ring slip for the vertical alignment as we make it taller such that a breeze would not topple it.
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For SpaceNut re post #2009
I logged in just now to report on the Re-scan, and found your reply about magnets.
Thanks for taking a first look at the lifting ring question.
your reply seemed to indicate you are expecting that if I repeat the experiment with a sheet of aluminum, the magnets might not "see" each other through the sheet.
That theory seems plausible to me, because I have seen a demonstration of magnetic levitation on an aluminum sheet. The device used rotating permanent magnets to generate counter force (I've forgotten the correct term) in the aluminum sheet.
I'll have to look for a sheet of pure aluminum ... aluminum foil might be on hand ...
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That is not always aluminum but mixed some times same problem with things branded stainless as some are slightly magnetic as well.
A soda can comes to mind...
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Thanks for the reminder that foil may include atoms other than aluminum.
For the purposes of the radiation topic, and specifically the ability of magnetic fields to penetrate the habitat where humans are resident, I think (hope) it is safe to trust the label on the package. I'll study it carefully before performing the magnet experiment.
The experiment is intended to discover if there is ** any ** material that will block extension of magnetic lines from a permanent magnet. Based on the experience with stainless steel reported elsewhere, I am skeptical.
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The rest of this post is for the Post Repair initiative ...
A run to 25500 just finished with a Green Screen.
Completed Sequence for ID: 25500
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 300
Starting Number: 25201
Last Number of Run: 25500
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-23-2022 at 12:39:41
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:35
7 Skip Exceptions were recorded.Total time of Processing: 02:57:20
7 skips ... more than usual ... less than high water mark of 14
reserved for skip detail
Sequence for ID: 25360
Sequence for ID: 25386
Sequence for ID: 25387
Sequence for ID: 25407
Sequence for ID: 25410
Sequence for ID: 25412
Sequence for ID: 25464
All corrected or potholes.
A Re-scan to 16500 will start now.
The run will last (about) nine hours and finish before 22:00 local time.
WBA stopped early due to some mishap with the Internet connection. The debris trail showed that the program got logged out at some pointl. It finished 16106 and failed while attempting 16107.
The run was headed for 16500 so it only finished half the ID's on the schedule.
There were five skips, so i'll check them now.
Check for skips:
Sequence for ID: 15742 img url
Sequence for ID: 15753 img url
Sequence for ID: 15754 img url
Sequence for ID: 15814 img url
Sequence for ID: 15825 img url
Sequence for ID: 15826 img url
I'll restart the Re-scan now ... it will likely run past midnight, so I may not report results until tomorrow.
The second segment of the re-scan to 16500 just ended...
Completed Sequence for ID: 16500
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 394
Starting Number: 16107
Last Number of Run: 16500
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-24-2022 at 00:38:01
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:35Total time of Processing: 03:47:45
Skips were not reported, but I saw two while waiting for the program to finish.
The log contains no indications of a problem. I'll have to leave the question unanswered for now.
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For SpaceNut re Post Repair initiative...
This post is reserved for updates on a Trail Breaker run to 25800, and a re-scan to 17300.
The Trail Breaker reached 25800 with a Green Screen
Completed Sequence for ID: 25800
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 300
Starting Number: 25501
Last Number of Run: 25800
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-24-2022 at 12:43:07
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:35
1 Skip Exceptions were recorded.Total time of Processing: 02:55:49
The skip was: Sequence for ID: 25550 - img inside url issue
A re-scan to 17300 will start shortly ... it will (probably) run for 9 hours and end near 22:00 local time
Update at 21:29 local time ... The rescan over 800 posts ended with a Green Screen
Completed Sequence for ID: 17300
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 800
Starting Number: 16501
Last Number of Run: 17300
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-24-2022 at 21:30:44
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:39
10 Skip Exceptions were recorded.Total time of Processing: 08:36:21
Ten skips ....
Sequence for ID: 16768
Sequence for ID: 16908
Sequence for ID: 16940
Sequence for ID: 16943
Sequence for ID: 16945
Sequence for ID: 16981
Sequence for ID: 16985
Sequence for ID: 17019
Sequence for ID: 17021
Sequence for ID: 17157
The first item above was an img url problem. All the rest were potholes.
The Trail breaker for tomorrow will try for 26100.
the re-scan will try for 18100
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For SpaceNut ... this post will report on today's Post Repair runs ...
the Trail Breaker just finished, with 5 skips
Completed Sequence for ID: 26100
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 300
Starting Number: 25801
Last Number of Run: 26100
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-25-2022 at 10:29:23
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:36
5 Skip Exceptions were recorded.Total time of Processing: 03:00:29
Skip details:
5 skips:
Sequence for ID: 25881
Sequence for ID: 25892
Sequence for ID: 25894
Sequence for ID: 25946
Sequence for ID: 26034
All were img/url issues.
A Re-Scan to 18100 will start now...
For SpaceNut .... I'm confident no one else will ever see this post, and I'm not even sure of you << grin >> Just FYI... GW Johnson is quietly working the problem of Large Ship propulsion and navigation. Yesterday, he sent me an update reporting preliminary results that suggest there may be a solution to a particularly pesky problem. It is too early to be sure, but I am guardedly hopeful a workable solution will fall into place.
While I recognize the time and attention you must devote to the forum in your position as Senior Administrator, I hope you can squeeze out a moment here and there to work on the radiation problem. Quaoar just tossed you a hint of an approach that might work. It will have to be adapted to the unique physical structure of Large Ship (Prime), which (of course) is NOT a toroid. Still, it seems to offer a solution that ** might ** be able to deflect high energy ions, and that is what we need.
There is a temptation to dismiss the problem of radiation protection. I am here to (try to) keep everyone focused upon solving their part of the puzzle.
Update at 19:22 local time ... The re-scan finished with 11 skips reported
Completed Sequence for ID: 18100
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 800
Starting Number: 17301
Last Number of Run: 18100
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-25-2022 at 19:17:00
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:38
11 Skip Exceptions were recorded.Total time of Processing: 08:31:23
Total time Program was Active: 08:31:36
11 skips
01 Sequence for ID: 17804
02 Sequence for ID: 17807
03 Sequence for ID: 17864
04 Sequence for ID: 17896
05 Sequence for ID: 17909
06 Sequence for ID: 17924
07 Sequence for ID: 17929
08 Sequence for ID: 18016
09 Sequence for ID: 18022
10 Sequence for ID: 18023
11 Sequence for ID: 18025
All potholes
Tomorrow we'll try for 26400 in the Trail Breaker, and 18900 for the rescan
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A toroid is a doughnut shaped or ring. Just think that is what I gave you as a robust field design....
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Large Ship (Prime) is not a torus shaped structure ...
How would you adapt Quaoar's suggestion to the Large Ship design of RobertDyck?
Quaoar suggested 20 Tesla might be needed to implement a field to deflect iron nuclei.
What would be required to generate a 20 Tesla field around Large Ship?
What effect would such a field have on equipment and people?
It should be fun for us (NewMars forum members) to take a look at these issues, in the days ahead.
We have until March 12th to come up with something halfway reasonable for RobertDyck to offer to his audience.
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For SpaceNut re Post Repair initiative ...
A Trail Breaker run will try for 26400 this morning...
Completed Sequence for ID: 26400
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 300
Starting Number: 26101
Last Number of Run: 26400
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-26-2022 at 12:38:56
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:35
3 Skip Exceptions were recorded.
Sequence for ID: 26289
Sequence for ID: 26374
Sequence for ID: 26400
All three were img/url problems
A re-scan from 18101-18900 will start now. this run will take (on the order of) 9 hours.
ETA: 22:00 local time
The re-scan to 18900 finished ahead of schedule ...
Completed Sequence for ID: 18915
Starting Sequence for ID: 18916
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 815
Starting Number: 18101
Last Number of Run: 18900
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-26-2022 at 21:38:19
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:39
4 Skip Exceptions were recorded.Total time of Processing: 08:45:15
There were four skips:
Al four were potholes
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For SpaceNut re Posts Repair initiative ...
The Trail Breaker just finished with a green screen ... there were four skips
details to follow - all four skips were for image in url issue
A re-scan over 800 posts will start shortly: We are headed for 19700
Update next day at 6:42 local time ... The scan of 800 posts had no skips.
Completed Sequence for ID: 19700
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 778
Starting Number: 18923
Last Number of Run: 19700
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-28-2022 at 06:38:19
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:39Total time of Processing: 08:20:06
Today's run will try a Trail Breaker to the next 300, and a re-scan over 800 posts.
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For SpaceNut re Posts Repair initiative ...
Today's Trail Breaker will try for 27000 ... we will have only 50,000 posts to go after today's run!
Today's Re-scan will once again cover 800 posts, with catchup likely by March 13th, if all goes well.
I'd like to point out a small surprise .... yesterday's rescan found no defective posts. I don't recall that happening before, but it means there were no potholes in that stretch, and no image inside url problems.
Update at 12:59 local time ...
Completed Sequence for ID: 27000
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 300
Starting Number: 26701
Last Number of Run: 27000
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-28-2022 at 12:54:57
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:34
4 Skip Exceptions were recorded.Total time of Processing: 02:53:33
Sequence for ID: 26794 img url
Sequence for ID: 26806 img url
Sequence for ID: 26829 img url
Sequence for ID: 26988 img url
Today's rescan will attempt to cover posts 19701-20500
Update at 23:08 ... the Re-scan finished a short time ago with a Green Screen
Completed Sequence for ID: 20500
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 800
Starting Number: 19701
Last Number of Run: 20500
Summary for Web Automation Report for 02-28-2022 at 23:06:38
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:42Total time of Processing: 09:25:32
Total time Program was Active: 09:50:29
This was another run with no skips ... no url img problems, and no potholes.
The re-scans should catch up with the Trail Breaker in 13 days.
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good to see some less troublesome runs.
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For SpaceNut re Scientific American pdf recommended by Quaoar.....
Until I receive a release from Scientific American to share the March 2006 issue of the magazine with a larger audience, I'll make it available to specific folks who are working directly on the radiation mitigation issue.
You are the first person I am thinking of ... RobertDyck is overseeing the effort from his large Ship topic, but Radiation is probably a subtopic that he'd be willing to delegate.
To the best of my knowledge you and Dropbox are not on the outs (as is the case with Google) so I can probably open viewing access for your email address. Just let me know. No need to publish your email address. I can see it in your profile.
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For SpaceNut re Posts Repair ... a Trail Breaker is underway. 27300 is the target for today.
The Re-Scan will try for 21300... Catch up is expected by March 13th.
RobertDyck is scheduled to address the North Houston NSS on March 12th.
GW Johnson will drive over to Houston to address the chapter in person on April 9th.
With any luck, kbd512 will be able to attend the live presentation on April 9th.
*** For SpaceNut re failure mode during Post Repair Trail Breaker session ... please take a look at the topic from 2004 that got clobbered during the repair run. I don't think WBA had anything to do with the failure, other than creating the conditions that caused FluxBB (or MySQL) to fail as it did. WBA functions as an ordinary website customer, and cannot change the ID of the poster or the date of the post.
As noted, this is the first time this has occurred, and we now have nearly 50,000 updates under our belts.
Update at 11:35 local time ... The Trail Breaker just ended with a Green Screen. I'll check the log to see if it shows anything unusual at the time that FluxBB/MySQL failed.
Completed Sequence for ID: 27300
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 300
Starting Number: 27001
Last Number of Run: 27300
Summary for Web Automation Report for 03-01-2022 at 11:36:53
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:36
6 Skip Exceptions were recorded.Total time of Processing: 03:01:55
1 Sequence for ID: 27002
2 Sequence for ID: 27024
3 Sequence for ID: 27075
4 Sequence for ID: 27078
5 Sequence for ID: 27215
6 Sequence for ID: 27257
All six skips had the img url problem. Now I'll investigate the failure reported earlier, for four posts
For SpaceNut re explosion of post 27043 ....
The failure clearly occurred as WBA was attempting to deliver the updated post to FluxBB.
Here is the restored post:
http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 043#p27043
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For SpaceNut re post repair initiative...
Due to all the turmoil that occurred during today's Trail Breaker, this post will cover today's Re-scan.
We are going for 21300
Completed Sequence for ID: 21300
Total Command Lines found: 44
Total input Lines in script: 140Number of ID's processed: 800
Starting Number: 20501
Last Number of Run: 21300
Summary for Web Automation Report for 03-01-2022 at 22:02:59
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:00:43Total time of Processing: 09:35:13
Total time Program was Active: 09:37:16
No skips! Nice!
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The data base only showed the first 256 posts when I checked it earlier as I saw you post was fresh and wondered about it. Then when I clicked on the page 2 tab it finally showed when I went back in that it had more posts attached to it.
In the old software the page post counter was on 25 and would only allow 300 posts with in the topic before it would crash way back then.
I also noted that spiderman had an image in his profile that would also interfere with post shifting that I will fix. We have seen this even recently with a few other posts but it seems to be getting less often.
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we have the feature turned of as well as the avatar and saving of them within posts as well since we did not have the servers space for the extra content.
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Thanks for details of your observation!
And! Thanks for taking care of Spiderman's image in his profile ... I did not realize a member could have an image in the profile, but in his case, it makes sense.
The re-scan is moving along smoothly to this point ... it should be done by (about) 9 PM local time, if all goes well.
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