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#1026 2021-11-26 20:40:37

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Re: 2019 NCOV a.k.a. Wuhan's Diseases

Digital currency has what to do with covid? Plus its nonsense that we are passing the disease around on currency.

All files that must be captured to be able to out live a paper copy is digital and that is not new.

So not knowing anything about a new disease or variant is perfectly fine, sounds like an osterage sticking the head in the sand...

So what do we know yet next to nothing other than FFDX5XyXIAQd8Q-?format=jpg&name=small
just how quickly the D variant was displaced by this new one

Wow just the mere mention and Oil prices drop more than 10% as virus variant threatens blow to demand

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#1027 2021-11-27 18:37:56

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Re: 2019 NCOV a.k.a. Wuhan's Diseases

Seems that nations are circling the wagons around closing the borders to travel to specific nations over this new variant that since we are not testing for whom has what flavor of the virus in the US. We could already have it here already since we do not.

So how much trust do we have that Pfizer said Friday that a COVID-19 vaccine could be tweaked within 100 days if the omicron variant proves to be resistant to it

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#1028 2021-11-27 20:08:31

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Re: 2019 NCOV a.k.a. Wuhan's Diseases

You need to educate yourself.

The call for programmable Central Bank Digital Currencies was slipped into the COP 26 climate change declaration. Nothing to do with Covid.  You might wonder why  it was included in the Climate Change nonsense as it  has piss-all to do with carbon emissions (bar a very small contribution). So why do you think it was listed as one of the four main planks of climate change policy? Because it's part of the WEF (Davos) plan!

Once everyone is assigned a Digital ID that can be linked to programmable Central Bank Digital Currency that will mean you can be easily denied access to your own funds for whatever reason. It means the central state can instantly apply rationing to individuals and households for things such as alcohol, driving, meat consumption etc.

Thankfully because of your strong (de facto as well as de jure) federal structure in the USA it is not easy for Washington to introduce these measures. But in Europe and elsewhere these policies are already being implemented. VaxID control of lives is already a reality in several European countries.

VaxID will merge into general Digital ID which will gradually be extended further and further. The contract the UK Government put out for VaxID allows for extension to many other areas including all your personal health records.

If you think this is all about your health you are totally deluded. The Covid pandemic, such as it is, is being used to implement the WEF-Davos agenda. Why all our leaders hang out with the WEF looney tunes is not for me to answer. In case you need reminding it was WEF who told us "In the future you won't own anything but you'll be happy."  By "you" I think we can safely assume they didn't mean Bill Gates, George Soros and Mark Zuckerberg.


SpaceNut wrote:

Digital currency has what to do with covid? Plus its nonsense that we are passing the disease around on currency.

All files that must be captured to be able to out live a paper copy is digital and that is not new.

So not knowing anything about a new disease or variant is perfectly fine, sounds like an osterage sticking the head in the sand...

So what do we know yet next to nothing other than https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFDX5XyXIAQd8Q-?format=jpg&name=small
just how quickly the D variant was displaced by this new one

Wow just the mere mention and Oil prices drop more than 10% as virus variant threatens blow to demand

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#1029 2021-11-27 20:11:46

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Re: 2019 NCOV a.k.a. Wuhan's Diseases

It's not about your health. If it was, CDC and the UK authorities would be permitting use of Ivermectin (just look at how effective it's been in Japan and India).

This latest scariant is just part of the propaganda narrative.



SpaceNut wrote:

Digital currency has what to do with covid? Plus its nonsense that we are passing the disease around on currency.

All files that must be captured to be able to out live a paper copy is digital and that is not new.

So not knowing anything about a new disease or variant is perfectly fine, sounds like an osterage sticking the head in the sand...

So what do we know yet next to nothing other than https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFDX5XyXIAQd8Q-?format=jpg&name=small
just how quickly the D variant was displaced by this new one

Wow just the mere mention and Oil prices drop more than 10% as virus variant threatens blow to demand


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#1030 2021-11-28 05:58:54

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Re: 2019 NCOV a.k.a. Wuhan's Diseases

He seems to be doubling the death numbers under Trump
Biden and Kamala Harris Admin are goinng to hit 50 Million Cases soon

I remember at the end of the Trump Presidency there were all kind of politics thrown around, Left vs Right, Conservative vs Liberal, recount talk, protests and then Trump's Corona numbers went up in December 280,000 Deaths, 305 Thousand Deaths ... I guess you could call this the  lame duck or outgoing Presdiency politician peroid, a heated time

but Biden has the opportunity to do something different when a new Admin gets in, his whole election was about doing things different with Covid

The US will reach 800 Thousand deaths soon

Not to mention all the other issues taking their time up like the Afghanistan terror thing, Gas prices, Ports and Shipping, the Immigration Border issues, the debt Ceiling and cost of Goods or Stagflation


Some new mutations in Europe

Belgium became the first European Union country to announce a case of the variant B.1.1.529
https://www.cityam.com/first-case-in-eu … -the-globe

Lockdown protests

Thousands protest Austria vaccine mandates
https://nz.news.yahoo.com/thousands-pro … 46834.html


The voodoo cures in Hindu India and 'Hydroxychloriquine' still circulate

Brazil Still Debating Dubious Virus Drug Amid 500,000 Deaths
https://www.courthousenews.com/brazil-s … 000-deaths


SpaceNut wrote:

Not about either president



347,050 Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office.

Vaccine doses administered 437,352,000 Fully vaccinated 54.33% Received at least one dose 67.95%

Which means increased vacinations should be if the vaccines was for the current variant reducing numbers even more but for the same period its 50,000 lives saved that would have died.

some new numbers

Biden Covid Death Tracker

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/bide … h-tracker/

360,207 Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office.

Now I think it also should be said BigPharma is making A LOT of money out of all this, even though the vaccines are 'free' for some on a welfare social benefit paper, they are not really free. The lack of good information the past 2 years, it has also fed a lot of Alt-media, Fringe news an Addiction to Conspiracy Theories

and I guess sometimes it makes sense as to why there are Cosnpiracy Theory for example of Course Bill Gates is involved is Pushing his own Vaccine investment but at the same time going through divorce and answering questions asked about Jeffrey Epstein ties
to that pedophile island?

Some vaccines could have been rushed while others better tested and some might be better than others, it seems some vaccines like the British, Russian and some American company might havwe been rushed, there have been reactions and they are becoming less effective.

Sputnik V, is one of the first out in a rush to get a vaccine, an adenovirus viral vector vaccine for COVID-19 developed by the Russian Institute of Epidemiology and Microbiology registered on 11 August 2020 by the Russian Ministry of Health,  April 2021 Turkey, India and Albania approved the use of Sputnik-5 Slovakia bought 2 million doses of the Sputnik V vaccine vaccine for emergency use but later Slovak Prime Minister Igor Matovic resigned on 30 March, due to the political crisis started by the order of the Sputnik V vaccine, there was also political stuff happening in Brazil developers of Sputnik V said that Anvisa 'Agencia Nacional de Vigilancia Sanitária' admitted not testing Sputnik V and that they would sue Anvisa in Brazil for defamation then in June, Brazil's Anvisa approved exceptional imports of Sputnik V, restricting it mainly to healthy adults and limiting it to only 1% of the population

Blood clotting and Bell’s palsy have been reported after some vaccine

Why AstraZeneca-Oxford potential COVID vaccine works better in low dose
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/busin … 52771.html

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

USA Cases 49,077,695
India 34,572,523
Brazil 22,076,863 

Fauci says omicron variant could be ‘red flag,’ urges COVID-19 boosters for all
https://www.ktvu.com/news/fauci-says-om … rs-for-all

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#1031 2021-11-28 12:39:49

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Re: 2019 NCOV a.k.a. Wuhan's Diseases

This could be good news:
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-59450988
Quote:

Omicron symptoms mild so far, says South African doctor who spotted it

It may be in the interest of a virus to provide for itself the maximum amount of "Host".

So, it may be that this variant is on the way to becoming a natural Vaccine.

That is certainly not proven, but if it is very infectious, and mild in typical symptoms, and if it helps to boot up the human immune system(s) to other variants, then it may outcompete, the other variants and drive them into extinction.

I think I have read, that this is what has likely happened in many pandemics.  It just becomes another sort of cold.

But that is quite optimistic.  We can hope.

Done.

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#1033 2021-12-04 18:48:26

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Re: 2019 NCOV a.k.a. Wuhan's Diseases

At least 29 cases of the Omicron COVID-19 variant have been reported across 11 states

So its not until some other nation says that they have found some differences that the US even does the test....

The Omicron variant continues to crop up in vaccinated Americans as concerns about the new strain's vaccine resistance persist.

While a good amount of these patients might be seeing milder symptoms because of their prior vaccinations, even unvaccinated patients have reported less intense sicknesses. In Nebraska, where 5 of the 6 reported patients were not vaccinated, none of them required hospitalization for the infection. The one patient reported in Hawaii had also seen moderate symptoms despite being unvaccinated.

Prior Infection Is Little Defense Against Virus Variant, Scientists Say we knew this even from the other variants which our respective nations have seen thus far.

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#1034 2021-12-08 19:53:28

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Re: 2019 NCOV a.k.a. Wuhan's Diseases

Bad news for my parents mom 81 got positive results today and stepdad 97 he has now been in the hospital for 2 plus days after waiting to go for another 3 or 4 days with flu symptoms. Both had the Pfizer vaccine earlier in the year. Not getting much information for how he is doing yet but soon I hope to find out more. Mom is eligible for the antibody infusion and contacted her own doctor plus is still home for now.

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#1035 2021-12-08 21:04:08

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I hope these illnesses will resolve to regained health for your people Spacenut.

Done.


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#1036 2021-12-09 18:15:48

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Thank you Void.

condition updates

Mom still trying to arrange anti body infusion

Stepdad was being treated for pneumonia while admittance tests results were pending. Today's checks for oxygen sat as well as covid I think came back as they have moved him to covid ward and Remdesivir I think finally given.

As the world nears year three of the coronavirus pandemic, there have been 267.8 million confirmed cases globally and more than 49.5 million confirmed cases in the U.S. Long COVID patients and doctors detail the growing 'mass disabling event' in America

An estimated 14.5 million Americans are struggling with long COVID, according to the American Academy of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation (AAPMR), which uses a model that assumes 30% of all COVID-19 surviving cases result in long COVID.

Elapsed time covid race to number 1

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#1037 2021-12-10 04:37:21

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Doh! More evidence that lockdowns were counterproductive.
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/uk-su … 0-lockdown

How many additional life-years will be lost due to obesity, alcoholism, heart disease, depression, etc, because western governments chose to adopt police-state social controls in the face of a viral outbreak that they didn't understand?  Police state control measures seem to come naturally to the British government.  The more these people talk about democracy, the less freedom we seem to have.


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#1038 2021-12-10 19:49:05

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Not much for updates as Mom is still trying to line up the infusion as only a few sites are doing it like an out patient and they still require a doctor to sign the prescription to have it administered. Her Doctor only works a few days out of the week and that means not getting it soon enough could land her in the ICU of a hospital as well.

Stepdad hospital is hiding behind the hippa crap and even gave me the wrong room telephone number so I am sure he is depressed since they have filtered communications that would cheer him up.

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#1039 2021-12-11 08:52:46

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Two vaccine doses don't stop you catching Omicron
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59615005

Michigan’s ‘deeply concerning’ COVID-19 surge not abating
https://www.uppermichiganssource.com/ap … t-abating/

Man receives up to 10 vaccines in one day
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health … in-one-day

Mortality Rates
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

Breakthrough infections with SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant despite booster dose of mRNA vaccine
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm … id=3981711

India, U.S. account for a quarter of COVID-19 misinformation: study
https://www.ualberta.ca/folio/2021/12/i … study.html

Navy destroyer second-in-command relieved of duty over refusal to take COVID-19 vaccine
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/top-ra … vaccinated


Biden Deaths from Covid

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/bide … h-tracker/

366,470 Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office.


Worldwide numbers

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

USA Cases 49,077,695
India 34,572,523
Brazil 22,076,863 


Death per Million
https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 … habitants/
deaths worldwide per one million

Face masks reduce emotion-recognition accuracy and perceived closeness
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/artic … ne.0249792

The winter Omicron wave is coming — quickly
https://www.axios.com/winter-omicron-wa … 4c52c.html

Federal judge blocks Tennessee's law preventing schools from issuing mask mandates
https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/p … 800549002/

kbd512 wrote:

Our Former Secretary of State, General Colin Powell, fell into that group.  He had severe immune system compromise and was in the process of dying from cancer, but COVID, which his vaccines didn't protect him against (because vaccines are developed to target specific strains of bacteria or viruses), was the straw that broke the camel's back.  Would he have died from those complications anyway, without COVID ever existing?

I think in a ways its a good question and it questions on how these deaths are counted, was he a true Covid death or did he also die of Covid with underlying symptoms of other illness, without the Corona virus it seems he would have lived longer.

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#1040 2021-12-11 13:35:00

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Re: 2019 NCOV a.k.a. Wuhan's Diseases

There are many that limp along just fine for decades upon decade living life as best that they can even with cancer or other compromising medical issues.

Biden's clock for deaths in the year will soon be resetting so we will see if the virus continues to be hell for the US or that we will finally get a cure from big Pharmaceutical or not.

Latest is to claim that its against the Multiple health departments in Missouri have abandoned most or all of their covid-19 tracking and prevention work after a recent court ruling stripped state and local public health agencies of their powers to establish disease prevention measures.

Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services, or DHSS, can’t create and enforce health orders such as mask mandates and quarantine orders—and instructed these institutions to “stop enforcing and publicizing any such orders immediately.” “We encourage you to take immediate action to remove all unconstitutional and illegal orders.”

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#1041 2021-12-12 14:29:26

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More of the stripping of Federal agencies ability to unite the US states in action and deed to fight a common foe. Instead its become ignore law and sue to get the law removed to keep your rights of choice...

The latest variant is spreading faster than the Delta version Omicron Doubles in U.K.; South Africa Hits Record: Virus Update

Of course with that is the push for boosters of any variety but some are also calling on the natural immunity to not need the shots. Of course since we saw that they virus can attack more than one and be the same variant gambling on that to be the only means of protection should still require test proof and the shot at what seems to be every 6 months due to the variants.

So far so good as both parents are still holding there own against the virus...

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#1042 2021-12-16 22:21:44

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Re: 2019 NCOV a.k.a. Wuhan's Diseases

While cases of covid continue to climb in the area the help is coming or here with national guard and others for the surge occurring in the hospitals.

Stepdad is home with oxygen but is still suffering from brain fog, not being able to tell how he is feeling, requiring oxygen due to lung damage from pneumonia, with mom seeming to be getting better with each passing day.

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#1043 2021-12-31 10:54:39

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Re: 2019 NCOV a.k.a. Wuhan's Diseases

To all vaxxies out there - stop deluding yourselves:

https://nationalfile.com/96-germans-omi … ingbuttons


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#1044 2021-12-31 11:37:53

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The vaccines are all first generation for the very first variant of the covid-19 and while its being used off variant its never going to fully prevent the other variants so the data is lacking whom has died under each of the categories as each tells the ability for comparison percentages. as to aiding or not and which one and how long must also be collected as the age of its injection is also a variable in the equation of whom lives and who does not.

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#1045 2021-12-31 11:46:13

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Re: 2019 NCOV a.k.a. Wuhan's Diseases

SpaceNut,

Both of your parents need the Regeneron monoclonal antibodies immediately, if not sooner.  Do not pass go, do not collect $200, do not do anything else until you've done that.

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#1046 2021-12-31 11:54:54

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Mom was slated to receive them but since there are hurtles to get them which even her doctor could not over come she has had to get through the virus at home and is doing much better now.
Stepdad is home and slowly improving from the pneumonia with antibiotics and steroids to aid in the tissue recovery plus oxygen. Not sure what was given in the hospital but will find out.

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#1047 2021-12-31 12:12:30

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SpaceNut,

The Biden administration has actively restricted the availability of monoclonal antibodies, especially to states that did not go to him, for reasons known only to them.  IIRC, New Hampshire went to Biden, so I don't see why those drugs would be restricted there.

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#1048 2021-12-31 12:20:42

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Not many places can give the monoclonal antibodies as out patient and she tried multiple days to arrange the session to get them with many calls to her doctor that is required to write the prescription required for the place to carry out the orders.

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#1049 2022-08-08 02:19:41

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Re: 2019 NCOV a.k.a. Wuhan's Diseases

COVID-19 update: New study claims side effects of vaccines in adolescents are 'mild, self-resolving'

https://www.sbs.com.au/language/english … /ulbm031fq

Extinct Pathogens Ushered The Fall of Ancient Civilizations, Scientists Say

https://www.sciencealert.com/thousands- … vilization

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#1050 2022-10-01 14:04:04

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Re: 2019 NCOV a.k.a. Wuhan's Diseases

When will the US lift the requirement for COVID vaccination for foreigners entering the US? Canada did effective today.

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